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To think this woman was just being a dick/trying to make things hard for people who are distancing?

255 replies

thepeopleversuswork · 18/01/2021 16:19

In a small, dirty and pretty crowded corner shop with my DD. We're in SE London in one of the areas with highest case rates. I am trying as far as possible to avoid going out at all beyond walks in the park and this is the first time I've been in a shop for 10 days so I'm a bit jumpy about it and trying to get in and out as fast and safely as possible.

Shop is crowded, people queueing near the till, not distanced at all, a couple of kids not wearing masks. There was a gaggle of three late middle-aged women chatting next to the till, making it difficult to distance by the till (and thus pretty unsafe for the person serving as there was a very insufficient screen) and blocking the exit out of the shop.

I pointedly - maybe being a bit OTT -- waited as far back from the front of the queue as I could before paying which I would have thought signalled that I was taking distancing pretty seriously and wanted to be given a wide berth.

After I paid and walked towards the shop exit, trying to swerve the women gossiping by the door, a 2p piece escaped from my purse because it hadn't been zipped up properly. One of the women huddling by the till picked it up: I was just on my way towards the door and she started walking towards me to give me the 2p back. I said: "don't worry about it, just put it in the charity box" and indicated I was on my way out and that I was more interested in preserving the distance. She moved right in close towards me and I said: "no I'm distancing, can you just keep it or put in the charity box please?". She comes right up to me and sticks the bloody 2p piece in my coat pocket with her grimy hand and pats my pocket. I looked visibly irritated and walked off and I heard her say "calm down, love, I was doing you a favour," as I was walking out of the door.

I turned around and said loudly (so the rest of the people massing by the till could hear" "Sorry but I'm not prepared to risk catching COVID for the sake of a 2 pence piece. I did make this pretty clear but if you can't understand that then perhaps you shouldn't be going out at all and certainly not hanging about by the till."

I heard her shouting: "stuck up cow" out of the doorway as I walked off.

Maybe I was a bit of an arse but this is exactly how COVID spreads. Totally unnecessary contact: people's attitude to saving small change in this country is so bonkers anyway: I know money is tight for a lot of people but who thinks that saving 2p is going to be worthwhile if you lose your job due to sickness?

I get that its easier for some people to distance than others and maybe she thought I was being precious but it really fucks me off when people impose their laissez faire attitude on others. It's one thing to just forget every now and then but I seriously think some people actually enjoy making those who taking it seriously feel uncomfortable...

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Wheresmykimchi · 19/01/2021 00:53

Cheers @thepeopleversuswork. I think we are all losing it a bit! I certainly find myself responding far ferociously than I ever would have before.
Awk, aren't we all at times. Grin

Flowers
prawntoastie · 19/01/2021 00:55

I understand your point but I am more on her side.

Sinful8 · 19/01/2021 00:56

@Wheresmykimchi

Would you have done the same if it was an elderly gentleman talking by the door and giving you it back with his clean hand rather than a middle aged women with her grimy hand?
The fuck? Hmm
MynephewR · 19/01/2021 01:02

As someone that is not overly worried about catching covid (just accepted that it's inevitable at some point) I've noticed that within the people that are really worried there are 2 groups.

1 - those that just want to keep their distance, stick to the rules and do the best they can
2 - those that think they are above other people because they are socially distancing/following the rules etc better than everyone else

Perhaps you came across a bit no 2 OP. It doesn't excuse the way that the woman reacted but I've got to admit if I picked up dropped change up for someone and tried to give it back and they flippantly said "don't worry about it, just put it in the charity box" I'd be a bit Hmm "err I think you mean thanks, I'm not your dogsbody".

The thing is that people are going to get annoyed with those that behave like no2. Some may not like it, may think its ridiculous but its just a fact.

briebuiltthiscity · 19/01/2021 01:11

I live in SE London. We have an amazing service (well several) it’s called online delivery. And we have lots of choice... Deliveroo, uber eats plus many of the supermarkets offer a quick delivery service too.

I’d recommend that if you don’t want to go to a shop that you make use of one of them.

Sinful8 · 19/01/2021 01:14

[quote JingsMahBucket]@MynephewR
I'm the real world the OP would quickly take the 2p with a thanks then get outside, roll their eyes, mutter to themselves about people really not getting this whole social distancing, sanitise their hands and get on with their life. Only on MN do people freak out about being within 2m of someone for a couple of seconds (when they've been in a small shop breathing the same air as them anyway).

Nah. In the real world I would’ve told her to keep it as well: “It’s yours now. 🙂”.

I don’t care if it sounds condescending. I’m not taking a 2p coin that a stranger picked up off the floor with their grimy hand during a fucking pandemic. Some of you people have gone mad.[/quote]
So do you like clean your change?

Hmm
briebuiltthiscity · 19/01/2021 01:21

You’d also be super worried if you knew where some of notes have probably been. this is why I never use cash

DioneTheDiabolist · 19/01/2021 01:29

YANBU OP, she was being a total dick and some of the comments on this thread are utterly ridiculous. On the rare occasions I use cash now I don't take change if it's less than 50p. £50 is my weekly shop, so of course I would take that.

And had someone put their hands on me today because they were being a Covid dick, they would have got a smack in the mouth.Angry

Defenbaker · 19/01/2021 01:30

YANBU, but I doubt she'll take any notice of what you said. She was quite invasive, and pretty annoying as you specifically declined her offer to hand the coin back to you.

Even in non Covid times coins are germ ridden, and so is a shop floor, so I totally get why you'd leave it for the charity box. Mind you, I'm pretty germ phobic, so I'm at one end of the spectrum, and many people are at the other, so I expect some will pile on soon, saying YABU for not appreciating her "kindness".

That shop sounds like a place worth avoiding if you can - it might be worth walking further next time.

Sinful8 · 19/01/2021 01:31

@DioneTheDiabolist

YANBU OP, she was being a total dick and some of the comments on this thread are utterly ridiculous. On the rare occasions I use cash now I don't take change if it's less than 50p. £50 is my weekly shop, so of course I would take that.

And had someone put their hands on me today because they were being a Covid dick, they would have got a smack in the mouth.Angry

So what do you do then if they knock your teeth out in self defence?
briebuiltthiscity · 19/01/2021 01:36

And had someone put their hands on me today because they were being a Covid dick, they would have got a smack in the mouth.angry

You do realise that would involve touching them again.

MynephewR · 19/01/2021 01:37

@DioneTheDiabolist

YANBU OP, she was being a total dick and some of the comments on this thread are utterly ridiculous. On the rare occasions I use cash now I don't take change if it's less than 50p. £50 is my weekly shop, so of course I would take that.

And had someone put their hands on me today because they were being a Covid dick, they would have got a smack in the mouth.Angry

So you'll happily handle £50 that's most likely been up someone's nose (and god knows where else) but the op was right to refuse to accept a coin from a strangers hand? Confused
Marmite17 · 19/01/2021 01:39

I would be very upset about this . You asked her, twice, to stay away. She then came close enough to put a coin into your pocket. She sounds like a passive/ aggressive bully. Plus ignorant tbh.

Robbybobtail · 19/01/2021 01:42

This reminds me of that woman in America at the start of the pandemic who deliberately coughed in the other woman’s face after she complained loudly to the woman behind the till that the former wasn’t wearing a mask. It was childish of her to do that (cough I mean) but I could kind of understand it as the woman complaining was such a whiny, annoying bitch. I’d have been tempted myself!

DioneTheDiabolist · 19/01/2021 01:43

To feed my children @MynephewR? Yeah I would. If 2p means the same to you as £50, you're either very rich or very stupid.

That bridge had already been crossed @briebuiltthiscity.

PyongyangKipperbang · 19/01/2021 02:01

I cant work out why you would buy food from a shop you describe as "dirty". And you described the woman as "grimy" Why? Did she actually have evidence of dirt on her or are you lining her up to fit in with your narrative.

The local shop to me was filthy, so I would pay for a taxi to the nearest supermarket rather than shop there when I was without a car.

1forAll74 · 19/01/2021 02:05

Going in the dirty shop is quite bad, never mind the woman with the grimy hands. Have you thrown your coat away now !

Wheresmykimchi · 19/01/2021 02:09

@Sinful8

the OP understood my analogy six pages ago but we've already hashed it out and reached a conclusion so I won't be going back down that rabbit hole. Thanks for picking out my post though.

PeggyHill · 19/01/2021 03:07

She probably did not initially set out to be a dick when she grabbed your 2p, but once you said no thanks to her, at that point she started being a dick on purpose, yes.

Suzi888 · 19/01/2021 03:18

YANBU
She wasn’t ‘trying to be kind’ who the hell sticks their hand in a strangers pocket for God sake! Confused. If that’d been a man, would that be ok too? Not on mn!

I think as you said you were trying to distance, a bit OTT and she thought she would mess with that.

AngelicPP · 19/01/2021 06:50

@fassbendersmistress

You lost me at the very beginning when you made it clear you were worried about catching covid yet went into a crowded corner shop.

Also your suggestion that because you stood at a distance from others ‘should have made it very obvious you were social distancing’...is bonkers. Most people are just out and about doing their own thing. If you needed them to know, you should have spoken up. Especially as you had already judged they were not observing restrictions as well as you were.

Apart from the fact that everybody should actually be social distancing anyway?! Yes of course people should have realised that she was keeping her distance!
AngelicPP · 19/01/2021 06:52

@Onjnmoeiejducwoapy

What is wrong with some of the posters on here? The woman was clearly NOT trying to be helpful, she took umbrage at OP trying to stay a safe distance and decided to plague all over her for a bit of fun. She literally blocked her from getting out of the shop, when OP repeatedly asked her to not come closer.

OP needs food! Shops should be reasonably safe, of people didn’t all decide to act like idiots.

Yes!!! Thank you!! I was just about to comment the same!!
AngelicPP · 19/01/2021 06:58

[quote JingsMahBucket]@Wheresmykimchi
Do you think that referring to shops as dirty and a gaggle of middle aged woman gossiping sounds like normal speak?

Yes...? Why wouldn’t it be normal speak? If a shop’s dusty then it’s dusty and dirty. We all have corner shops like that or have been in one like that. That’s pretty normal. Same thing with describing the people standing around. I understand what you’re saying to an extent but if that’s what’s normal, then what’s wrong with describing it?[/quote]
I also agree with you...it's just pointing out the facts. Why would it be snobby to point out a place that is dirty if the place is in fact dirty? I think the point of saying about the women standing around chatting was also just stating the facts...that instead of social distancing and going in and out of the shop as quick as possible like they SHOULD be doing right now they were hanging around chatting close together. I don't find any of what she said snobby..just truthful and obvs coming from someone who is a bit scared of catching COVID (rightly so!) those saying why go in the shop in the first place..oh I don't know maybe she thought people might actually keep away from her and leave her be so she could just pop in and out and get home as fast as possible this minimising the risk! I'm pretty sure she didn't expect to have a hand thrust in her pocket.

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