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To decide my husband and his sister are nuts?

178 replies

Rosebel · 31/12/2020 00:10

SIL phones today (before BJ announcement) and says how nice it would be to go away as a family once Covid is under control.
My husband agrees with her and then they proceed to discuss going away in April next year. My SIL says she'll look for some deals online.
When my husband tells me this I said they're mad. I'd love to think everything will be normal by April but isn't it unrealistic? I told him he'd better make sure if she books something we're guaranteed a refund if we can't go. He got moody saying I'm being miserable for not wanting to go on holiday and that with the new vaccine of course things will be normal.
I text my SIL (as my husband obviously wasn't going to) saying lovely idea but make sure we can get a refund just incase. She hasn't replied two hours later so she's probably on a mood too.
Surely it's really unreasonable to plan anything for 2021 yet?
YABU it's fine to plan a holiday
YANBU don't plan anything yet

OP posts:
LouiseTrees · 31/12/2020 00:14

My husband did the math. At the current rate of vaccinations and needing two doses etc it will take 4 years for everyone to be covered. I mean clearly they will ramp up from current rate but I wouldn’t be banking on April being “normal”.

Thedogscollar · 31/12/2020 00:17

We will be nowhere even near normal by April. YANBU, they are though.

Icanflyhigh · 31/12/2020 00:20

YANBU they are wishful thinking.

Chloemol · 31/12/2020 00:22

YANBU

Cheeseycheeseycheesecheese · 31/12/2020 00:24

On one hand I think it's nice they want to make plans so there is something to look forward to, however it's not only unreasonable, but highly silly to not ensure its a refundable booking.

ExtraOnions · 31/12/2020 00:24

TBH I’m looking at, and talking about holidays ... it’s helping to lift my mood. Maybe it’s a fantasy, but it like window shopping

MeMarmiteYouJam · 31/12/2020 00:25

I booked a cottage holiday for April, back in the heady days of summer. I don't think I would have been quite so bold to book it now, and I'm not sure what to do about it...

smurfy19 · 31/12/2020 00:27

We have a cruise booked for June 2021 which we booked back in October 2019. We had been so excited as neither my Dh or I have been abroad in our whole lives so this was a way to do it since my dh won’t fly and out dc’s are 13, 11 and 10 so we felt they would be old enough to enjoy and remember this holiday of a lifetime for us. We have prepared the DC’s to expect that we will not be going and will be VERY surprised if it goes ahead! We would need some sort of miracle imho! Definitely make sure there is a Covid guarantee or some form of protection.

katy1213 · 31/12/2020 00:28

And just assuming it were all back to normal - would you really want your first holiday to be with your in-laws?

Cherrysoup · 31/12/2020 00:48

YANBU. I think that’s overly optimistic of your dh and now he’s being immature about your very realistic caution.

Jonnywishbone · 31/12/2020 00:50

I think travel will be back in April again. It won't be the end of Covid but people will travel.

TheCrowsHaveEyes · 31/12/2020 00:56

There's a massive difference between idly chatting about a holiday and jumping to immediately booking it and paying for it. I wouldn't assume I had to text SIL straight away on the strength of one conversation. So YABU and so is your DH.

SilverBirchWithout · 31/12/2020 01:06

As long as you have adequate Covid insurance, I can’t see why you wouldn’t make a holiday booking. Although I’d personally not want to go an plane until things are better under control.
We had an Airbnb booking for a holiday cottage in November - it was refunded immediately when tiers were announced. We’ve got tickets booked for the Malvern show in May - fully refundable if there are issues.

grapewine · 31/12/2020 01:09

He's wanting some normality and hope, and I completely get that. But April is unrealistic, I think.

Itsnotlikethiswithotherpeople · 31/12/2020 01:11

People went on holiday in the summer and October so definitely possible but I think April is a little soon. By summer I’d imagine people will be holidaying again.

Mulhollandmagoo · 31/12/2020 01:11

YANBU! I think people should be cautious to plan any travelling for at least the 1st half of next year (I am hoping and praying though, because we we have a UK break booked for April and I haven't cancelled yet just incase) and anything you do book would be wise to get watertight travel insurance, not sure why that's offended them so much? I imagine they'd soon be up in arms if the trip was cancelled and they lost money though? Am I right?

Taikoo · 31/12/2020 01:13

You'll be lucky if you get away on holidays in April 2022 at this rate.
Your sister is nuts.
YANBU.

Taikoo · 31/12/2020 01:16

Your DH is a dickhead too.

YerWanIsGettinNotions · 31/12/2020 01:21

Even if they vaccinate 1m people a week...

...that's 66m people, some of whom will be born and some of whom will die, so realistically 70+ weeks to get up to speed, not accounting for production shortages, delays in transport and delivery end, staff shortages.

Roll out has barely started now. I think mid-2022 for a return to what we see on the surface at least as normal life, and 2025 before the effects start to fade and 2020 starts to become a scar rather than a wound.

BluebellsGreenbells · 31/12/2020 01:23

UK - lots of access to the vaccine, time delay in giving it out. No real immunity until a fair number have been vaccinated.

Now imagine other countries, after all you’ll be mingling with the locals and probably other nations.

What are their vaccination programs like?

I should imagine a cruise with lots of elderly people all vaccinate would be a safe-ish bet

People under 50 with new stains and few vaccinated? I doubt it!

Airlines are already requesting vaccinations prior to travel.

Other countries have closed borders, more than likely they will want their population vaccinated prior to allowing unvaccinated UK citizens access.

psychomath · 31/12/2020 01:23

One of my friends is on holiday abroad now (yes really), so I don't think April is necessarily unrealistic. A refundable booking would definitely be a good plan though!

ekidmxcl · 31/12/2020 01:31

Crazy. Cases are rising at a ridiculous rate and the vaccinations are moving at a snail’s pace. We are in the shit! For the majority of 2021.

Mossang3l · 31/12/2020 01:37

Idk. Everyone’s talking about getting back to ‘normality’ but summer wasn’t normal but it’s was fine and manageable, with the vaccine and timeframe I think things will be looking better in April, although not normal

CoffeeCreamandSugar · 31/12/2020 01:40

I don’t think you are being unreasonable at all

Linnet · 31/12/2020 01:54

I’m not planning on booking anything for next year. Our dd is supposed to be going on a trip, postponed from this year so dh and I were going to have a holiday while she was away, but I don’t see any of that happening. I’m too worried that if we booked something it might be cancelled at the last minute etc.

However today, well yesterday now, my in laws flew out to The Gambia for New Years. All they had to do was take a COVID test 72 hours before to prove they were negative and they got to go.