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To have zero sympathy for the fishing industry?

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AgeLikeWine · 18/01/2021 19:19

The U.K. fishing industry voted overwhelmingly for Brexit ; 92% voted Leave according to a poll from June 2016 (source : The Guardian).

Now they are bleating about the massive logistical and administrative problems and delays that they are encountering in trying to export their catch into EU markets. Today, fish transportation companies have been driving their lorries around central London to protest about the situation.

But this is what they voted for : to ‘take back control of our waters’. They voted Leave in the full knowledge that most of the U.K. catch was exported to Europe, and that that would obviously be more difficult after Brexit, so they should suck it up & stop whinging.

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DGRossetti · 20/01/2021 11:07

To summarise my post you so kindly have decided to deride, I have not done any research into the situation,

So suggests an MP at least. If not a minister.

my suggestion was purely based on my own greedy desire to be able to buy more seafood/fish at better prices here in the UK and was not presented as an economic solution,

Now confirmed - definitely a member of this government

however, given that the catch is going to the landfill, why couldn't it be sold to locals instead

Who doesn't understand we rejected Socialism in 2019.

Not so difficult or grasp, is it?

Apparently it is. You might buy one cut-price fishy shop. But it will be your last.

Kendodd · 20/01/2021 11:12

I really love fish and seafood but I do keep saying I should stop eating it, just because of the damage fishing does. The angry fishing bloke on the radio this morning did nothing to make me feel any sympathy his situation.

DGRossetti · 20/01/2021 11:17

@Kendodd

I really love fish and seafood but I do keep saying I should stop eating it, just because of the damage fishing does. The angry fishing bloke on the radio this morning did nothing to make me feel any sympathy his situation.
I like mackerel.

Which is probably why I can't get my favourite JW Irish wood smoked anymore. Just to rub salt into the Brexit wounds.

PurpleHoodie · 20/01/2021 11:19

Couldn't agree more. YANBU.

PurpleHoodie · 20/01/2021 11:21

My sympathies only lie with fishermen/farmers who voted Remain.

praepondero · 20/01/2021 11:21

@DGRossetti
I am sorry but you have lost me; your ramblings do not make an iota of sense.

ListeningQuietly · 20/01/2021 11:22

@praepondero
Try RTFT
as DGRs comments make complete sense if you are up to speed with the discussion

DGRossetti · 20/01/2021 11:24

[quote praepondero]@DGRossetti
I am sorry but you have lost me; your ramblings do not make an iota of sense.[/quote]
Hello Victoria !

How did the play go in the end ?

BrightYellowDaffodil · 20/01/2021 11:26

There is a terrifying dearth of critical thinking going on. On both sides actually because Remainers were ignoring the actual reasons people voted Leave and had they been more curious and less critical, there might have been a meeting of the minds somewhere

I completely agree with this, one of the most depressing things I see at the moment is the entrenchment from people I care about, people who would class themselves as educated, liberal and compassionate, being completely open about how much they hate anyone who voted Tory, how anyone who voted out of Europe is thick, racist and ignorant, and how anyone who votes these ways is a monster. on the occasions I’ve suggested that tolerance might be an option, I get a kicking.

That said, I still don’t have an enormous amount of sympathy for those who’ve knowingly voted themselves into worse situations and then immediately had their hand out for some cash. And I don’t really like fish, so I’m damn well not “doing my patriotic duty” to get them out of a hole they dug themselves into.

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/01/2021 15:07

I'll eat your langoustine Bright. Pass the butter.

BTW does anyone know if musicians will receive £100K? Or are they not plucky and British enough. Even though their industry is such a cultural and economic gain to the country.

Shrillharridan · 20/01/2021 15:08

Brexshitters fell for it hook, line and sinker...

That those groups they detested would be damaged/hurt by leaving the EU.

Oh dear.

Not playing out that way, is it?

DGRossetti · 20/01/2021 15:17

BTW does anyone know if musicians will receive £100K?

I suspect you wrote that assuming fishermen will. Maybe that'll come with the (now never mentioned) 50,000 extra customs clerks, or 40,000 NHS nurses or any other as yet unfulfilled Tory "promise".

The headline is they'll get £100,000 which is all that's needed. Fuck the reality.

Shrillharridan · 20/01/2021 15:18

Poor widdle fishermen...
0.01% of gdp.
Ffs.

Shrillharridan · 20/01/2021 15:18

Wheres farage BTW???

DGRossetti · 20/01/2021 15:28

@Shrillharridan

Wheres farage BTW???
Busy with his "Reform Party", I'd imagine.
Cornishclio · 20/01/2021 15:36

I would agree. Cornwall voted predominantly for Brexit then whined that EU money would no longer be forthcoming and now the fishermen say the same. No sympathy from me either

Shrillharridan · 20/01/2021 16:01

Fuck em

DGRossetti · 20/01/2021 16:37

SHOCK NEWS: Sales of small violins goes through the roof

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/exclusive-brexit-red-tape-has-robbed-us-of-business-essex-oysterman-says/20/01/

...
European businesses would be the beneficiaries, Haward warned. “We won’t compete with Danish oysters, French oysters, Irish oysters,” he said. “They can send their oysters all around Europe without any of that paperwork or hassle, at the snap of a finger.”.
...
Haward revealed that local fishermen and oystermen – many of whom, he said, voted for Brexit – are now “not very keen to talk about it”.

He added: “They’ve all been very pro-Brexit and thinking it was going to be something quite wonderful, but now – in the weeks since 1 January – they don’t want to talk about it.

“They don’t have an opinion anymore it seems. It’s not happening how they envisaged. I’m not quite sure what they envisaged, but whatever they thought would happen, hasn’t.”

HeatingUpTheHive · 20/01/2021 17:09

They don’t have an opinion anymore it seems. It’s not happening how they envisaged. I’m not quite sure what they envisaged, but whatever they thought would happen, hasn’t.

That sums it up really.

LexMitior · 20/01/2021 17:48

Fools

Namechangeforte · 20/01/2021 18:02

An oyster farmer has hit out at the mountain of Brexit red tape being imposed on exporters, warning that new rules will mean increased costs for British consumers.
This is from that link above. remainers warned about the rise in price post-Brexit.
I for one will not buy fish or other seafood at higher prices at all. Hmm

Totallydefeated · 20/01/2021 18:07

I’m not willing to pay extra for fish or shellfish either. Bloody love it, tho. Fingers crossed prices go down for native catch.

ListeningQuietly · 20/01/2021 18:10

I am very happy to pay a good price for premium shellfish
BUT
whole grilled langoustines
baked razor clams
steamed cockles
clam chowder
baked mackerel
are already in my diet

most Brits would not know where to start if presented with a whole langoustine
and would snigger at a razor clam rather than eat it

BrightYellowDaffodil · 20/01/2021 18:45

@MrsTerryPratchett I'll eat your langoustine Bright. Pass the butter.

If it's shellfish we're talking about then I'll force myself to pitch in and help deal with the British Prawn Mountain Grin

Totallydefeated · 20/01/2021 18:59

I love all that, ListeningQuietly, but much of it is hard to find in both shops and restaurants here.