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Dh stopping maintenance

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savethegiblets · 16/01/2021 14:27

Nc for this because I know this is a controversial subject!
Dh has a ds 21 and a dd 18.
Dh and his ex wife had a private arrangement re maintenance. Dsd has now moved out and is living with her bf in her uni town, and dss still lives at home with his mum, has never worked apart from a few weeks in a cafe, and has dropped out of college twice.
Dh has decided is probably about time he stops paying maintenance to his ex, but instead just helps the dsc out with money when they need it etc.
What do people think of this idea? I feel that at 21 and 18 this is definitely reasonable but I have a feeling dh ex will not agree...

OP posts:
CostaDelCovid · 16/01/2021 18:06

*Those words - daft phone on way out!

Doublefaced · 16/01/2021 18:07

She lives with someone else and works too. What makes you think mum contributes?’

Her mum pays her rent. If her dad chooses to take over that payment directly then fair enough. But that’s not what OP id proposing. So presumably the magic fairy starts paying?

HTH

BillMasen · 16/01/2021 18:07

@Doublefaced

No mention of mums attitude and lack of contribution for dd. Funny that.’

Who do you think will be supporting DD 100% when daddy pulls the plug? Confused She’s a STUDENT.

When?

You seem determined to paint the man as a bad guy based on nothing.

Bollss · 16/01/2021 18:09

@Doublefaced

She lives with someone else and works too. What makes you think mum contributes?’

Her mum pays her rent. If her dad chooses to take over that payment directly then fair enough. But that’s not what OP id proposing. So presumably the magic fairy starts paying?

HTH

She lives with her boyfriends mother. We don't know if she even pays rent. Hth.
TheTrashBagIsOursCmonTrashBag · 16/01/2021 18:10

I think it’s fair to not pay child support for adults and support them directly instead as and when needed. Is there a reason his son doesn’t work/drops out of college? Not in a snarky way just mean does he have additional needs, mental health difficulties or similar? Only ask because if he does have issues stopping him from working or whatever I’d try and have a conversation with the ex about how best to support him.

ScribblingPixie · 16/01/2021 18:11

Is it partly about a dad/son chat in which your DH tells his DS that it's time to take responsibility as an adult and start working & helping his mother out with rent etc if he wants to keep living with her?

ILoveYou3000 · 16/01/2021 18:14

@savethegiblets

Just for clarity, do you know how much your SD's mum is paying to her bf's mum? Does SD use any of her wages/student loan (if she receives anything) for rent?

Also, are you aware of how the ex-wife feels in regards to SS not working?

Bonsai49 · 16/01/2021 18:21

At this age my husband made arrangements to support his daughter at uni direct - mum was given a couple of months notice . She must have expected it .

She didn’t respond for several months - they now have no contact at all.

jollygreenpea · 16/01/2021 18:25

HERE ARE ALL THE OP'S POSTS SO FAR, SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE MISSED SOME OF THEM

Dh has a ds 21 and a dd 18.
Dh and his ex wife had a private arrangement re maintenance. Dsd has now moved out and is living with her bf in her uni town, and dss still lives at home with his mum, has never worked apart from a few weeks in a cafe, and has dropped out of college twice.
Dh has decided is probably about time he stops paying maintenance to his ex, but instead just helps the dsc out with money when they need it etc.
What do people think of this idea? I feel that at 21 and 18 this is definitely reasonable but I have a feeling dh ex will not agree...

I think he is a bit hesitant to mention it to her, I have said to him tell her you will pay a couple of months so she is not suddenly unable to pay a bill or something, She must know this day would come but I do feel a bit bad, if we were rich I’d probably say just keep paying, even another year, but we are so so skint right now. I lost my job last year during lockdown, and my dh lost all overtime (£1000+ a month). Otherwise I wouldn’t bother about it cos I get on well with his ex most of the time.
DS is 21 and unemployed, dd is 18 and at college.

@HugeAckmansWife he would not be coming to live with us unless he had a job and started paying us digs. I worked FT in a restaurant when I was 19, and yes it is bloody hard to find work, I remember well, I’m only 30! He worked for a few weeks then chucked it. SAMe with college. His mum let him lie in bed all day so dh started phoning him early, taking him out on jobs with him to motivate him to get up, showered etc but he just has no passion or drive. His sister is the opposite, she has her whole life mapped out, when she wants something she makes it happen lol.

@ZoeTurtle he had one though! He had found one and he got fed up and chucked it! Dh got him an interview with his work (electricity company) brilliant starting wage and he just wasn’t interested and didn’t go. I got him an interview at a chip shop before Covid, good hours, we offered to let him live with us cos it was closer to us. Wasn’t interested. I was emailing the boss all afternoon saying my dss would be great at this etc I was so embarrassed when I had to email back and say he wasn’t interested.

Btw it sounds like I don’t like my dss, I do I love them both, I am only 9 years older than my dss so most of the time we are more like mates, but he refers to me as his step mum and gets me cards on mother’s day etc so sometimes the relationship probably gets a bit blurred but I do try my best with him. He’s always welcome here, I’ve told both of them that. Several times.

@Doublefaced we are in Scotland so no uni fees, just travel and lunches, books etc.

@Doublefaced sorry, and when lives with her bf and his mum. Ex gives some of the maintenance to bfs mum to pay for dsd since she’s not Living at home now

@Doublefaced the son dh and I have is disabled so will probably never leave home sadly. Btw if dss phoned today and asked to come stay I absolutely would say yes, they both have a bedroom here, and tbh they are brilliant with their little brother and he adores them which makes me love them even more. I just don’t want dss to waste his life, I sometimes I feel like I did that, I dropped out of uni when I was pregnant and I regret it sometimes, despite being happy now, I know I could have done better and dss is a clever guy.

@Doublefaced dsd has a job and receives money from us and her mum, she’s fine she’s doing grand.

@connie I asked him to come live with us and found that wee job for him but his mum
Didn’t think it was a good idea and he just kinda agreed so that was the end of that.

@combatbarbieno it’s hasn’t, it has been the same for years, when our son was born dh didn’t reduce it, it’s a private arrangement dh and his ex came to so that the ex got all the money and not the dss taking some of it.

@JanewaysBun we offered to put him on our car insurance, same as dsd is, but he never bothered to get his provisional licence. He’s just not bothered. He has found a gf recently and she seems more
Driven so hopefully she is what he needs to boost him a bit and get his finger out!

@CorianderBee I went to uni at 17 and got pregnant at 18, I had an abortion and didn’t go back to uni, went to college a year later to get my HND then started working. Met my husband at work, I was 22 he was 41, we had our ds then got married. And I occasionally regret dropping out of uni but I didn’t sit around, I went to college which suited me better.

@MaudHatter I wouldn’t need to be prepared to do anything.. .. he is an adult.

june2007 · 16/01/2021 18:27

Any money should now go direct to his kids to support them stop the maintanace.

tiredybear · 16/01/2021 18:31

I think your DH has been more than reasonable. He should contact his ex and tell her he will be stopping paying maintenance as they are both now adults, but as a courtesy he will continue paying for X months so she can get her finances in order. Then just help his kids out as and when they need it directly, like everyone else with grown up kids.
If the ex chooses to let her adult son live rent free etc at her house, that's her choice, your DH shouldn't have to pay for that.

It really does sound like the son would benefit from having to stand on his own two feet a little, before he misses out on too many opportunities due to what seems like laziness.

NamechangedHelpPlease · 16/01/2021 18:34

Adults now. If he helps them out that seems reasonable. Surely he doesn't pay for his ex wife as well...!

Gingerkittykat · 16/01/2021 18:38

It sounds like your DSS needs a kick and facing the financial realities of being on universal credit (around £300 a month right now) could do that. It could also backfire as if he lives rent free or pays a token amount to his mum then he still has a lot of money for personal spends, I would personally not be bailing him out financially as it could just prolong the situation.

What does he do all day? Does he spend time gaming or hanging out with friends or doing something productive.

What you don't want is a massive manchild leaching off his parents.

Longtalljosie · 16/01/2021 18:39

I think if you’ve supported one child to 21 you do the same with the other

Diverseopinions · 16/01/2021 18:52

CostadelCovid
You are very inspiring and brave. Great if you could give some tips to youngsters.

Doublefaced · 16/01/2021 19:31

@jollygreenpea I take it you’re not aware of the ‘See all’ function Grin

Bollss · 16/01/2021 20:04

[quote Doublefaced]@jollygreenpea I take it you’re not aware of the ‘See all’ function Grin[/quote]
Yes I think she was trying to make a point that posters like you had ignored half the posts and made up your own story Grin

caringcarer · 16/01/2021 20:20

He carried on paying whilst they were in full time education which is what law requires. It is reasonable he continues to help out his DC with occasional money and gifts. No need to give any more money to ex though unless he wants to. His son needs a kick up the bum to get him going. If he goes back into full time education your DH will have to support him though.

jollygreenpea · 16/01/2021 20:56

@jollygreenpea I take it you’re not aware of the ‘See all’ function

Yes I think she was trying to make a point that posters like you had ignored half the posts and made up your own story

You're both correct Grin

savethegiblets · 16/01/2021 22:19

He is going to go and speak to her tomorrow. I told him she needs to know where she stands financially, so she can get any direct debits etc sorted. I have also just realised something, dss has been down south with his gf since October, so neither of them have been living in the house for about 3 months!

OP posts:
MissMarpleDarling · 17/01/2021 00:23

Of course it's ok not to pay child maintenance for 2 adults op! Stop the payments.

MissMarpleDarling · 17/01/2021 00:27

Id be asking for a backdated refund from when they each moved out if that's the case.

BillMasen · 17/01/2021 10:57

@MissMarpleDarling

Id be asking for a backdated refund from when they each moved out if that's the case.
No one is that petty durely
BillMasen · 17/01/2021 10:57

Surely

Bookriddle · 17/01/2021 11:15

No wonder my generation get called entitled and expect stuff for free, going by some of these responses on this thread!

People expecting the husband to pay for his lazy arse 21 year old, im 4 years older than him, jave worked since i was 19, show him some tough love