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To have zero sympathy for the fishing industry?

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AgeLikeWine · 18/01/2021 19:19

The U.K. fishing industry voted overwhelmingly for Brexit ; 92% voted Leave according to a poll from June 2016 (source : The Guardian).

Now they are bleating about the massive logistical and administrative problems and delays that they are encountering in trying to export their catch into EU markets. Today, fish transportation companies have been driving their lorries around central London to protest about the situation.

But this is what they voted for : to ‘take back control of our waters’. They voted Leave in the full knowledge that most of the U.K. catch was exported to Europe, and that that would obviously be more difficult after Brexit, so they should suck it up & stop whinging.

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Changi · 18/01/2021 19:43

That should have said... Two out of every five people in Scotland voted for Brexit.

Narniacalling · 18/01/2021 19:43

Why did they sell off their quotas
And why did they think after selling off their quotas that brexit would mean they could just go back to sq one and have all the fishing rights back.
It beggars belief.
Idiots

TonMoulin · 18/01/2021 19:48

Yes they were lied to.

But the lies were so big they were hard to miss.
And the tories/UKIP have a long history of lying/not doing what they said they would. Remember the hunt for benefit scroungers that became having a go at all benefit claimants?

I’m surprised people don’t learn

frumpety · 18/01/2021 19:49

I suppose the Government could do something useful and start a campaign encouraging the UK public to eat the fish caught in UK waters ?

TonMoulin · 18/01/2021 19:51

The fishing industry wasn’t affected by fishing quotas.
They’ve been affected by the government selling those fishing quotas to other countries.

Now seeing what that government did then, how could they trust them to have the fishing industry interest at heart??

Narniacalling · 18/01/2021 19:51

The fishing industry doesn’t want to spend years slowly hoping the brits eat fish and the price might go up, they want all of the fish and to be able to sell them in the most competitive market without any of the downsides.
After making millions from selling off their original quotas.

SkedaddIe · 18/01/2021 19:51

YABU Mackerel is delightful and we should all be eating more of it.

British food for British people.

littlepattilou · 18/01/2021 19:52
Biscuit
Whatsissname · 18/01/2021 19:53

@frumpety

I suppose the Government could do something useful and start a campaign encouraging the UK public to eat the fish caught in UK waters ?
Well if they are good at anything it's fishy stories and red herrings.
LetItGoGo · 18/01/2021 19:53

Is suppose the 8 % rely on exports.

GingerBeverage · 18/01/2021 19:54

Every time I saw someone trying to explain how Brexit would end up costing them, the response was "Project Fear!!!". So I have no time for fishy whah whahs now.

Ginfordinner · 18/01/2021 19:54

Maybe people like me who live about as far as possible from the sea might be able to buy more fresh fish if they made it available to us Brits.

So many times on cookery programmes with chefs like Rick Stein I see fishermen saying that they export langoustines and other nice to eat fish to Europe because we don't buy them. Well, we don't even get a chance to buy them.

Steps off soapbox.

GCAcademic · 18/01/2021 19:54

@Cornetttttto

They were lied to. Boris refused to even discuss them and their plight last week. Regardless of your beliefs about Brexit, they were lied to. And that is horrible.
Surely one of the considerations when people went to the ballot box to vote in the EU referendum was the extent to which our politicians (who, let's face it, are likely to be Tory for a generation to come) could be trusted to act in the interests of the population once out of the EU? It's one of the reasons why I didn't vote to Leave.
FourTurnings · 18/01/2021 19:54

No sympathy. They were fools.

SkedaddIe · 18/01/2021 19:55

Well if they are good at anything it's fishy stories and red herrings.

@Whatsissname Grin

PinkiOcelot · 18/01/2021 19:55

God aren’t some people on here just lovely?! Does it make you feel all superior?!

GCAcademic · 18/01/2021 19:56

@Ginfordinner

Maybe people like me who live about as far as possible from the sea might be able to buy more fresh fish if they made it available to us Brits.

So many times on cookery programmes with chefs like Rick Stein I see fishermen saying that they export langoustines and other nice to eat fish to Europe because we don't buy them. Well, we don't even get a chance to buy them.

Steps off soapbox.

I agree. This frustrates me so much. I love seafood and you just can't get it around here.
Narniacalling · 18/01/2021 19:56

@TonMoulin
They were not sold by the government.
The governments of every EU country was allowed to distribute the quotas in the style they wanted.
The U.K. government decided to make it a commodity much like housing - able to be bought and sold by anyone to anyone, so strict rules of ownership in terms of quantity or location. Ergo, 1/2 industry is in foreign hands and pretty much the rest is in the hands of 5 U.K. families.

The fishing industry knew this all when they voted brexit.

Tanith · 18/01/2021 19:59

They were lied to. They've been screwed for years by the likes of Nigel Farage failing to fight their corner.
I won't gloat now they've discovered they were conned. Anyone can fall for a scam.

My loathing is reserved for Farage, Rees-Mogg, Johnson, Redwood, Banks, Gove and all the others who deliberately betrayed their fellow countrymen for their own gain.

Narniacalling · 18/01/2021 20:01

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/10/11/fishing-quota-uk-defra-michael-gove/amp/

An interesting read. Anyone who thinks the fishing industry is some nice old boys down the harbour wanting to make enough to get by.

Runnerduck34 · 18/01/2021 20:01

Yanbu, I agree.
Not sure how UK ended up with such a small fishing quota whilst in EU but I suspect we may have sold it off!
Also waiting for farmers to start moaning...but maybe UK tax payers will pay their subsidiaries now

hairbearbunches · 18/01/2021 20:02

People are entitled to their views and to feel anger at whichever side they're not on in the great brexit debate but it's worth taking a look at the website www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/fishing-the-great-betrayal to get a true understanding of how British fishermen were sold down the river by a previous Tory Government. And they were well and truly shafted. I'm not surprised they voted to leave in such high numbers, it's a shame they trusted Tories to fight for their corner a second time. Rather than blaming ordinary people hung out to dry, I'm inclined to blame all those voters who keep sticking their crosses by the blue box every damn election.

LApprentiSorcier · 18/01/2021 20:04

@Tanith

They were lied to. They've been screwed for years by the likes of Nigel Farage failing to fight their corner. I won't gloat now they've discovered they were conned. Anyone can fall for a scam.

My loathing is reserved for Farage, Rees-Mogg, Johnson, Redwood, Banks, Gove and all the others who deliberately betrayed their fellow countrymen for their own gain.

Yes, 100% agree.

Fishing is one of the toughest and most dangerous jobs there is. These aren't the people who were peddling lies on the internet - they were the people trying not to get swept overboard as they sorted through their fish to see how much they were allowed to keep. I can fully understand how they were manipulated by scoundrels like the Leave team.

Schmoana · 18/01/2021 20:06

Just to say they weren’t lied to by the government or politicians, neither Tory nor labour, who were overwhelmingly remainers! Just the likes of Johnson and Farage

Godimabitch · 18/01/2021 20:06

I agree. Did they really think the EU would agree to no longer fishing our waters at all but still let us use their ports in the same way. Leavers went into Brexit thinking we could retain every benefit from the EU while stopping giving them anything back. Obviously that was never going to happen.

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