Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask what conspiracy theories you actually believe are true?

999 replies

AlternativePerspective · 27/01/2021 19:42

Following on from the thread where OP was looking for conspiracy theories for her kids to look at, I was wondering whether anyone actually believes any of the outlandish conspiracies.

We’ve all read about how people believe that Elvis didn’t die/Paul McCartney did die/the royals are all lizards/the earth is flat. But I’ve never encountered anyone who actually believes any of them, only people who talk about people who (apparently) believe in them.

So, what conspiracies do you actually believe and why?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
7
vekokit877 · 28/01/2021 14:30

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

hansgrueber · 28/01/2021 14:30

@SnowDaysAndFunDays

Hewitt didn't meet Diana until after Harry was born I thought? I think Harry is the spit of Prince Philip
If you compare photos of Harry and Philip at the same age and with beards the resemblance is incredible.
the80sweregreat · 28/01/2021 14:31

I was thinking more of the 5G conspiracies about the virus and that is is ' man made' but sausage roll makes some other interesting points too!

Hammonds · 28/01/2021 14:34

@cordeliae

Freemasons
They are not a conspiracy. It’s pretty well known they exist, I know some one in it! Grin
singingsoprano · 28/01/2021 14:34

@SidekickSally

Oh jeez, the rhesus one is hilarious!

Why can't they find the cause of rh-?

Who says “they” can’t? Who’s “they” anyway?
Plenty of research in to the different forms of rhesus deficiency, the genetics, the molecular basis of this syndrome. Why just pick on this to form a conspiracy? Why not 100s of other genetic mutations or immunological defects that need support for the mother to carry the baby to term or for the baby to survive once born? Are these people a different species too?

I love a good conspiracy but this one is pure bollocks.

100% agree with @SidekickSally. me, my husband and 3 DC are all Rhesus Negative and not an alien among us! (As far as I know)
SeasonFinale · 28/01/2021 14:34

@AlternativePerspective

Following on from the thread where OP was looking for conspiracy theories for her kids to look at, I was wondering whether anyone actually believes any of the outlandish conspiracies.

We’ve all read about how people believe that Elvis didn’t die/Paul McCartney did die/the royals are all lizards/the earth is flat. But I’ve never encountered anyone who actually believes any of them, only people who talk about people who (apparently) believe in them.

So, what conspiracies do you actually believe and why?

None whatsoever because they are by their nature just conspiracy theories.
tormentil · 28/01/2021 14:35

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

E.g. smoking doesn't cause cancer; there is no global warming (Exxon knew about this for a while and hid the evidence as well as funded opposite research); Iran-Contras; and yes, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction by the time it was invaded in 2003.

Also that fossil fuels are renewable. I saw a video some time ago by William Engdahl, where he claimed that oil only actually took about 30 years to be naturally produced and that new supplies are still continually being produced right now. Obviously, vehicles and households fuelled by oil can't be tracked digitally and manipulated or remotely shut down. He's obviously a very controversial figure, but a very intelligent, highly qualified scientist.

He also spoke at length about Codex Alimentarius, whereby the plan is for a very few mega-rich corporations (like Monsanto) to own the rights to the genomes of 'approved' food crops - crops which would be sterile, so you would have to rely on them for new seeds every year. Anybody growing their own 'unapproved' food could eventually be punished/imprisoned/labelled a bio-terrorist for threatening the world's harmonious approved safe food supply. There was also a link with Glypohosate and Roundup (developed by Monsanto), as I kind of recall.

Monsanto makes me want to cry. It's poses such a massive threat on so many levels.
BonnieDundee · 28/01/2021 14:36

Epstein suicide
Princess diana I'm undecided on.
Lockerbie bombing. Wasnt there word that some high level diplomats cancelled their seats on that flight and students grabbed the cancellations? That does bother me a lot. And I'm unsure of the guilt of the man that was convicted of it. If he was definitely guilty, why did they move his family over here and give them accommodation? Why was Kenny McAskill so keen to release him on compassionate grounds if he wasnt as near the end as they said? Interested in others views as maybe these things are standard but a few things dont sound right about it to me.

HalfGirlHalfCake · 28/01/2021 14:37

@Squiffany
@AlternativePerspective
You say you don't believe a plane hit the Pentagon. What is your reasoning for this?

the80sweregreat · 28/01/2021 14:37

My friends husband is a Freemason and she had to help him with his Latin for his inauguration. She said it's just a club for local business owners to network , mostly. Nothing sinister. (Well, nothing she was prepared to say anyway! )

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 28/01/2021 14:43

@OohThatCat

I believe Jesus was a regular dude who had a kid. And that kid had a kid, and so on...and that bloodline is still with us today, somewhere.
No comment Halo
Hammonds · 28/01/2021 14:44

@the80sweregreat

My friends husband is a Freemason and she had to help him with his Latin for his inauguration. She said it's just a club for local business owners to network , mostly. Nothing sinister. (Well, nothing she was prepared to say anyway! )
Probably just local business on his level Wink
WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 28/01/2021 14:47

Sorry, I never expanded on the money thing before (and the thread will be full before long!)

Just the fact that only about 3% of money is actually money as we know it and the rest just exists 'in theory'. it used to be backed by gold reserves, but that has long since fallen by the wayside. Originally, the banks would have sufficient gold ingots in their vaults with which to repay their depositors on demand (hence the promissory declaration written on bank notes), but they came to realise that only a small percentage of people were ever likely to request their deposits back at any one time, so they could 'back' several ingots' worth of gold with just one ingot. Why would a run on the banks cause such a catastrophe, if they held enough reserves to repay all investors at all times, as most people assume is standard?

Now, we've come to a point where money is just an abstract concept based on confidence. For the banks and governments, that is - we ordinary folk get no part in that for our own benefit. If you go to a bank and borrow £100,000, you are not borrowing from the funds held on behalf of their investors, but (and this is the bit that is so hard to comprehend), that £100,000 first comes into existence, having been created as a direct result of your application to borrow it. The bank is then allowed to register the rights to a debt in its favour, and you then have to repay it to them with real cash and real tangible work. If you default, they can take your house from you in exchange for having lent you something that they invented on the spot.

Following the Federal Reserve Act in 1913 (shortly after the tragic deaths on the Titanic of a few powerful people lobbying against it), the Fed was established as a private company, which then lends money to the government at a rate of interest, for the government to put into circulation. The government doesn't have the power to invent money in its own right - it must borrow it from the banks. People scratch their heads at why PFIs even exist, but if you understand the crazy way in which it works, the government is actually just co-investing and sharing the risk - and saving themselves some interest.

I think they may have changed it now (at least in name, whether in actuality or not), but the Bank of England used to be a private company.

If I understand it correctly, 'The Crown' is also a private enterprise and technically separate from the government and the royal family.

Also, the City of London (like Washington DC) is technically a separate country and not actually officially a part of the UK. The Queen and Parliament doesn't officially have any jurisdiction over it.

If anybody is interested in looking into it at all, search online for 'money as debt' for a very enlightening start.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 28/01/2021 14:54

Whilst there is merit on a lot of what you’ve said - I think pointing those out is a tad too much for MN! I hope you’ve got your hard hat!

On my way to my Anderson shelter as I type Grin

As for the 5G conspiracies, there's actually a counter-conspiracy that these crazy-sounding ones were deliberately put out there in the open so as to bring overall ridicule on ALL people suspecting ANY conspiracy over the origins and response to COVID. That said, there are a number of official bodies (in Europe particularly, I believe) who have strictly banned wifi technology from anywhere near school classrooms on safety grounds, relating to the findings of a lot of respected and acknowledged scientific research.

Dickorydockwhatthe · 28/01/2021 14:56

Just goggled photos of Martin kemp daughter and Andrew Ridgely and I'm shocked at the likeness!!!

Devlesko · 28/01/2021 14:59

@ImAncient

James Hewitt is not Prince Harry’s father. He’s the image of Prince Philip for starters!
He's the image of James Hewitt, down to hair colour, it's obvious. As for nt meeting until after he was born, some people will believe anything they are told, irrespective of whether JH is the daddy or not.
SnowDaysAndFunDays · 28/01/2021 15:04

The Spencer's have the same hair colour though.

SushiSoozie · 28/01/2021 15:04

Also, the City of London (like Washington DC) is technically a separate country and not actually officially a part of the UK. The Queen and Parliament doesn't officially have any jurisdiction over it

That's not true.

ChiefClerkDrumknott · 28/01/2021 15:05

@CaveMum I think that’s probably the most likely explanation re JFK. LHO was there and was a good shot, so got the first one. If you watch the footage, when that happens an agent runs up behind and jumps on the boot of the car, which is when the second shot hits. I’m more inclined to put things down to human cock up than some great, complicated plan.

The conspiracy comes after the assassination, which is a cover up of how badly the agents fucked up. It’s well known that they were out on the piss the night before and had an exhausting schedule.

There is some fuckery regarding the life of LHO that is intriguing, however I think he was there to kill JFK and the agent just got the kill shot.

Jack Ruby is the one who really fascinates me though; he didn’t kill LHO out of some sort of patriotic devotion to the President or to redeem the reputation of Dallas. That is the real mystery to me.

davidsSchitt · 28/01/2021 15:08

@Devlesko he's also the image of his grandad Prince Philip. Work that one out

covetingthepreciousthings · 28/01/2021 15:08

Just goggled photos of Martin kemp daughter and Andrew Ridgely and I'm shocked at the likeness!!!

Have you looked at pictures next to her mum though, I think she looks just like her mum.

davidsSchitt · 28/01/2021 15:09

"Also, the City of London (like Washington DC) is technically a separate country and not actually officially a part of the UK. The Queen and Parliament doesn't officially have any jurisdiction over it."

Worlds gone fucking mad 😂😂

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 28/01/2021 15:10

@Devlesko
Look at the old photo of Prince Philip including his hair/ beard colour. Google Diana’s sisters and look at their colouring.

the80sweregreat · 28/01/2021 15:11

There are so many mysterious about. Missing people ones are also fascinating and the myths tend to grow up around them.
Sometimes it is hard to know what or who to believe at times.

covetingthepreciousthings · 28/01/2021 15:12

Can we have a follow up thread when this is full?! Grin