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Not to tell siblings about mothers death?

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SunsetSenora · 23/01/2021 19:34

I am one of 4 children, a lot younger than my siblings. My parents were 18 when they married, each desperate to escape a hated mother, and it did not make for a happy family - all of the kids have been estranged from the family at some point. As an adult I worked through a lot of stuff and reconciled with my mother, spending the last 10 years living near her, and helping nurse her for the last few. My brother lives in the same town but cut off contact with my mum about 10 years ago, which was devastating to her. He could have made contact at any time, as my sister and mother have lived in the same houses since before he cut himself off. He has always been the type of person who takes no responsibility for his actions, uses what ever he can get his hands on, and sponges off (or steals) from the people around him. I have spent hours listening to her when she wanted to talk about this, and when it became obvious she was dying, offered to go and find him. She said she didn't want the hassle, but I think it would have been heart-breaking if she know he knew how ill she was and didn't respond. I have another sister who lives overseas, who is very similar to my brother but even more so. We have not talked to for about 4 years, since she told me she was going to 'go out for a slap up meal and celebrate that woman's death' when talking about my mother. I pointed out that, not only was that a horrible sentiment about anyone, but she was also talking about my mother and she hung up. So, the question is -now mum has died should I try to track them down to tell them? I don't want to, but part of me feels really bad about the whole situation.

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rwalker · 23/01/2021 20:58

I'd get a message to them it draws a line under everything .All you are doing is informing them of her deaths what they choose to do is upto them .

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AcrossthePond55 · 23/01/2021 20:59

I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to find them. Local paper for your brother, which may also alert any friends your other siblings may still have in the area and I'm sure they'd let them know. Try the email for the mutual acquaintance and just tell them that your mother has died and if she's still in contact with your sister please pass it along. For the ones you have no details for I wouldn't put effort into locating them.

When one makes the choice to go NC, no matter how valid or invalid the reason, you are also making the choice NOT to be kept in the loop about the person you cut contact with. Choices have consequences, the good choices as well as the bad.

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FedUpAtHomeTroels · 23/01/2021 21:01

Send a message through aquaintences. They should know.
My Dh found out this way his mother had died, even though his sisters knew where he was, had our address and email. Terrible behaviour on their part not to drop a note in the post.
I sent a condolences card so they knew that Dh had found out. He will never contact them again.

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kowari · 23/01/2021 21:01

Short of knocking on doors, you should try your best to contact them through the paper, social media, other people who would be in contact with them.

If you are a lot younger than your siblings then you may not have known the mother they did. My youngest sibling had a different childhood to myself and my middle sibling (we were 10 and 7 when youngest was born). A person is often not the same person as they were a decade younger.

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TwelvePaws · 23/01/2021 21:04

Sorry for your loss.

But I wouldn’t bother telling your siblings. It doesn’t sound like they would care and that would only upset you if they were to say anything negative, which it sounds like they might.
I have family that I don’t have contact with and I wouldn’t want to know when they die. It won’t affect me and there’s just no reason that I’d need or want to know. There’s usually a good reason people go no contact.

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Planty13 · 23/01/2021 21:05

I think you need to try and find a way to inform them. As pp have said - you are the youngest. You likely had a very different childhood from them. It’s not straight forward.

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Cosyjimjamsforautumn · 23/01/2021 21:09

Put a notice in the local paper after the funeral. If you're her executor you only need to find them if your mum left them anything in her will.

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Lucieintheskye · 23/01/2021 21:11

OP do you and they have social media? You may be able to find them on Facebook? I'd say local paper, the news will likely get round to them if they have friends who live locally.

I'm sorry for you loss, but please be prepared for your siblings to not feel as you do.

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athousandwords · 23/01/2021 21:17

I would tell them - the next time they phoned me.

If you DO decide they should be told, I would leave it until AFTER the funeral; otherwise you may face a barrage of demands and ultimatums. Not what you need to deal with right now.

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Princessbanana · 23/01/2021 21:26

I am very sorry about your mother but I think you should tell your brother and sister. you are younger than them and obviously don't know the full story as you were not born yet. I would not hold out hope of them coming to the funeral but I do think they deserve to know, it sounds like they were put through a lot.

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ekidmxcl · 23/01/2021 21:26

I think you should leave it.

It could be that they had different life experiences to you because they are older? In any case if you are estranged from an older person, you know they might die. So I don’t think your siblings will care about the death. Look after yourself, they made their decisions, just leave them to it.

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Norealclue · 23/01/2021 21:30

I am sorry to hear of your loss
I might be reading between the lines here but you mentioned that the last 14 months were awful. I took this to mean that you were caring for your mum in the last months of her life. With your siblings being NC they would not have done a single thing to help you or your mum.
They chose to go NC. They would know your mother's age and they should have been able to work out that she was getting older and death may come at any time. They stayed silent.
You may have put a lot of effort physically and emotionally into caring for your mother and facing her death without the support of your siblings. You will be exhausted as well as raw from your bereavement your siblings do not sound very kind or considerate. Right now you have to be kind to yourself to get through this.
They went NC and that is what they chose, leave them to it. They are possibly about to demand inheritance (whether or not there is any inheritance) and could do all sorts of things to cause you even more upset at a time when you could reasonably expect support. Dont open the door for them. Leave them to it.
Have they advised you of any life events such as marriages or children being born?

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Aloethere · 23/01/2021 21:32

I understand that you are grieving but you should imo tell them. Your mother clearly damaged them, you cannot blame them for not being able to get over it as you have. You did not live their experience.

As someone, who had a very different experience of childhood from her sibling, please don’t berate your siblings choosing to cut off your mum. It sounds as if both the situation and their childhoods were very difficult and your mother, rather than being able to make amends for how she treated her children was stuck in her childhood trauma.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts too. I had a very different experience to my sibling, she cannot imagine the damage my mother did to me, she didn't live it.. If she dared judge me for that I would be pretty pissed off to be honest. It isn't my place to fix my relationship with my mother, she damaged it, not me, I was child. I would presume your siblings feel the same way.

The scars that having a shitty mother leaves can be enormous, I can't bear to have a close relationship with my sister because for want of a better word it trigger me too much. Her closeness to my mother makes it feel like my proximity to my mother is closer and it makes me feel sick and anxious. You seem to be seeing things very black and white but childhood trauma is a tough thing to work past and shielding yourself from it by blocking out the cause of the trauma and those that remind you of it is sometimes the only thing you can do to make it stop.

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Astella22 · 23/01/2021 21:33

If they cut themselves off then no I wouldn’t, u owe them diddly squat
Sorry for your loss

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Dopeyduck · 23/01/2021 21:34

I agree that you should tell them. It’s really shitty that it falls to you, even more so that they’re likely to make it hard and it drags up a lot of stuff. However at the end of the day it’s their mum and they should know.

Unlike others I think you should call or go in person (obviously not overseas). Even if it’s awful it’s their mum and it’s the right thing to do.

I’m sorry you’ve lost your mum and now have to face this. Get it over with or it’ll hang over you.

Good luck whatever you decide.

Flowers

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BiBabbles · 23/01/2021 21:35

Obituary in a local paper and with the paper and/or the funeral home, having an online memorial - they might not think to look for a while, and if/when they do, this will make the information more likely to pop up in google so they don't bother you.

Being estranged from nearly all my family, I don't expect to be kept in the loop. I'm pretty easy to find if they want (my brother and I are friends on facebook even though we haven't talked in years, I have had the same email since I left), but they didn't really talk to me much when I was there so... I have had found out relatives have died this way, I appreciated that they made sure our extended family (with more than a few us of lost black sheep) and friends could find out.

If you'd more recently been in touch with them more recently and discussed her ill health and dying, I'd lean more towards trying to make contact (I have had people do that and then go radio silence - that did hurt a lot), but as described, I'd make it googleable (or have a funeral home/paper/friend do that for you) and keep your distance.

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MichelleScarn · 23/01/2021 21:37

@Aloethere

I understand that you are grieving but you should imo tell them. Your mother clearly damaged them, you cannot blame them for not being able to get over it as you have. You did not live their experience.

As someone, who had a very different experience of childhood from her sibling, please don’t berate your siblings choosing to cut off your mum. It sounds as if both the situation and their childhoods were very difficult and your mother, rather than being able to make amends for how she treated her children was stuck in her childhood trauma.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts too. I had a very different experience to my sibling, she cannot imagine the damage my mother did to me, she didn't live it.. If she dared judge me for that I would be pretty pissed off to be honest. It isn't my place to fix my relationship with my mother, she damaged it, not me, I was child. I would presume your siblings feel the same way.

The scars that having a shitty mother leaves can be enormous, I can't bear to have a close relationship with my sister because for want of a better word it trigger me too much. Her closeness to my mother makes it feel like my proximity to my mother is closer and it makes me feel sick and anxious. You seem to be seeing things very black and white but childhood trauma is a tough thing to work past and shielding yourself from it by blocking out the cause of the trauma and those that remind you of it is sometimes the only thing you can do to make it stop.

Agree with all of this post. Maybe your siblings are still damaged by their childhood which you recognise did not make for a happy family and by being considerably younger than them you haven't had the same experience?
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wendyleen · 23/01/2021 21:43

I was going to say a letter but see you don't have contact details.

Next best bet would be to put a note in the paper. I wouldn't bother trying to find them as you run the risk of being on the receiving end which is not what you need at the moment. If there is any backlash you just need to say you didn't know how to contact them.

It all sounds very complicated. Sounds like you were supportive to your Mum though. I'm sure she appreciated that.

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beautifullybonkers · 23/01/2021 21:48

My husband had had no contact with his abusive mother since childhood and made the one family member he still had contact with promise to never share information or photos of him and our family with her. However, when he died I still thought she had a right to know her only child had passed away. I asked the trusted family member to let her know but also asked that she didn’t attend his funeral as he would not have wanted that. According to the family member she had said “well that’s the end” and “I won’t attend his funeral” and then hung up. It was the reaction my husband would have predicted but I live knowing that at least she knows. I also had my brother call husband’s ex wife to let her know - again their split had been very acrimonious but I felt it was the right thing to do.

I feel your siblings have a right to know regardless of their relationship with your mum but I don’t think you need to be the one to pass on the news and open yourself up to further upset. Do you have a trusted friend who you could ask?

I’m sorry for your loss, please look after yourself and ultimately do what makes you feel comfortable Flowers

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StillWeRise · 23/01/2021 21:48

they need to be told, for your own peace of mind but you don't need the stress of doing it.
I'd chose a reliable and thorough person, give them all relevant info (last known email address, mobile number etc) and ask them to do their best to find them and pass on the most basic information. Ask them to let you know when they have done it or when they have given up trying.

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gluteustothemaximus · 23/01/2021 21:48

Sounds like your siblings had a very different experience with your mother than you did.

It's ok that you had a relationship with her, but it's also ok that they didn't, and chose for their own reasons to cut her off.

That isn't done lightly.

I cut off my mother, my siblings are still in touch. I'm sure she's spinning them lies about me, how selfish I am, and there's nothing I can do.

When she dies, I don't think I would want to know. It will bring up some awful memories, and make me think about the mother I wanted but never had. And all the lies.

I am sorry for your loss. But, when someone cuts someone off, they need to save themselves and get away from the toxic. Not only will it stir it up for them, but some hurt may be directed at you (because you don't understand what it was like for them) and that's not good for you either. Your experience was different, which doesn't take away their experience or mean they were wrong.

Everybody hurts.

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Crappyfridays7 · 23/01/2021 21:51

I’m NC with my dad. I did have him on my Facebook until fairly recently when he was posting nonsense about how great my sons were despite driving past where we live to go visiting/drinking with friends where we used to live. He didn’t want to see us or get to know his grandsons. I snapped and just decided my life would be better without any knowledge of him in my life (abusive to mum/me & my sister and just generally horrible weasly man)

So I don’t want to know when he dies, I certainly would not attend a funeral. I told other family members what he did to me and they sided with him. So it’s no loss really I wouldn’t feel I needed to tell anyone else if I were op and I’m sure the siblings will find out one way or another. Sorry for your loss op

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Mamanyt · 23/01/2021 21:53

Inform them. They don't need more than the basic facts. "I'm sorry to have to tell you that Mum passed away on (date) from (condition). You may contact me for further information should you want to do so."

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PeggyHill · 23/01/2021 21:59

I do think you ought to tell them but if you have no contact details for them... what are you supposed to do?

Don't go around knocking on doors, that's far too much. Put a notice in the paper and leave it there.

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Doilooklikeatourist · 23/01/2021 22:02

I'd suggest just putting a death notice in the local paper

Sadly , on the 2 January 2021 Sunsetmother died peacefully at home
Funeral at What Ever Name on such date
Family flowers only
Further details at Who funeral directors

If they Google at a future date , they'll find out

Don't put it on Facebook

My condolences for your loss 💐

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