To not allow DH into our house for 10 days?

[MrsJE]

Opinions needed please.
DH is at work this evening and came across a man who was slumped on the floor and not responding when asked if he was OK.
DH phoned 999 and they asked him to do chest compressions on the person as his breathing was shallow, which DH did until the ambulance arrived.
DH recognises the man as one of the local homeless that sleep near his work and it appears he may have taken spice.
Now, my dilemma is I'm 50yrs old and have spent half my life in and out of hospital with asthma attacks. We still have two children living at home and we are also raising our grandson who has additional needs. DH himself is 52 and has a blood disorder that he is on long term medication for. We have tried to be careful during this pandemic, we're not shielding as DH works in an office (either alone or with one other person at a time) and grandson attends school of a morning as he is classed as vulnerable but, we keep to the rules and do as much as possible to minimise our risk.
I now feel DH should stay in our eldest sons spare room for 10 days but DH thinks I'm being ridiculous.
Am I being unreasonable?

Wow some of these replies
DH finished his night shift and went to sleep in our eldest sons spare bedroom... he only lives 2 minutes away so DH hasn't had to go out of his way.
DH is fine and has now said he is happy to isolate but feels bad for me as I will have our grandson (he has additional needs) to cope with on my own.
Apparently a mask was put on the collapsed man by a lady who was there too, my husband had a mask and gloves on and did chest compressions for approximately five minutes when someone else took over for five minutes at which point medical help arrived.
I'm still not sure what to do to be honest.

Collapsed man, shallow breathing, needed chest compressions and someone put a fucking mask on him 🙄

If we had a spare room here I would have no issue with him isolating in it but we don't.

You would rather take your chances ? No words for this .....

Dh is at work every day. I have had four dc’s coming and going from school as well as going to supermarket/shops etc. My dsis works on a covid ward since last March and hasn’t caught it. Everyone I know who’s tested positive have been absolutely fine. We very likely had the virus in October. I know families where one adult caught it and everyone else was fine - despite them not isolating from their family. We are young and healthy.

Would I send my dh out of the house for 10 days because he came into contact with a random guy who probably doesn’t have covid? Erm...no.

I do have a word for dementors like you on these threads - CUCKOO!! (teamed with finger winding movement at temple)

Actually I guess I could sleep on the sofa and DH isolate in our bedroom?!

@smoothchange this was done in the advise of the 999 call handler.

@smoothchange

Collapsed man, shallow breathing, needed chest compressions and someone put a fucking mask on him 🙄

That’s what I thought!

[quote MrsJE]@smoothchange this was done in the advise of the 999 call handler.[/quote]

Ridiculous. Absolutely fucking ridiculous

@MrsJE

Actually I guess I could sleep on the sofa and DH isolate in our bedroom?!

Quite. I'm not sure why it took you so long. That's what the majority of people with no spare room and an isolating family member have done.

@BeautifulStar sadly I have had the opposite experience, my granddaughter came into contact with a positive case at nursery on a Thursday, by the Tuesday of the following week my daughter, her partner and both children all were very poorly and tested positive. The children recovered relatively quickly but 3 weeks on my daughter and her partner are still struggling with coughs and breathlessness.

You don't give chest compressions if the person is breathing. If they're unconscious and breathing you put them in recovery position.

@smoothchange

Collapsed man, shallow breathing, needed chest compressions and someone put a fucking mask on him 🙄

This would have been the advice from 999 operators. The Resuscitation Council has the latest guidelines for performing CPR during the COVID 19 pandemic here

www.resus.org.uk/covid-19-resources/covid-19-resources-general-public/resuscitation-council-uk-statement-covid-19

It’s important to remember that when giving first aid you should not put yourself at risk of harm. The very first step any first responder is meant to perform is to check for hazards. This usually means immediate danger but in times of a pandemic this includes protecting yourself from illness. It’s therefore sensible to cover the nose and mouth of the injured person.

'I tried to save someone's life last night by performing CPR. I'm pretty traumatised by watching someone die. Now my husband has said I might have caught covid from him (even though there was no evidence he had it), and has locked me out of the house'.

I thought the jury was out as to whether chest compression is an aerosol producing www.rcpjournals.org/content/clinmedicine/20/5/e154

Anyway as others have said you should contact the hospital to ask if the man is positive. As both were wearing a mask, I think it is less worrying tbh. It sounds as if you don’t want any risk so isolating in your home or your ds’s sounds like a solution.

I think it’s hard for people, who are well to understand how scared you are op. But your grandson also poses a big risk imo.

@Spidey66

You don't give chest compressions if the person is breathing. If they're unconscious and breathing you put them in recovery position.

Please don’t give incorrect resuscitation advice.

It’s important to assess breathing and if the breathing is shallow, ineffective or noisy you absolutely do give chest compressions. 999 operators will help you to assess when chest compressions are required.

More people need to take basic first aid courses.

Everyone I know who’s tested positive have been absolutely fine. We very likely had the virus in October. I know families where one adult caught it and everyone else was fine - despite them not isolating from their family. We are young and healthy.

Well that's great.

My friend is 40, has two boys under 6 and is currently on a ventilator having been in ICU since early December. You've just all been lucky. FFS.

This isn't necessarily a traumatic experience for the OPs husband. Some people can get on with their day after an event like this

@smoothchange

Collapsed man, shallow breathing, needed chest compressions and someone put a fucking mask on him 🙄

That is the current advice. It doesn’t stop all the aerosol but will certainly help.

@Christinaismyperson

Thanks. I am slightly stunned at that tbh. I do understand the not putting yourself at risk part though and it makes sense. My immediate thought would always have been for the man who was shallow breathing and really needed as clear an airway as possible.

It's an interesting point though, particularly when we see who many people in the supermarkets who can't wear a mask!

@smoothchange

No worries in a case of respiratory arrest the most important thing is the chest compressions to keep what oxygen there is in the blood circulating. The covering of the face with a mask is going to make little impact in such extreme circumstances. It’s literally about keeping the blood circulating until an ambulance arrives with the necessary medical equipment.

Am I missing something? The homeless person will be tested for Covid on being admitted to hospital. If he showed as positive your husband would I presume be notified. If you're so worried about it why don't you contact the police/hospital and check up on that, instead of jumping to conclusions?

You don't give chest compressions if the person is breathing. If they're unconscious and breathing you put them in recovery position. you are talking bollocks. How do I know? I have had chest compressions and when they started I was still conscious and breathing. The compressions were given to try to prevent my heart from arresting, unfortunately it still did, and I now retain the memory of a Dr pushing down on my chest and me begging him to stop before I blacked out.

As for the OP, even if it was prudent for the DH to self isolate, this should be done at home. Interesting how she’s perfectly happy for him to put someone else at risk by going somewhere else, but doesn’t want to be put at risk herself.

If any of you caught COVID leaving home isn’t an option so how do you suppose you’ll deal with that? You won’t be able to throw a covid sufferer out and you won’t be able to leave either...

@MrsJE. Has your DH phoned the hospital to register as a contact if the bloke turns out to be +ve?

He's happy to stay at your sons, if your son is happy, then do that.

Yes you'll have the younger one to sort out, but 🤷🏻‍♀️

Typical MN.
Armchair medics.
No clue about current resuscitation advice.
No clue about the level of risk.
Just content to sit behind a screen, spew bile and add to one of the most ridiculous pile ons I’ve seen.
Not to mention the twisting of what the OP has said.

Honestly OP, people love to be arseholes on here so I would take it all with a pinch of salt.

If your husband is happy to isolate then that's what I'd do.

Imagine how he'd feel if he did give you Covid and you ended up really ill or worse. Given your health conditions it's not worth the risk surely.