To feel relieved that it’s not a no-deal outcome!

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Whether you’re Remain or Leave the fact is that Brexit is going ahead. I was genuinely scared of a no-deal outcome especially after the weird 2020 we have had.

I don’t know the full details of the deal but I’m just glad that there is a deal rather than no-deal at all. Anyone else feel the same?

Brexit: Boris Johnson hails free trade deal with EU

At least that’s something. I was worried about trading under WTO rules.

Thoughts?

I’m glad because one client was facing an estimated £1m in additional costs on 3 construction projects if we had switched to WTO tariffs. That’s one client, and just my projects. If you multiply that cost up, just on U.K. construction projects, the lost cost to the economy the number is huge.

Yep, I’m delighted. Onwards and upwards now.

@SabrinaThwaite

Handy table from the EC Commission to compare EU membership to the Johnson’s Fabulous New Deal.

Thanks. That makes grim reading

(love your username btw)

I wonder if the UK will produce a similar table but with its own interpretation?

The U.K. version would just have nonsense about freedom (from what?) & sovereignty (had it anyway).

I prefer a deal to no deal but await the details.

Remember it is a deal for no tariffs, not the same as would have been the arrangements if we had remained or had the Norway type agreement. It will still be a barrier to business but just less than no deal.

Avoiding looking at the details as too depressing over Xmas.

Agree with pp, this is typical tory last minute manufactured saving the day on Christmas eve crap to make us think we've got a good deal.

we have people in all over Christmas and new year trying to sort out this last minute mess on how our production sites and distribution centres will move goods around between NI, ROI, UK, EU and ROW.

The deal sucks! Although completely agree it is better than no deal. But still. The UK industry will have to comply with all EU regulations in order to export to what is its biggest market but gets no say over these regulations. It is an absolute joke really.

But I enjoyed watching a very dignified speech from Ursula con see Leyen against the international joke that is Boris Johnson. I cannot even begin to imagine who votes for him.

Damn autocorrect * von der Leyen.

Brexit: Selling it as a big win on both sides of the Channel

“But you'd have to have been half-asleep (or halfway through a bottle of eggnog, cava or pint of Glühwein) to miss the stark difference in tone between UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's triumphalist announcement on Thursday afternoon and the sombre statement by the European Commission.

“For Mr Johnson, 1 January heralds some kind of rebirth for the UK outside the EU.

“For Brussels, this whole negotiating process has been - as summed up today by Finland's Europe minister - a damage limitation exercise.”

I hope Boris kept the receipt because I don’t like his sodding Christmas Present to the Nation and I want a sodding refund.

Can we join the EU now please?

@chomalungma

I wonder if the UK will produce a similar table but with its own interpretation?

This one with its “table of victories” you mean?

www.scribd.com/document/489048219/Government-Analysis-of-the-Deal-Document

Tee hee.

@EmmaGrundyForPM

I’d vote for you!

The UK industry will have to comply with all EU regulations in order to export to what is its biggest market but gets no say over these regulations

No change there!

In so far as severe self-harm is preferable to suicide, yes, I’m relieved that we have a deal. But we have lost so much, and become so much poorer in so many ways that I can’t be happy about any of this.

Brexit is a tragedy for the U.K. and for Europe.

Can we join the EU now please?

It begins.

@PicsInRed

Can we join the EU now please?

It begins.

I think it’s over.

Boris owns this. As does Cameron for permitting the referendum.

There’s a chance it will go well. Better international trade deals outside Europe? It’s possible.

The UK industry will have to comply with all EU regulations in order to export to what is its biggest market but gets no say over these regulations

This comment is bugging me 😅

If you export to any country, you need to abide by their standards. It's not a new thing?

All the fuss over fish and yet by 2026 43% of cod caught in UK waters will be by EU boats, currently 47%.

Seems like Mr Johnson and his negotiating team did cave in, despite what was said yesterday.

@MrsMiaWallis it can bug you all you like. It doesn't detract from the fact that the UK used to have a say on the regulations that affected the majority of its exports and now does not.

PigletJohn We could trade with all countries, but now we have the ability to trade better, either through deals or through removing tariffs that don't help the EU (such as wine, and assuming you think tariffs are beneficial).
Many deals can be done with African countries, which may not be huge to the UK, but could be very beneficial to removing people from poverty and much better than aid spending.
Dogsandbabies Given that the majority of our exports are not to the EU, that is misleading. Also the EU do not have identical rules anyway, there are some differences in motor vehicle rules across the EU.

[quote Dogsandbabies]@MrsMiaWallis it can bug you all you like. It doesn't detract from the fact that the UK used to have a say on the regulations that affected the majority of its exports and now does not. [/quote]
Yeah, but we’ve taken back control ... it’s sovereignty innit?

@Walkintal the EU does account for the majority of UK exports. Unless you are talking EU vs non EU. But when you are talking about markets the EU is the single biggest market accounting for UK exports. In fact the total exports to the EU are only slightly less than the whole of all the other exports.

@PicsInRed

It's a good outcome and a relief.

However, some inside the UK will seethe with rage that we won't receive the "punishment" which should have been ours - the purification by pain.

While others will be spewing “see, it’s not that bad, PROJECT FEAR” gloating...

I think it was obvious there was going to be a deal once there was that agreement to extend the deadline. The stakes were too high for either side to walk away without a deal.

On the UK side, the cost of a no deal Brexit was obviously too high, and it would have destroyed BoJo’s credibility after all his talk about an ‘oven ready deal’. And on the EU side, they needed a satisfactory outcome, as there is a lot of business taking place between their member states, particularly Germany, and the UK.

All the rest was very clearly posturing, particularly on Boris’s part. He had to make it look like he was defending UK sovereignty at all costs.