To have found Harry&Meghans NY podcast quite uplifting

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(And it was v cute to hear Archie speaking also)

Just that really. Yes there was some cheesy bits with some speaker talk of “nourishment” (cringe) by reading children’s books, but most of it was good and positive. Nice mix of contributors. Well done Harry & Meghan.

Well Diana "sells" doesn't she? Same as withholding their child and wheeling him out to draw attention every now and then,

How can Harry not see how hypocritical it is to use Diana’s image to sell his brand

Speechless!

I am my mother’s son

Yeah, and she was trapped by marriage as well.

I really hope the Queen stays alive for another decade. You know these two would milk grannies funeral for all it’s worth. The same Queen who is also mother of sons and daughters and head of an organisation that tangibly supports over 3,000 charities but without making it all about her.

@mymadpuppy

None of the royal family are known for any superior intelligence. Nor have any made any special achievements, yet they're revered as if they have.

The Duke of Edinburgh was a highly capable naval officer who may well have made First Sea Lord on merit if it hadn't been for the untimely death of his father in law. He was Mentioned in Despatches for his actions at the Battle of Matapan and gained the Greek War Cross of Valour. He later commanded a frigate.

Oh you've managed to find one. Any in the actual family rather than who married into it.

And I must have missed the bit about his intellect.

@mymadpuppy

And I must have missed the bit about his intellect.

You don't think his military achievements are indicative of a sharp, quick, analytical, intelligent mind? As for "intellect" you didn't say that in your post, you said intelligence, of which there are many kinds.

Stop nit picking. My original post said they aren't known for having any super intelligence. Most people would probably agree. However you felt the need to desperately think of just one who might qualify.....just to be difficult I presume.

First Sea Lord is the best job title I’ve ever heard.

I don’t think they need superior intelligence. Their “ job” is to represent Britain to the best of their abilities.
There are tonnes of fabulously wealthy people out there and most who have no allegiance to anything aside from their wealth. Harry and Meghan now fall into that category.
I’m not sure we are better served by a couple with their own personal vision of what makes a brighter world or one that’s part of an institution that only exists to fulfil its duty to its people?

@mymadpuppy

Stop nit picking. My original post said they aren't known for having any super intelligence. Most people would probably agree. However you felt the need to desperately think of just one who might qualify.....just to be difficult I presume.

Nit picking? In what way? You asserted there were no intelligent royals, you were given one. You then changed the wording of your post to a requirement for an "intellectual" royal rather than just an "intelligent" royal and so I responded to that. That's just called a discussion isn't it?

Also it wasn't me who provided him as an example it was @DdraigGoch.

Oh who cares, was it really worth mentioning the vile racist Philip as an example of intelligence amongst the royal family. You had to trawl the depths to get that one didn't you. Good grief, what's up, couldn't bear the thought of the precious ones being described that way?

I suspect that they will be popular in America as they don't seem to have the same schmaltz aversion as the British.

I find it all rather embarrassing and very gauche. Harry I would have thought would have a better understanding of British cynicism and I am surprised that Megan doesn't perceive it.

I wish they were better advised. The thing about Diana(, and I was never a huge fan, ) is that she was actually there hugging aids victims, walking in minefields. She wasn't sat at home safely, preaching. It's a mis step from the British pov but as I say I expect the Americans will be more forgiving.

@mymadpuppy

Stop nit picking. My original post said they aren't known for having any super intelligence. Most people would probably agree. However you felt the need to desperately think of just one who might qualify.....just to be difficult I presume.

My original post said they aren't known for having any super intelligence.

The intelligence appears to be lacking at the lower level, far less the super level. Everyone accepts that. That’s probably why when the lightweights pontificate, we are disinclined to listen and more inclined to be scornful.

@mymadpuppy

Oh who cares, was it really worth mentioning the vile racist Philip as an example of intelligence amongst the royal family. You had to trawl the depths to get that one didn't you. Good grief, what's up, couldn't bear the thought of the precious ones being described that way?

Well, again, I didn't trawl anything or come up with anything. That was a different poster. I just joined in a discussion. Being from a military background myself I found the assertion of his intelligence around military matters interesting and agreed with it.

You sound like you just don't like being disagreed with or proved wrong tbh. And you cared enough to post in the first place 🤷🏼‍♀️

Thewinterofdiscontent No I wasn't implying they NEEDED superior intelligence, heaven forbid, . I was meaning that people grovel before them as if they're of superior intellect. They're in their exalted position position purely through the accident of birth......

Well you cared enough too didn't you, you being of a military background is irrelevant to what I said. None of them are known for superior intelligence. His serving in the navy doesn't change my mind on that. Why do you have a problem with that, I didn't say he was stupid, but he's not that clever that people should hang on to their every word, as they do.
Though how anyone can defend or bull up a vile racist is beyond me.

I dorn find what they said nauseating or cringe or word salad.

They are right the world does need kore compassion and dare I add kindness. Esp since last yr where the media have been pittinf groups of ppl against each other if it hasn't been been the protecting old vs young ppl, then its been private sector vs public sector, down to money for employed vs self employed

Everything is geared towards division

I cant blame them for wanting out of being senior royals being restricted in what they wanted to do just because of a position and moreso seeing how someone like Andrew is being protected. They stepped away from all the constant media attention thats been very nasty to try and gain a bit of privacy back, who can blame them for wanting a bit of it back to be turned down a notch. Privacy can means different things its not back and white.

I just look at this thread and its sad to see how people can hate other people who on face of it haven't done anything horrific, they haven't killed, abused anyone or any manner of other horrible things that would make you actually hate someone.

And yes mechanical is right to speak out about effects of social media, too many incidences occurring with young people, our own children feeling suicidal cos of trolls saying horrible things on posts etc.

The more people bring attention to this the better. Why are we now living in a world where all this nastiness is thriving

And someone laughed about the word humane technology, you do realise eveb Microsoft a year ago have a thing going called humans in IT or something like that. Massive corporation such as them are talking about human technology and technology being used for good yet you wouldn't laugh at them would you but perfectly okay to laugh at her for saying it.

I bet most of you who have said nasty things, is that would you teach your child to be like? To be nasty to people they might not know in real life and to judge them? Is that what you would what your child to go through...

Think about that

Well coming at M&Hs content from a position of living in shit HA accommodation with very little money, poor health and being a member of an ethnic minority group I found it as uplifting as reading the journal of a ideological, naive teen who believes they can change the world. And not just any teen but an immensely privileged teen living in a whacking great staffed mansion with people to attend to all the nitty gritty of life. It’s insulting. It’s patronising and it’s a load of nothingness.

I think the press treated megan poorly and we don't know if things were true or not, if they were true then she is responsible for some of her own downfall as is Harry equally.
But two very privileged people cannot imagine what life is like for many and should actually acknowledge that .
If they really want to go it alone they need to loose their titles and just be harry and megan but they will always struggle to keep their son-out of spotlight, just to who they are. As well as making podcasts etc and keeping themselves out there
Media always wants pictures and stories of anyone in spotlight no matter who they upset to get them

Also as most priviledge people who speak about its unfair etc funny how most don't choose to give it up though or share it with others

They might come from a privileged background as you say but there will always be someone is who is more privileged than you regardless there will never be a world where everyone starts the same.

I might be as privileged as them but im just as rich for at least being a kind person and not hating and judging others 🤷 thats makes me all the richer I think when you can be kind and compassionate to everyone regardless of their status or wealth

Although everyone who listens even if they don't like them
Or what they are doing etc puts the numbers up and thats what will keep them there as long as many listen they will continue to do

I just look at this thread and its sad to see how people can hate other people who on face of it haven't done anything horrific, they haven't killed, abused anyone or any manner of other horrible things that would make you actually hate someone.

Has anyone actually said they hate them. People can hate the concept of a monarchy without actually hating an individual. As for them never having done anything horific......they don't exactly have a glorious past do they, and their indifference to poverty in the UK whilst they quite happily take huge chunks from the public purse is far worse than people on here having a justifiable grumble about them.

Talking about abuse, let's not forget the queen's favourite son....the beloved Andrew.

To me, their unique selling point is that they used to be members of the royal family. Therefore, i would only be interested in listening to their podcast if they were going to speak out their once privileged royal lifestyles (the good and the bad) or maybe about Meghan’s struggles as an actress and the glamour of her Hollywood lifestyle. I actually found The Tig an interesting read and would enjoy Meghan doing her own podcast in a similar manner. She can be quite entertaining when she’s talking about a passion but not being self righteous.

But the current podcast is just a bit meh to me. I can find this kind of content elsewhere, things that actually matter or are relevant to me and my life, but also spoken by professionals with lots of experience on the matter at hand. I’m happy that H&M are passionate about their beliefs and they want to make a difference but it’s difficult to be preached at by people who live a very privileged lifestyle. The stories are about real life people, which is interesting, but again, I can find that content elsewhere and usually accompanied by research and analysis from doctors, sociologists, activists etc. It kind of feels like, why do we specifically need Harry and Meghan to tell us this?

I might be willing to listen if they get some good guest stars, but from what I’ve heard of it, it’s too sickly sweet and trite for my liking. I do like to follow the rule that I will watch/listen/read something three times (eg episodes/chapters) before I decide to disengage with it so will probably give it another go.

Archie is adorable but it feels odd that they are so protective about his privacy and want him to be a private citizen yet put him in their podcast when he isn’t old enough to consent to the publicity.