To ask what conspiracy theories you actually believe are true?

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Following on from the thread where OP was looking for conspiracy theories for her kids to look at, I was wondering whether anyone actually believes any of the outlandish conspiracies.

We’ve all read about how people believe that Elvis didn’t die/Paul McCartney did die/the royals are all lizards/the earth is flat. But I’ve never encountered anyone who actually believes any of them, only people who talk about people who (apparently) believe in them.

So, what conspiracies do you actually believe and why?

But Hewitt is Harry’s dad. Does anyone not think that?! They are identical!!!

For Brittany Murphy, they did release her autopsy report recently and I can’t remember all the details, but basically her death was preventable. It’s so sad.

I’m always wary of conspiracy theories, as they can take on a life of their own and have very real consequences. At university I did a course on medieval anti Semitism, and so many of the false stories that originated then are still around today, or have echoes in other conspiracies. For eg the blood libel - that Jews kidnapped Christian children to kill and make matzah out of, has echoes now in the QAnon theories about child trafficking and a global elite conspiracy

Hewitt didn't meet Diana until after Harry was born I thought? I think Harry is the spit of Prince Philip

E.g. smoking doesn't cause cancer; there is no global warming (Exxon knew about this for a while and hid the evidence as well as funded opposite research); Iran-Contras; and yes, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction by the time it was invaded in 2003.

Also that fossil fuels are renewable. I saw a video some time ago by William Engdahl, where he claimed that oil only actually took about 30 years to be naturally produced and that new supplies are still continually being produced right now. Obviously, vehicles and households fuelled by oil can't be tracked digitally and manipulated or remotely shut down. He's obviously a very controversial figure, but a very intelligent, highly qualified scientist.

He also spoke at length about Codex Alimentarius, whereby the plan is for a very few mega-rich corporations (like Monsanto) to own the rights to the genomes of 'approved' food crops - crops which would be sterile, so you would have to rely on them for new seeds every year. Anybody growing their own 'unapproved' food could eventually be punished/imprisoned/labelled a bio-terrorist for threatening the world's harmonious approved safe food supply. There was also a link with Glypohosate and Roundup (developed by Monsanto), as I kind of recall.

@Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow

But Hewitt is Harry’s dad. Does anyone not think that?! They are identical!!!

James Hewitt and Princess Diana met at a party in 1986, when Harry was two years old!

@Linnet

I am rh neg and I didn’t get anti D as my husband is also rh neg as are our two children.

Wondering if I should be worried about aliens though 🤔

You didn't get anti-D because your 2 children are RhD neg. Cord blood is tested after delivery, to see whether any foetal cells are circulating in the maternal blood, AND the foetal blood is tested to see whether or not it is RhD neg or pos. If the baby is RhD neg, then no anti-D is required. If the baby is RhD pos, AND there are foetal cells in the maternal blood, then the anti-D dose may have to be increased, depending on the count of foetal cells.

The blood labs pay no attention to what the husband's blood group is because a) he might not be the actual father (Happens) and b) even if he is RhD pos, he might be heterozygous (RhD/d) and pass on the d (RhD neg, or the absence of RhD) to any child, which would make them RhD neg too.

The concept of RhD neg people being a different species is absolutely laughable.

RhD is only ONE of many antigens in the so-called "Rhesus" system - there are currently at least 49 known antigens in this highly important system, which has now been renamed as the Rh system. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK2269/

It is also not the only antigen to cause haemolytic disease of the newborn - an ABO blood group incompatibility between the mother and foetus can do that too, IF the mother has, for some reason, produced IgG antibodies to the opposing blood antigen (group O will have antibodies to A and B, group A will have antibodies to group B and group B will have antibodies to group A.) This just happens without exposure to the antigen, BUT is usually the pentamer (5-unit) antibody, IgM, which cannot cross the placenta. A monomer (single unit), IgG is a secondary antibody and CAN cross the placenta.

Other members of the Rh system can also cause HDN if there is an incompatibility.
First babies CAN have HDN, if the mother has previously been exposed to blood antigens she does not have herself, either by transfusion or if there is prolonged exposure to foetal blood cells during her pregnancy - but yes, it was usually the 2nd pregnancy that would suffer from the antibodies made after the first pregnancy. Foetal blood is not supposed to enter the maternal bloodstream, but it sometimes does.

Anti-D is one of the strongest antibodies that we make, of the blood group antibodies - but it's not the only one that can cause problems.
Another Rh antibody that can cause HDN is anti-c, or anti-little c. Anti-c is mostly found in RhD positive people, as most RhD negative people have c in their antigen profile. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3710558/
A non-Rh antibody that can cause HDN is anti-Kell.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK2270/

Now you all have far more info than you ever needed on how some blood group antigens and antibodies work - basic genetic diversity.

One more for the conspiracy theorists - there is actually a blood group out there that is so rare, only a handful of related people have it - the H group. This is an absence of the glycoprotein that supports the AB antigens so that a person with group H cannot even receive group O blood, as they will have antibodies to that too. Oddly enough, they're not aliens or a "different species of human" either - they just have a genetic deletion that means they don't make that particular glycoprotein on their red blood cells.

James Hewitt is not Prince Harry’s father. He’s the image of Prince Philip for starters!

@the80sweregreat

The recent virus health emergency has thrown up many conspiracies which nobody has mentioned on here yet.

Such as?

To be honest, I don't think the Hewitt/Harry one has any real consequence to any of us as individuals, interesting though it is. If it were true, it would only break their own rules of succession, which is a side issue to the power that they have independently built up over centuries. It's not like they'd admit it or release the results of any DNA tests to us plebs; even if they did, how could we overthrow them on that single basis? Plus, Harry is almost certainly never going to become king anyway.

James Hewitt and Princess Diana met at a party in 1986, when Harry was two years old!

Wouldn't be the first time that somebody publicly 'first met' a person they already knew before, if that would provide a cover story. How often do lots of us feign the expected surprised reaction at hearing personal news that people tell us when we already knew it before, but felt it not expedient to mention that we knew?

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

E.g. smoking doesn't cause cancer; there is no global warming (Exxon knew about this for a while and hid the evidence as well as funded opposite research); Iran-Contras; and yes, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction by the time it was invaded in 2003.

Also that fossil fuels are renewable. I saw a video some time ago by William Engdahl, where he claimed that oil only actually took about 30 years to be naturally produced and that new supplies are still continually being produced right now. Obviously, vehicles and households fuelled by oil can't be tracked digitally and manipulated or remotely shut down. He's obviously a very controversial figure, but a very intelligent, highly qualified scientist.

He also spoke at length about Codex Alimentarius, whereby the plan is for a very few mega-rich corporations (like Monsanto) to own the rights to the genomes of 'approved' food crops - crops which would be sterile, so you would have to rely on them for new seeds every year. Anybody growing their own 'unapproved' food could eventually be punished/imprisoned/labelled a bio-terrorist for threatening the world's harmonious approved safe food supply. There was also a link with Glypohosate and Roundup (developed by Monsanto), as I kind of recall.

Gosh that’s scary!

@MistressoftheDarkSide

I'm also B Negative as was my Mum. Can of entertaining worms indeed. But I truly can't wear a wind up watch without it stopping which us allegedly to do with it. Not been abducted by aliens though.... although would I ever know

That’s interesting @MistressoftheDarkSide my husband is O neg and he has had trouble with watches in the past.

@DigitalGhost

I don't believe a plane hit the pentagon.

Neither do I.

@Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow

But Hewitt is Harry’s dad. Does anyone not think that?! They are identical!!!

Harry is the spitting image of a younger Prince Philip. The Paris Match photo from the 50’s is clear on the family resemblance.

Prince Harry doesn't look like Hewitt at all other than red hair, there is nothing a like at whatsoever. There's a photo of the Duke of Edinburgh on the cover of Paris Match magazine, I think it was from the1960s, he is the IMAGE of Harry, go and look and you'll see.

@Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow

But Hewitt is Harry’s dad. Does anyone not think that?! They are identical!!!

He’s far far far more like Prince Philip than James Hewitt

Such as?

The fact that people are being fined and threatened with prosecution/imprisonment for something like meeting with friends for a drink or driving three miles to exercise on a local beach?

That innocent people are being put into solitary confinement (at their own expense) for two weeks for the crime of travelling internationally on an aeroplane?

People who might possibly have a virus that is harmless to something like 99.5%+ of people who actually contract it.

And the fact that anybody who does test positive and dies within four weeks of any cause is recorded as a COVID death. Even the already very elderly and very ill people who were, sadly, not long for this world anyway. You could have been young and healthy, tested positive, fallen off a cliff or been run over by a lorry 25 days later, and you would be a COVID death. I don't know the stats, but a number of people have cited the normal rates of deaths from other causes falling dramatically. Yes, the deaths are terrible - but it's not like a huge number of people in a population of 65m don't already die naturally every day anyway.

Cross posted PP!

@plebsticle read the declassified FBI files on Hitler. It basically confirms this 😵‍💫

But Hewitt is Harry’s dad. Does anyone not think that?! They are identical!!!

They both have reddish hair. That's it. Anyone who actually believes that such a prominent member of the Royal FAmily at that time could have managed to have a baby that was not her first in line to the throne husbands is completely insane!

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

Such as?

The fact that people are being fined and threatened with prosecution/imprisonment for something like meeting with friends for a drink or driving three miles to exercise on a local beach?

That innocent people are being put into solitary confinement (at their own expense) for two weeks for the crime of travelling internationally on an aeroplane?

People who might possibly have a virus that is harmless to something like 99.5%+ of people who actually contract it.

And the fact that anybody who does test positive and dies within four weeks of any cause is recorded as a COVID death. Even the already very elderly and very ill people who were, sadly, not long for this world anyway. You could have been young and healthy, tested positive, fallen off a cliff or been run over by a lorry 25 days later, and you would be a COVID death. I don't know the stats, but a number of people have cited the normal rates of deaths from other causes falling dramatically. Yes, the deaths are terrible - but it's not like a huge number of people in a population of 65m don't already die naturally every day anyway.

Whilst there is merit on a lot of what you’ve said - I think pointing those out is a tad too much for MN! I hope you’ve got your hard hat!

Freemasons

Oh wow Harry does look like Prince Philip 😲

@CaveMum

Hewitt claims he first met Diana long after Harry was born but who knows if this is true but I have never believed Hewitt is Harry's father by looking for a resemblance. Replace Harry's ginger hair with dark locks and I doubt anyone would have questioned who his dad is. Anyone knows you can have a ginger haired child despite both parents being blonde or dark haired.

@ThumbWitchesAbroad i didn’t get anti d the first time because they tested dd and told us she was O neg same as me and also dh so there was no need.

When I got pregnant the second time I was told about the anti d and I told my dr at the hospital that my dh was also O neg so wouldn’t need the anti d. Since we knew that they wouldn’t take our word for it, for the reasons you mentioned above, we had a blood test done to prove that he was O neg and therefore I didn’t get the anti d.

All 4 of us are O negative.