To think DH is being ridiculous to not eat this?

[Shushpuppy]

Mushroom pie with instructions on packet to cook from chilled and to defrost in the refrigerator. I'm running out of time so defrosted on counter. He found packet and is now moaning and refusing to eat it because it might give him food poisoning. AIBU to think he is being absurd?

Since you love a link...

www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/media/document/defrosting.pdf

^6. If necessary you could defrost food
at room temperature. Follow the manufacturer’s defrosting instructions. Food should be left out at room temperature for the shortest time possible. Ideally, defrost these foods in the fridge.^

No one is denying that bacteria will grow quicker on foods in warmer atmosphere, but sometimes when necessary, a few hours on the counter is fine!

There’s an estimated 180 deaths a year from foodborne diseases, so, as much as you would like it, won’t wipe the gene pool.

This is a good question, but the answer is, nobody knows

Thank you. No further questions

@PlanDeRaccordement, acknowledging that defrosting on the worktop goes against advice, and taking your word for it that it's more common in Britain than (which?) other countries, is there any evidence that Britain has a higher rate of food poisoning that anywhere else?

African and SE Asian countries have a higher death rate from food poisoning than other places. That’s according to the WHO. Maybe a lot of British expats are there are defrosting on the side?

Us bloody Brits with our questionable defrosting techniques. Dropping like flies, we are!

There’s an estimated 180 deaths a year from foodborne diseases, so, as much as you would like it, won’t wipe the gene pool.

I was thinking also of the miscarriages caused by food poisoning.

@PlanDeRaccordement

There’s an estimated 180 deaths a year from foodborne diseases, so, as much as you would like it, won’t wipe the gene pool.

I was thinking also of the miscarriages caused by food poisoning.

What are the stats on that?

The reply next time is "Fine don't eat it then." Abs leave him to his own devises.

What does he think people did before fridges and freezers?!

@KirstenBlest

Don't you cook your pies from scratch?

What?! Obviously not on this case

Fucking mumsnet

@SchrodingersImmigrant

No idea. But it’s a well know cause. From www.nhs.uk/conditions/miscarriage/causes/

“Food poisoning
Food poisoning, caused by eating contaminated food, can also increase the risk of miscarriage. For example:
listeriosis – most commonly found in unpasteurised dairy products, such as blue cheese
toxoplasmosis – which can be caught by eating raw or undercooked infected meat
salmonella – most often caused by eating raw or partly cooked eggs
Read more about foods to avoid in pregnancy.”

Aren’t really any statistics because no one is taking miscarriages seriously enough to find cause of death for a foetus. But recent studies indicate that mother can feel fine, but food poisoning can still cause a miscarriage:

“The researchers think that Listeria monocytogenes bacteria, and perhaps other pathogens, may be the cause of some miscarriages that are undiagnosed. The bacteria is so quick to reproduce and spread that it is hard to control. And because the mother’s illness is so mild and she may even be asymptomatic, the fetus may be infected before the mother even knows she is sick.”
news.wisc.edu/listeria-may-be-serious-miscarriage-threat-early-in-pregnancy/

He's being ridiculous.

@Iseestupidpeople

What does he think people did before fridges and freezers?!

Died young. Diarrhoea is #1 symptom of food poisoning, and diarrhoea was also the #2 cause of death in 1800. Of course, some of these deaths would be due to contaminated water- eg cholera and typhoid, but can be sure some would be due to contaminated food- e.g E. coli, listeria, salmonella, etc

@PlanDeRaccordement

There’s an estimated 180 deaths a year from foodborne diseases, so, as much as you would like it, won’t wipe the gene pool.

I was thinking also of the miscarriages caused by food poisoning.

@Shushpuppy is your DH pregnant? If so, you might want to warn him.

Ditch him, sounds a precious pain in the arse

African and SE Asian countries have a higher death rate from food poisoning than other places. That’s according to the WHO. Maybe a lot of British expats are there are defrosting on the side?

Can't believe the batshit defrosting arguments are still going on but I was SO glad to read that ^^ comment 🤣🤣

@Shushpuppy is your DH pregnant? If so, you might want to warn him.

Well Sushpuppy ate the pie too, and I think they’re a she...but maybe not. Just because men have lower risk than a pregnant woman doesn’t make it safe to eat.

I defrost at room temperature, but not on the counter. I generally lob things in the tiny side sink. No food poisoning here. Can I have my British defrosted on the counter cookie now please!

And food safety rules were written by men and for men. Not women.

Maybe the posters still copying & pasting USA advice stuff about defrosting on the side should make like Elsa. She's the last word on all things frozen.

@KirstenBlest

Don't you cook your pies from scratch?

I took this a sarcasm

I write to you all from a mushroomy grave. Don't do it people!!

Food poisoning is not a major cause of miscarriage because pregnant women are given a list of foods to avoid,

www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/keeping-well/foods-to-avoid/

I would eat it all myself..... And enjoy it!

@Shushpuppy

I write to you all from a mushroomy grave. Don't do it people!!

Don't blame the shrooms!

It could've been the chicken in your mushroom pie

Totally ridiculous.