To have zero sympathy for the fishing industry?

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The U.K. fishing industry voted overwhelmingly for Brexit ; 92% voted Leave according to a poll from June 2016 (source : The Guardian).

Now they are bleating about the massive logistical and administrative problems and delays that they are encountering in trying to export their catch into EU markets. Today, fish transportation companies have been driving their lorries around central London to protest about the situation.

But this is what they voted for : to ‘take back control of our waters’. They voted Leave in the full knowledge that most of the U.K. catch was exported to Europe, and that that would obviously be more difficult after Brexit, so they should suck it up & stop whinging.

DGRossetti

"European businesses would be the beneficiaries, Haward warned. “We won’t compete with Danish oysters, French oysters, Irish oysters,” he said.“They can send their oysters all around Europe without any of that paperwork or hassle, at the snap of a finger.”.
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"Haward revealed that local fishermen and oystermen – many of whom, he said, voted for Brexit – are now “not very keen to talk about it”.

"He added: “They’ve all been very pro-Brexit and thinking it was going to be something quite wonderful, but now – in the weeks since 1 January – they don’t want to talk about it."

“They don’t have an opinion anymore it seems. It’s not happening how they envisaged. I’m not quite sure what they envisaged, but whatever they thought would happen, hasn’t.”

In the next 12 months we'll also hear more and more bleatings about those sort of people still being allowed to live in this country.

"Why are they still here?! Brexit is done"

Does anyone want to point out to them that - for example - the EU Settlement scheme is extended to June(?) and foreigners are taking the government up on the offer.

Totally
I am lucky www.mudefordfishstall.co.uk/store/

sadly the Riverside in West Bay has closed
and Hix in Lyme is pretentious
but the seafood in Oban was astounding

Oh dear.

'www.thelondoneconomic.com/travel/travel-news/brexit-voting-parents-in-spain-already-noticing-a-problem-now-we-have-left-eu/02/01/

This doesn’t just apply to Sky lots of streaming services are having the same issue.

It isn’t the end of the world but be careful what you wish for.

How many more of these stories will emerge during 2021 and beyond?

@ListeningQuietly

Totally I am lucky www.mudefordfishstall.co.uk/store/

sadly the Riverside in West Bay has closed
and Hix in Lyme is pretentious
but the seafood in Oban was astounding

You need to go to Ullapool.

i suppose these artists could re train in IT ?

www.nme.com/news/music/people-are-calling-out-the-whos-roger-daltrey-for-his-previous-brexit-comments-2860916

I wonder how much of this paperwork was already having to be completed by other fish exporters who were outside of the EU before we left?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9167681/Post-Brexit-fish-exports-SEVEN-baffling-new-forms-seafood-firms-in.html

We are now being treated like the independent coastal state we wanted to be - I wonder how many people realised how such independent states were treated when they wanted to import to the EU?

I guess we have our own import regulations as well - seeing as we have control over what comes in.

Actually you can’t say all the fishing community voted for Brexit. Living in a fishing community their was division.

Large pelagic boats were for Brexit because they could catch more and steam to Denmark, Norway etc to land.

Processors, fish and shellfish farmers and small one man band fishermen e.g. crab, lobster fishermen were against as they knew it would be harder to export.

No idea about the whitefish sector as I don’t know any!

Not a shred of sympathy from me

Cant wait to be repeatedly told 'you arnt listening to these sorts of people's complaints' over and over again for years. It seems we do nothing but hear from these sorts of people. And then have to deal with their stupid voting decisions.

What do you mean the best polls show farmers were nearly 50/50? you mean the polls that support your hypothesis? because all the ones Im looking at have them around 60% for brexit at least. And far more for supporting the Conservatives.

My understanding is that the farming vote was split along geographic lines - hill farmers were more likely to vote remain.

Its really easy and fun to catch razor clams. Just need a bottle of salt.

Looks amazing ListeningQuietly, I’m jealous! Last time I had really spankingly fresh seafood it was in Italy.

As for where is Farage, I just read on Leave.UK on Facebook that he's been jumping up and down shouting about immigrants.

Can you buy decent calamari in the UK?

I no longer eat cephaolopds after snorkelling wit them
but yes
there are outlets for GOOD seafood
but sustainably produced is not cheap

Razor clams are delicious.

I'm a big seafood lover.

I used to be able to get surprisingly cheap squid in the supermarket, doubled in price about 5 years ago.

I love fish as well. It's so expensive though.

Many a happy time smashing up cooked crab with implements when young on hols. Price of that went through the roof too.

Even mussels which are sustainable and can be farmed with minimal environmental impact and are delicious have doubled in price (for fresh). I live in London not near the sea but wherever you are I've found fish and shellfish way expensive in last few years. And I'm happy to eat all sorts

I'm not sure why it got so expensive. TBH.

Anyway no in my neck of the woods you can't get decent calamari

@ListeningQuietly

I no longer eat cephaolopds after snorkelling wit them but yes there are outlets for GOOD seafood but sustainably produced is not cheap

Have you watched My Octopus Teacher @ListeningQuietly?

Prepare to sob like a child. The trailer:

I can't eat octopus after realising how intelligent these creatures are.

Squid as well.

I think that many animals including farmed are way more intellgent / connected to family and friends etc than we as humans believe.

Pigs are as clever as monkeys. Poor buggers are less cute, and delicious, so no one cares.

I know people say they were taken in by the lies, but I don't know any club where non members get a better deal (or even the same) as members and yet this was basically the line being swallowed (hook line and sinker as it were). It didn't make any sense and I think it is more likely that it was a more nasty side within ppl that was seduced, hate, xenophobia, greed and selfishness.
Brexiters must have know even in a small way this could happen, but they thought it would be other ppl who would suffer. Funnily enough all the top shakers of the movement, have made sure they are all ok though.
Sympathy???? The more I thing about it , the more angry I am at these people and the suffering they have caused. I will reserve my sympathy for all of us who didnt vote for it and the bleak outlook we are facing

Pigs are as clever as monkeys. Poor buggers are less cute, and delicious, so no one cares.

Clever enough to make themselves unacceptable as a foodstuff to two major religions though.

I know people say they were taken in by the lies, but I don't know any club where non members get a better deal (or even the same) as members and yet this was basically the line being swallowed (hook line and sinker as it were)

^^ This. No-one could vote leave and assume that all the benefits of being in the EU would continue. Why would they?

Another 'well, what did you expect' story on the BBC today:

customs charges applied to online shopping

When we were in the EU, we could order online from Germany, Spain etc and not have to pay import taxes. Now we are outside the EU, it's the same as ordering from the US and customs charges apply, as has always been the case.

Plus the couriers, Post Office etc often apply handling fees that make smaller orders uneconomic and some EU based businesses are making the decision not to ship to the UK at all, because it's not worth it to them to have to do all the paperwork.

People may have known that goods from the USA for example usually had a handling charge and other charges to pay.

Now we've left the EU, it's the same issue.

The benefits of being an independent coastal state.

How a simple mistake on a form can fuck a whole country and four nations over.