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Moving on.... it's Biden/Harris Administration time (#124)

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Roussette · 24/01/2021 14:17

Previous thread...

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lionheart · 25/01/2021 02:17

Damn.

apnews.com/article/arkansas-tim-griffin-mike-huckabee-c5bed8ebe17d9954ca625a94457807e3?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

'LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Former White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders is running for Arkansas governor, a source told The Associated Press on Sunday night.

Sanders, who left the White House in 2019 to return to her home state, planned to announce her bid on Monday, a senior campaign official told the AP on condition of anonymity. The campaign official spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. A formal announcement is expected Monday.'

Sinful8 · 25/01/2021 04:14

"equity on Tuesday, coupled with a push to eliminate private prisons" - ahhhh so that's how they're gonna fund this term

prettybird · 25/01/2021 08:55

Acrossthepond55 saying that she still couldn't quite believe the good news that Biden was now in the White House reminded me of this video that a friend sent me yesterday.....

https://www.tiktok.com/@bigbaddab/video/69173114749017981499*

lionheart · 25/01/2021 09:46

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/24/donald-trump-impeachment-trial-senate-republican-party-romney-rubio

'Republican divisions over Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial came into clearer focus on Sunday, as the former president spent his first weekend out of office plotting revenge against those he says betrayed him.'

DGRossetti · 25/01/2021 10:43

'Republican divisions over Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial came into clearer focus on Sunday, as the former president spent his first weekend out of office plotting revenge against those he says betrayed him.'

What you going to do ? Bleed on me ?

derxa · 25/01/2021 10:45

@pointythings

Crankley this has been discussed and it isn't that simple. It will wend its way through the legal system and some things will change while others won't. TERF style catastrophising about this doesn't help anyone.
Much more of this ahead www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/3/cece-telfer-franklin-pierce-transgender-hurdler-wi/
merrymouse · 25/01/2021 10:47

She believes Trump's farewell message ....contained a hidden meaning about his return

That sounds like somebody who believes in conspiracy theories.

I think part of the problem is that people actively avoid the truth when it is either boring or uncomfortable. I'm not sure whether we are in a much better position in the UK, given that plenty of people would rather believe that hospitals are only pretending to be under pressure.

Perhaps, America is in a worse position because so many people are already open to believing in things like the Rapture? Also, I would guess that the geography and history of the US means that a greater proportion of people live in an environment where they don't meet people who are unlike themselves.

Lweji · 25/01/2021 10:54

Biden's first day scandals.

  1. Condemned white supremacy
Roussette · 25/01/2021 10:57

Interesting article...

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/24/donald-trump-richard-nixon-elizabeth-drew-washington-post

Asking if Donald Trump can rehabilitate himself in US public life as did a disgraced president before him, legendary Washington reporter Elizabeth Drew was not optimistic.

For all their similarities,” she wrote, “Nixon and Trump clearly are very different men. For one thing, Nixon was smart.”

“Donald Trump and Richard Nixon both left Washington in helicopters and ignominy,” she wrote, “awash in financial problems and their customary self-pity.

“Both were above-average paranoiacs who felt (with some justification) that the elites looked down on them and that enemies everywhere sought to undermine them; they despised the press, exploited racism for political purposes and used inept outside agents (the “plumbers,” Rudy Giuliani) to carry out their more nefarious plots.

“Neither was inclined to let aides rein them in. Both faced impeachment for trying to manipulate the opposition party’s nomination contest. Both degraded the presidency. Both came unglued at the end.

“But then, astonishingly, Nixon rehabilitated himself … [his] post-presidency was a quest to make himself respectable again and it worked … through wit, grit, wiliness and determination he wrought one of the greatest resurrections in American politics.

“If he could do it, can Trump?”

Her short answer? No.

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DGRossetti · 25/01/2021 11:21

Nixon - for all his faults - did see and enable the need to get closer to China (UK folk might remember Ted Heath doing the same and getting 2 pandas as a gift - Chi-Chi and Cha-Cha if memory serves). And that is a legacy that has shaped the modern US. So Nixons treachery (and he was) can be forgotten.

In fact it has been.

Trump has nothing like that. Just the treachery.

PerkingFaintly · 25/01/2021 11:52

Across I've just now watched the Jon Bon Jovi clip from the inauguration. Starts in the pre-dawn...

merrymouse · 25/01/2021 11:53

The other difference is that Nixon was a Republican.

Ironically, Trump really is a 'RINO'. He couldn't care less about any of the beliefs that underpin Republicanism.

Roussette · 25/01/2021 12:03

Love that clip thank you Perking. Have a soft spot for Jon... he's been married to his wife for a squillion years, he's just a tad too short for me Grin
We do have stuff in common though, he abhors Trumpy as much as I do Grin

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Coquohvan · 25/01/2021 12:10

Happy Burns Night to all our Scottish friends.

Slàinte mhath 🥃
www.facebook.com/watch/?v=264708318334568

lionheart · 25/01/2021 12:10

Lovely video. Smile

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/01/2021 12:24

Ted Heath's 1974 pandas were called Chia-Chia and Ching-Ching; Chi-Chi was a later panda, I think. Nixon got given a couple of pandas first, in 1972: Ling-Ling and Hsing-Hsing. They were so popular that Heath wanted some too, and asked.

DGRossetti · 25/01/2021 13:13

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Ted Heath's 1974 pandas were called Chia-Chia and Ching-Ching; Chi-Chi was a later panda, I think. Nixon got given a couple of pandas first, in 1972: Ling-Ling and Hsing-Hsing. They were so popular that Heath wanted some too, and asked.
Ah well, I was at primary school. I remember us talking about it in "topic". Along with the new 50p coin ...
derxa · 25/01/2021 13:30

[quote Coquohvan]Happy Burns Night to all our Scottish friends.

Slàinte mhath 🥃
www.facebook.com/watch/?v=264708318334568[/quote]
Cheers Smile

Shrillharridan · 25/01/2021 13:46

Slainte

Thymeout · 25/01/2021 13:50

@PerkingFaintly
Fox calling Arizona, first of the networks, for Biden, was a bit of a turning point, I think. Apparently, Trump rang Murdoch to try to get him to retract. No joy. Tho' the analyst who made the call has now been sacked.

@Merrymouse
Yes, re conspiracy theories. Lauren thinks Kamala is a satanist because when she took the oath she held her purse between her hand and the Bible, wasn't actually touching the cover. I think it's the disconnect between a substitute teacher and behavioural therapist and craziness that struck Baxter. I know the feeling. I shared a bay in hospital with someone who appeared perfectly normal, I might have chatted to her in the supermarket queue. No indication at all that she believed in the Iron Castle, everything down to polarities, and it was 5G that had made her sick.

Yes. Big Country. Space to go to more extreme extremes.

Nixon v Trump. Nixon was brought up as a Quaker. If Trump had a religion, it would be the polar opposite. For a start, he'd be the one sitting on the golden throne.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/01/2021 14:03

Lauren thinks Kamala is a satanist because when she took the oath she held her purse between her hand and the Bible, wasn't actually touching the cover.

This is where the craziness starts, isn't it? You can clearly see that she has her hand resting on TWO Bibles, one of which has a zipped cover. So according to the nut jobs, shouldn't that make her TWICE as much the 'legal' VP than if she had taken it with one Bible?

Not sure about now, but those zip cover Bibles were 'quite the thing' when I was younger. My parents gave me a white one with my name embossed on it for my 10th birthday and I was the coolest of the cool at Sunday School.

www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-harris-bible-not-purse-idUSKBN29R1U6

DuncinToffee · 25/01/2021 14:12

More trouble for Rudy

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman

Here's the defamation lawsuit that Dominion Voting Systems filed this morning against Rudy Giuliani: assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2046…

"...Giuliani launched a viral disinformation campaign about Dominion that reached millions of people and caused enormous harm to Dominion"

DuncinToffee · 25/01/2021 14:13

Clicky link to documents
assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20463213/1-25-21-dominion-v-giuliani-complaint.pdf

PerkingFaintly · 25/01/2021 14:15

Apparently, Trump rang Murdoch to try to get him to retract.

Shock Could you point me at a source for that? I'd be really interested.

I mean, the fact Trump even thought making that phonecall would work... Shock

I suppose given Trump also claimed that Pence could refuse to certify the electoral college votes, the phonecall might be more an indicator of Trump's detachment from reality, than of Murdoch's willingness to dictate editorial decisions. Except that Murdoch historically has shown the will to mess with editors.

It was painful watching Times editor James Harding at the Leveson Enquiry realise that what he'd thought of as his independent, cleverly obtained, "special access" interview of Cameron was actually him being set up by senior management to be Cameron's free PR agent. Murdoch got rid of Harding not long after.

(Harding's not the only one to be blinded by the special access. There's been much more sustained blurring of the line between journalism and mouthpiece by Laura Kuenssberg for Johnson, and Maggie Haberman for Trump: both I'm sure think of themselves as serious journalists with integrity and independence... but nonetheless get sucked in.)

pointythings · 25/01/2021 14:15

Personally I think the US view that you have to be demonstrably a Christian to get anywhere in politics is nuts. Especially for a country that allegedly has separation of church and state. But then again much of the world is like that and I will probably not see the day when religion becomes something that lives in the private domain of each individual and is deservedly irrelevant outside it.