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Not to tell siblings about mothers death?

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SunsetSenora · 23/01/2021 19:34

I am one of 4 children, a lot younger than my siblings. My parents were 18 when they married, each desperate to escape a hated mother, and it did not make for a happy family - all of the kids have been estranged from the family at some point. As an adult I worked through a lot of stuff and reconciled with my mother, spending the last 10 years living near her, and helping nurse her for the last few. My brother lives in the same town but cut off contact with my mum about 10 years ago, which was devastating to her. He could have made contact at any time, as my sister and mother have lived in the same houses since before he cut himself off. He has always been the type of person who takes no responsibility for his actions, uses what ever he can get his hands on, and sponges off (or steals) from the people around him. I have spent hours listening to her when she wanted to talk about this, and when it became obvious she was dying, offered to go and find him. She said she didn't want the hassle, but I think it would have been heart-breaking if she know he knew how ill she was and didn't respond. I have another sister who lives overseas, who is very similar to my brother but even more so. We have not talked to for about 4 years, since she told me she was going to 'go out for a slap up meal and celebrate that woman's death' when talking about my mother. I pointed out that, not only was that a horrible sentiment about anyone, but she was also talking about my mother and she hung up. So, the question is -now mum has died should I try to track them down to tell them? I don't want to, but part of me feels really bad about the whole situation.

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McCorona · 23/01/2021 22:04

I WOULD tell them, but not until after the funeral (because you don't want them turning up and creating an atmosphere) and after a solicitor has looked at the will and all paperwork to make sure you know where you are with that.

tolerable · 23/01/2021 22:07

im so sorry for your loss. totally understand your question. i guess waiting til anyone bothers to enquire after her is not going to bring anything like closure tho. you seem to have managed to get to where you are,and whatever way theyve turned out-hasnt enabled them to try to do same.if your alot younger you have to accept-they all have their stories too.and-the child version.which doesnt always mature or be viewable through your adult eyes.
can you maybe ask lawyer?minister?gp?to inform them..or even just sign a letter which does.
much love. again,am sorry ,your loss seems unfairly burdened. x

Aloethere · 23/01/2021 22:09

When she dies, I don't think I would want to know. It will bring up some awful memories, and make me think about the mother I wanted but never had. And all the lies.

I think about this sometimes, once my dad dies I won't have any link to my mother. I wonder how I will feel when she dies. I would probably mourn the mother I never had, the mother she was to my sibling and could have been to me. I would want to know though, to be given the chance to mourn in my own way. It won't be the way my sister will mourn though.

It seems so crazy to me that so many people are saying they chose to go no contact so screw them. Like the onus was on them to go crawling back to her after what was probably a very poor and damaging childhood. She couldn't even be arsed with the 'hassle' of contacting them when she knew she was dying. She had no inclination to make amends with her children before she died, tell them one last time(or maybe for the first time) that she loved them, says a lot I think.

Shedbuilder · 23/01/2021 22:14

OP, I'd get the funeral organised and probate and any legal stuff sorted. I would warn the funeral director and anyone else involved that you, and only you, would make arrangements and any attempts by the family to get involved were to be rebuffed. Is it too late to organise a direct cremation, where your loved one is cremated immediately, without a funeral service? That can be a real boon in feuding families, where funerals are yet another opportunity for power struggles.

Five days before the funeral I'd send them either a letter (get proof of posting so you can say look, here's proof I sent you a letter if they kick off) or I'd open a new email account just for this purpose and send them a factual email — that your mother died on such-and-such a date, the funeral will be held online and they can watch it via this link at such-and-such date and time and nothing more.

If they kick off on the email you can just ignore the account and they won't be able to make your life difficult. I wouldn't put your address or contact details on the letter: make it difficult for them to locate you and cause trouble. Protect yourself. Your mum just died, you don't need more grief.

I'd consider my duty done at that point. Condolences to you: I'm sorry you don't have the comfort that good siblings can provide.

Hugoslavia · 23/01/2021 22:18

I think that is you ought to tell them. Don't give them any details re funeral etc. Let them ask if they want to. I doubt that they will offer to help you deal with her estate/plan the funeral etc. However, I bet that they will be in touch to see if there is any money to be had. If she has a will and they are named, you don't need to get in touch. You can just let the solicitors deal with that.

SunshineCake · 23/01/2021 22:30

Only read the OP. Anyone with a loving mother will not understand your thoughts and dilemma. My personal opinion is not to bother telling them. They didn't want any news on her when she was alive, didn't want her in their lives, so it makes no real odds to them she has died. But of course it will but they have no right. They made their choice.

stonebrambleboy · 23/01/2021 22:37

I definitely would not tell them.

mistermagpie · 23/01/2021 22:47

I'm NC with my parents and brother. Have been for years.

When my parents die I expect I will be told, but I don't think I have any right to be. We are not part of each other's lives and my husband has been instructed not to inform them if anything happens to me. I certainly have no interest in their money (they have lots) and have no doubt that I will not inherit any anyway.

So your siblings might be the same. A letter would be courteous and may help you feel you had done what you could, but they might not be very interested either way. I wouldn't feel under pressure at all.

DioneTheDiabolist · 23/01/2021 22:54

All you can do is what you can do OP. Put a death notice in the paper and tell others who might still be in contact with your siblings.

Condolences and sympathy for losing your mum at such a difficult time @SunsetSenora.Flowers

SunsetSenora · 23/01/2021 23:04

@BluebellsGreenbells

My father was awful, beat up my mother, drunk etc and we went NC years ago.

My sister decided to make contact and has the same belief as you ... misguided, work pressures, all forgiveness blah blah

And I know you don’t want to hear it, but my sister made those choices and many of the family no longer speak to her. She’s well meaning but far too ready to ‘fix’ what she sees as broken.

I was pleased he died as were my other siblings.

You made a choice and I think you either make the decision to not inform them - I don’t think you’d go down this route because it’s against your nature, or you find them and let someone else speak to them and let them know, but again I don’t think you’d do that either. You want to be seen to be doing the right thing. You want to make contact, you want to tell them because you feel it’s right that they know.

They don’t care and for some reason you don’t want to believe that of them.

No, this is not it at all. I can fully see that my mother had her faults but she was not abusive, and if anything spoiled them. But yep, it is their past and their relationships and if they want to go NC that is up to them. I dont really care if they care or not - in fact would be happy not to extend myself for them as it has been a long final illness and I am completely exhausted. But on a human level, I am wondering what it would be like to find out you hadnt been told.

I am not sure where you got the idea that I want to be 'seen' to do the right thing. That seems needlessly mean. I am trying to work out what to do.

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VillaMia · 23/01/2021 23:09

I would write to each of them and let them know. It all sounds incredibly hard for you, which I'm sure only adds to your sense of loss Flowers

HibernatingTill2030 · 23/01/2021 23:12

OP, could you maybe ask someone to post in a local community page? There was one in mine a year or so back that was asking if anybody knew a FirstName LastName, who was the child of MrLastname. They were sorry to inform them that MrLastName had died, and if they wanted more information to get in touch with the poster (I don't believe they were related to the deceased, so likely acting on behalf of family).

SunsetSenora · 23/01/2021 23:13

Thank you all for your posts, it has helped me to clarify my thinking. There is a lot of pain on this thread, and I am sorry for that. As you can probably gather, growing up in this family was no picnic for me either. I have sorted a notice for the local paper an address for my local sibling from the local council records and have someone getting an address for my sister. I will write to them both but am not going to call or speak to them directly because frankly I dont think either deserve it and I just dont have it in me. And that will be the end of it.

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eaglejulesk · 23/01/2021 23:16

I'm sorry for your loss OP. Flowers Given that no-one has any contact details for your siblings I would just leave things as they are. Put a notice in the local papers and maybe someone else will see it and inform them, but honestly if they have cut themselves off to the extent that you don't know how to find them, and they haven't bothered to contact you for so long, I don't think they will actually care.

VillaMia · 23/01/2021 23:19

@SunsetSenora

Thank you all for your posts, it has helped me to clarify my thinking. There is a lot of pain on this thread, and I am sorry for that. As you can probably gather, growing up in this family was no picnic for me either. I have sorted a notice for the local paper an address for my local sibling from the local council records and have someone getting an address for my sister. I will write to them both but am not going to call or speak to them directly because frankly I dont think either deserve it and I just dont have it in me. And that will be the end of it.
I'm pleased you can see a way forward Sunset. Given the circumstances, it seems the least harmful for you and your siblings. Wishing you all the very best.
MichelleScarn · 23/01/2021 23:20

l can fully see that my mother had her faults but she was not abusive do you know this? Have your siblings said there was no emotional, psychological or physical abuse or are you saying this from your view and your mother's opinion? Why then have all your older sibs gone now, and what were all the issues you had to work through?

eaglejulesk · 23/01/2021 23:21

Sorry - I've just read your update OP! Yes, send a letter to them and then get on with your life. In the unlikely event they reply I wouldn't read those replies until you feel able to deal with it (or not at all if you don't want to). All the best.

Thepollonator · 23/01/2021 23:24

Not to tell siblings about mothers death?
SunsetSenora

I was in a similar situation except none of us had anything to do with my Mother however when I was told that she had died I did inform my siblings and her sister, it was just the right thing to do. Needless to say none of us attended her funeral but they did have the choice.
Sorry for your loss.

eaglejulesk · 23/01/2021 23:24

@MichelleScarn - what a thoroughly unpleasant post!!! It is nothing to do with you what has happened in the OP's family, how dare you even ask.

BloggersBlog · 23/01/2021 23:29

You talk about your brother and overseas sister, what about your other sibling? Can they contact the others for you?

AcornAutumn · 23/01/2021 23:36

@SunsetSenora

Thank you all for your posts, it has helped me to clarify my thinking. There is a lot of pain on this thread, and I am sorry for that. As you can probably gather, growing up in this family was no picnic for me either. I have sorted a notice for the local paper an address for my local sibling from the local council records and have someone getting an address for my sister. I will write to them both but am not going to call or speak to them directly because frankly I dont think either deserve it and I just dont have it in me. And that will be the end of it.
I was about to say, if all 3 are no contact, then I don't see any need for you to put yourself through this.

If you do decide to go ahead and contact them, I would not include any of your own contact details. But really if all 3 are completely NC - have I got that right? - then I think they have put themselves in a position where there is no need for them to be told.

All good wishes to you Flowers

Embroideredstars · 23/01/2021 23:38

The op hasn't asked for posters' opinions on her mothers parenting of her siblings but whether she should inform them of her death.

I don't supposed she needs questions about whether her mother was abusive or not!

IMO OP a letter is the best course of action, with perhaps a line to say you don't want to be contacted, or if they do contact you, you don't want to hear their negative opinions. All the best to you Flowers

VillanellesOrangeCoat · 23/01/2021 23:39

@SunsetSenora So glad to see you’ve reached a solution, and one that sounds right for you. Sincere condolences for your loss Flowers

SunsetSenora · 23/01/2021 23:39

@MichelleScarn

l can fully see that my mother had her faults but she was not abusive do you know this? Have your siblings said there was no emotional, psychological or physical abuse or are you saying this from your view and your mother's opinion? Why then have all your older sibs gone now, and what were all the issues you had to work through?
Yes, I do know this. I have talked and listened extensively to both the siblings who went NC - as well as the oldest who is not and lives near me. And the others who mum took in when they needed help. The most either of the NC pair has to say is that they didnt get what they needed growing up. Which is truly sad. But since their subsequent behaviour includes theft (inside and outside the family), drugs, abandoning their children and lying, it is hard to know what they meant. She was not perfect, but who is? And past 30, people really need to take responsibility for themselves and their own behaviour.
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AmberItsACertainty · 23/01/2021 23:41

I wouldn't bother OP. You're no contact with your siblings and you don't know where they are. If they ever contact you, tell them then.

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