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Ds (13) sobbing uncontrollably about lack of hobbies and talents - where have gone wrong

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looseddaughter · 02/01/2021 22:57

Ds1 (13) has just gone to bed after a good 90 mins of ranting and sobbing over his perceived lack of hobbies and talents. He was as upset as I have ever seen him and it was horrible.

It started as I told him he'd had enough laptop for the day when he said he was going to his room and he said there was nothing else to do and it spiralled from there. We have had a pretty shit holiday in the sense that we've been in most days (isolated for a week and then obviously not a lot you can do in tier 4) so I don't know if there's an element of boredom after having been pent up but it did seem deeper.

He keep saying whatever he does there are 'people 10 steps ahead of me,' and 'I just want a hobby I can do that I'm good at and enjoy...a talent.' This was all through sobs. To be honest, it's true that he doesn't really have a hobby. He loves reading but only ever wants to do it just before bed, obviously enjoys his laptop and is a history fanatic so uses it for research, documentaries and history- based computer games. He doesn't do lego, likes the odd boardgame and doesn't do any sport except cricket, which was a nightmare last season as despite doing brilliantly in training he had a few nightmare games and did silly things like running himself out. I know he felt shit at the end of the season.

I think he tends to give up on things as soon as they're difficult. He bought some figures, again, history based, last year that needed painting and after the initial enthusiasm he got fed up of how fiddly it was and left it. Same thing happened with model making a couple of years ago. He got really into cycling last year but then seemed to just go right off it - not really sure why. He just gets these initial bursts of enthusiasm and then everything peters into nothingness. It doesn't help that he seems quite limited socially, even Covid aside, and despite having friends in school and telling me about them he rarely interacts with them outside school. Before lockdown never went out with them unless it was a party and now rarely online with them.

He's academically able and in top sets for everything with a real flair I'd say for English and humanities. I don't know if this is part of the problem as in a lot of things come quite easily to him then when something doesn't he just stops. He plays clarinet but has no real enthusiasm for it and moans endlessly about practising but insists he wants to carry on when I ask. Today he was crying about making no progress in it and I did explain (nicely) that he does the bare minimum practice so what does he expect? I was trying to say people with 'talents' or hobbies are prepared to spend hours on them and that's how they get good, which he doesn't do really, aside from cricket, which still didn't go well. He asked for a guitar last year but again had no interest in it really and it has barely been touched for months.

Earlier we'd watched a French crime drama with subtitles because he loves the genre and I casually suggested it as I like them and he's doing French at school. He's in Y9 and getting what the school call 'grades 7-9', so doing really well. However, he got really upset and said he couldn't hear any of the words he was supposed to know. I tried to explain that was to be expected but he kept saying how hard it was then mentioned a boy in his class who gets full marks every time and has apparently read LOTR in French.

I just don't know how to handle this. On the one hand I obviously don't want to pressure him and don't want him comparing himself to others in an unhealthy way, but on the other hand I kind of do think a hobby would do him good and have often felt he could do with sticking at things a bit more but I don't know how to approach it. Cricket is the thing he has devoted most time and energy to and, as I said, it doesn't really seem to have paid off. I was also trying to get across that hobbies aren't necessarily about excelling at something but are about enjoyment, but I think that's hard for him to get, especially where sport is concerned.

I also feel the usual guilt as his dad and I are divorced and I feel that disadvantages him because of living between two houses etc. Dad is a musician but has never got involved with the music practice and I feel ds is keeping it on to please his dad but also won't ask him for help. I don't really have hobbies, or not ones that are active - just things like reading, watching films, travel... not things where I actually do anything so not a good role model. Don't know - feel we have let him down and really don't know how to help.

OP posts:
caringcarer · 04/01/2021 18:36

My foster son has additional needs finds school hard but is brilliant at cricket. Through.lockdown he had 2 X 1-1 lessons each week in the nets with a level 3 coach and has made amazing progress. In his debut adult match he got 5 wickets for 21 runs off 6 overs. It was a poor season last summer but better than none. Any batman can get run out or make a mistake and get out but practice with a good coach will prove his technique. Also does he play chess? Foster son went from level 0 to level 8 during lockdown. Now plays against people on line. He enjoys karate, trampolining, running and swims competitively. Sounds like your son needs more outdoors time. It is uplifting.

DreamTheMoors · 04/01/2021 18:36

I was like your son, trying and then getting bored of many different things, @looseddaughter.

The most valuable words my mum ever said to me and made me stick to, actually, were “don’t be a quitter.” If I decided I wanted to take up something, I had to actually stick with it - until I had exhausted all possibilities of making sure I wouldn’t like it. Usually she set the limit at 6 to 8 months to a year before she’d allow me to quit, unless there was some extraordinary reason (such as illness) that I could not continue.
I’ve come away with a great love for my hobbies as a result.
Just a thought.

Brockaslass · 04/01/2021 18:38

If he is into history has he though about attending historic re-enactments they are great and he can work at costumes etc, research while he's not there. There's a lot of groups online that you could look at

bigmumsymcgraw · 04/01/2021 18:49

Get him out doors. Go for half hour walk each day You will be get a chance to chat, get him off screen. You can then build a picture and find out whats up. Hes full of hormones so dont worry too much

lorisparkle · 04/01/2021 19:13

Sorry, have not read all the messages. Ds3 loves cycling. His cycle club is doing zoom rides together.

The other option would be scouts - ds3 is doing zoom meetings with the group.

However all my ds are spending far too much time on tech!

Thinkingthinking · 04/01/2021 19:15

I’ve not read the entire thread so don’t know if this has come up already but I found ‘The book you wish your parents had read’ helpful in reframing how to praise and encourage children.

Rather than saying - You’re so clever or that’s so great (as we all do) it’s better to praise the effort. Then it takes the pressure off having to be good at something immediately and doing it more for enjoyment. It also helps to foster creativity as children will be more willing to take risks and experiment without fear of getting it ‘wrong’.

Don’t beat yourself up though you’re clearly doing an amazing job and like others have said this is the effect of a very hard and weird year.

dogsarethebestpeople · 04/01/2021 19:25

Your boy sounds wonderful. 13 is a horrible age to be in a normal year! Lots of cuddles and listening needed (as you are doing). My teen sounds similar and has got a lot out of podcasts plus dungeons and dragons. Good luck op.

FuckTheLemons · 04/01/2021 19:26

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kkwhelan · 04/01/2021 19:27

I am a teacher for that age group. This is so common especially right now. Has he been evaluated for depression? Many of our students are dealing with that. You might want to talk to his doctor.

ANP88 · 04/01/2021 19:42

Hi OP

I haven’t read all the thread, but you are not alone! I’m pretty sure this is common amongst many kids, and sounds just like my ds.

I have let ds quit after lots of hobbies, but some I insist upon, so don’t let him quit cricket or cycling.

Maybe arrange a day you both cycle together? Or even just do yoga in the lounge, or go for a walk. Unfortunately, there are little or no clubs for him to join right now, so online stuff is kind of inevitable. Don’t stress about it. Instead, get him to google places you can visit in the future, such as museums, national trust parks, monasteries, battlefields etc. That will pique his interest and give him a distraction and something to look forward to.

Children follow our example, so if you read a lot, so will he. If you walk lots, so will he. You could think about a hobby you can do together like painting or something.

Do listen to him and empathise. He probably wants your love and attention more than a hobby right now.

Someone mentioned air cadets. I loved this when I was young. Definitely look into it.

Good luck! Sounds like you are a great parent, so don’t stress too much x

Tzimi · 04/01/2021 19:50

@looseddaughter It sounds as though he has quite a few potential great hobbies, but just lacks motivation to keep on trying. Unfortunately, it's just one of those realities that you really do have to keep on working at these things-especially playing musical instruments! You seemingly spend ages without any reward, then suddenly you get good at it. One of the things I found helpful was to have friends who shared the same interests, and working with them made it more enjoyable. Of course (I'm not wishing to sound rude here!), some people simply don't seem to enjoy a lot of things, and just do them because they think they have to! I don't understand this, as I have always just naturally enjoyed my hobbies, so need no external motivation to do them. I don't know how one can learn to enjoy something, it should just happen, if it's something you enjoy... If that makes sense? Maybe some professional advice is needed?

FrankStory · 04/01/2021 19:52

Maybe you could try something that's new to both of you, juggling perhaps? You can make juggling balls from socks filled with rice.

Notenoughchocolateomg · 04/01/2021 19:54

My 8yo son doesn't have any hobbies except gaming. I was quite into football at his age-playing not watching, but its just not his thing, which is fine. He tried a dance school as he enjoys dancing but he is quite shy so said he didn't want to go back. He's a very bright boy, but he's very much the sort that hates it if he can't take to something straight away, which I'm obviously trying to work on with him. He is a good reader but still won't sit and read to himself yet. I'm confident that will come in time though. I've asked if he wants to learn a musical instrument but he's not interested. We're not a hobby family tbh. I'm not very sociable. During lockdown they just played in the backgarden (I have a 6yo too) and we went on walks they'd often ride their bikes. More screen time than usual here too!

Celestine70 · 04/01/2021 19:54

When we are not in lockdown I would suggest play dates / sleep overs. Can hang out with a friend, ride bikes etc. He sounds lonely.

ChipmunksInAttic · 04/01/2021 21:07

I believe my son (who is 7 now) will be the same when he gets 13. I think you should not try to find or suggest new hobbies for him. Easier said than done, but I think we should find a way to teach them to be more positive. Less anxiety, more confidence. I don’t know, maybe writing down three good things everyday or such approach to set a better mood could help. I think you should focus on this, rather than helping him to find a hobby. just my two pennies...Flowers

Sfen · 04/01/2021 21:29

Try learning to play informal tennis with your DS or DD. No coaching necessary to start with. You will both get a lot of exercise and hugely improve hand eye coordination. It’s a social game from age 5 to 85. You can find free courts almost everywhere to start playing. No need to join a club to start playing.

AppleCrumbleForBreakfast · 04/01/2021 21:30

Could he start a history blog or book review blog or something related to interests he already has? Something where he gets to feel like an expert already.

Or if he wants to branch out in a non public way you could try online chess with him? We do ChessKid.com and you can play the computer. Or Words with Friends, which a type of online scrabble.

My younger kids are definitely put off sticking with things when they compare themselves with peers, so maybe this lockdown is good opportunity to strike out with no comparing... you never know...

We talk a lot about stickability and celebrate that rather than achievements. I reward their effort grades rather than their achievement grades in school for example. And sticking with the boring parts of hobbies even when they aren't always fun - conditioning in gymnastics etc.

It's a tough one, for sure. Good luck with it all. x

Teenagekicks21 · 04/01/2021 21:33

My ds was very similar. I know it's not for everyone but he really found himself when he joined army cadets. OK so impossible at the minute but something to work towards maybe? He's
had multiple opportunities to work towards personal goals that are totally achievable but challenging, is well supported to do Duke of Edinburgh, regular trips away that he comes back from knackered but happy. A new group of friends of various ages, peers (both male and female) and role models to look up to, I'm a single mum also and find this really helpful. They push you to get the best for yourself but also, maybe in this day and age more importantly, to work as a team. It's also heavily subsided so uniform provided, trips away very cheap and a token weekly subscription, 50p!!! I think with the right leaders cadets is brilliant for teenagers and definitely isn't there for recruiting to an army career.

caringcarer · 04/01/2021 22:24

In first lockdown we dreaded it because all of foster sons hobbies were sports and Scouts. During lockdown not only he taught himself to play chess and get good at it he also started his D of E Bronze Award. He used chess as new skill, litter picking and recycling as volunteering and karate, running 2k around lake everyday as physical. He just has to do Expedition which he can't do until one is available to him. He has learned to bake as well. We no longer dread this lockdown. When he heard Boris say no school he just looked up and said I learn lots at home with you so that is ok.

cassie0207 · 04/01/2021 22:37

How about teaching him cooking, would help him life long and you can get involved too !

Mumofthreeteenagers · 04/01/2021 23:57

I agree re a lot of other posters. Look at other stuff. Cooking has been fab for my 17yo son as he finding ways of coping with the stress through challenging new food. He also doing mire walking and cycling. The ordnance survey have apps for 18pd and helps find new routes to keep interest. My dd has found she can draw and paint, so thats helping too. Then gardening. I challenged them both to grow pips and seeds from fruit. They have taken the challenge and we have tons of lemon, apple, advocado and grapefruit seedlings. They arent as easy as you think. Also, helps with schooling as learning through doing. Then the c25k challenge has helped and is great to follow.
I also have dc who like to be experts from get go. I have had to really work on this with encouragement, showing how far they have come etc. And really rating what they have achieved. And also not quit stuff myself to show perseverance pays off! I too dont let them quit too soon. Eg, roughly a year at music before saying i give in!

Tzimi · 05/01/2021 06:14

@cassie0207 Good idea, cooking is tremendous fun & a very useful skill!

Sinful8 · 05/01/2021 06:21

Motorbikes they're fun, easy and it really doesn't matter how "good" you are as on the road it's pointless.

So my vote is teenage depression untill 17 Confused

Tzimi · 05/01/2021 06:24

Another very interesting & absorbing hobby is genialogy- although young people aren't always interested in this. Using websites like MyHeritage and FamilySearch, you can look up details of relatives such as births, marriages & deaths & you can construct a family tree. You can also upload pictures to your tree, which really brings it to life. I found this immensely helpful whilst trying to unravel my own family relationships! Here's a link to FamilySearch... www.familysearch.org/en/

SallyB392 · 05/01/2021 07:09

It sounds to me like healthy teenage angst, added with a healthy frustration and fear of what's going on around us.
From what you have said, he DOES have hobbies, more so than the average lad of his age.
My children are all grown up now, but what I did learn as a parent was that the children who achieved outside school, had parents actively involved. My youngest was a musician, and until she was older had a pony. When I wasn't working,I was traipsing round the country, the proverbial truck driver with a variety of instruments, and youngsters in the back, or cleaning tack and bagging up manure.......a break was an hour in Tesco! This isn't a criticism, and I'm not sure how parents can support youngsters at thethe moment, but would he enjoy playing clarinet as a part of orchestras or bands outside of school? Most areas have youth music schools on Saturdays which are fun. What about history clubs? Adults welcome youngsters in to history clubs.
But my guess I s that he will be fine now that he's let off steam!