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To be annoyed with rule breakers not taking to me

230 replies

Peahead10 · 22/12/2020 00:21

I'm in Glasgow. On Friday my friend (also in Glasgow) got the train to London and brought her 85 year old mother back with her for a 4 week visit. She missed her as have seen her for 3 months so in her eyes it's totally justifiable,. I miss my parents as do millions of others but for the good of the bigger picture and not being selfish bastards we don't all go and visit them and being them across the UK especially when we know not to travel. Shouldn't have left Glasgow area at all and only just did it before it became illegal. Group of friends now not talking to me as they think I'm the selfish one for not understanding she was missing her mum. I'm missing my mum but not seen her for 9 months so far. I'm so upset and just wondering if I'm being wrong. Know people need to do what works for them but surely this is too far?

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Justa47 · 25/12/2020 09:05

@Bookworming

I said probably. You I have said stronger too as why would you be so wound up if you were not? Why would you insist on saying I watched when I said I saw or noticed neighbours? Why do you think it’s ok to stand by when people break the law? Do have you own limit on that? Is assault ok to watch?

I am saying also that people think they don’t break the rules to because they think it does not matter or they don’t know them.

Justa47 · 25/12/2020 09:09

@Bookworming

Anyway your house is getting up so have a lovely day

Bookworming · 25/12/2020 09:11

Why do you think it’s ok to stand by when people break the law? Do have you own limit on that? Is assault ok to watch?

What have you done about that though? You keep ignoring that question! @Justa47

And for clarity your actual words were

I watched my neighbours

Justa47 · 25/12/2020 09:18

@Bookworming

Actually I did not for the neighbours who have always broken the rules at called 111.

Watched as in saw I didn’t not say what you imply which is I whilst watching my neighbours, as I think I when taking rubbish out.

So tell me what you do to ensure you do t break the rules but mean you are happy to watch it going on? Plus what is your limit for watching law breaking? Just curious.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 25/12/2020 09:37

It easier to say nothing and NOT see rule breakers
My friend and family range from total compliance to erm an elastic feeling shall we say
It’s been a year now almost
Just say nowt , it’s easier and do your own tings

Justa47 · 25/12/2020 09:54

@Thisisworsethananticpated

That’s what a lot are doing and people break the rules more and more and we have the current situation.

I know it’s hard.

People have justifications and rationalisations and no moral backbone.

PlumsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 25/12/2020 10:57

The thing is that these rules aren't ordinary laws. They are introduced with little notice and changed constantly. They affect people's lives in a most personal and fundamental way. They are impossible for the police to enforce. On Twitter legal experts spend hours arguing about what they mean and what is actually illegal as they have been so rushed out that they are full of contradictions and inconsistencies.

I actually worry they are turning people who are generally law abiding citizens into law breakers. Also that they are so intrusive that people need to disregard some parts and so end up ignoring the whole thing.

I would like to see the laws restricted to things like holding large gatherings (the type of thing the police could conceivably investigate) and the rest changed to clear guidance.

Justa47 · 25/12/2020 11:15

@PlumsAreNotTheOnlyFruit

Fair point but they are laws and in for a reason. To save lives and they are not for ever so people should follow them.

Bookworming · 25/12/2020 12:35

Actually I did not for the neighbours who have always broken the rules at called 111.

I think this is saying you did nothing? Hard to understand.

So doing nothing is acceptable, just come on here accuse random people of breaking the rules, tell them they're liars. But the actual rule breakers and you do nothing.

You're a keyboard warrior!

Justa47 · 25/12/2020 14:28

@Bookworming

Actually I did do something. I did not want to say before. Why because their are weak people like you in the world. Why do I say that. You critique and belittle people for taking a stand. I hold people to account for living by the rules that save lives.

You do zip and as I say since you appear to be an apologist for rule breakers ( might not be your intent but is the effect) I don’t believe a word you say about following them.

You are an bully.

Get a mirror look deep in side.
Change your self as every one will enjoy that.

And have a lovely day in the arms of your loving family.

Good bye.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 25/12/2020 15:37

The rules are weird and confusing which doesn’t help
For example despite tier 4 my sons football tournament went ahead ! Why ? We didn’t go
But why is that ok , when other things aren’t

Bookworming · 25/12/2020 18:39

ctually I di*d do something. I did not want to say before. Why because their are weak people like you in the world. Why do I say that. You critique and belittle people for taking a stand. I hold people to account for living by the rules that save lives.

You do zip and as I say since you appear to be an apologist for rule breakers ( might not be your intent but is the effect) I don’t believe a word you say about following them.

You are an bully.

Get a mirror look deep in side.
Change your self as every one will enjoy that.

And have a lovely day in the arms of your loving family.

Good bye.*

I think you've got a massive drink issue, you need to address it! Your posts are almost illiterate, which I presume is alcohol related?

Yes I've had a lovely day in the arms I f my loving family? Sorry what?

Bookworming · 25/12/2020 18:40

*bod fail 🙄

Bookworming · 25/12/2020 18:44

Or even bold fail!

Grin
Justa47 · 25/12/2020 18:49

@Bookworming

Well ignorance is bliss.
And I can see you are very very happy.!

MispyM · 25/12/2020 18:57

85 yo?

4 weeks?

I'd assume that there was more to it tbh and not say anything.

Bookworming · 25/12/2020 19:00

@Justa47 you're been on this thread all day long! Get a life! Not a covid one!

Justa47 · 25/12/2020 19:13

@Bookworming

If you look back I wish you an many few hours ago and you did not stop.
You failed to answer about 3 or 4 points I put to you.

So as I said ignorance is bliss.
I am see you are an extremely happy person.

Justa47 · 25/12/2020 19:13

And I see I meant

Bookworming · 25/12/2020 20:06

I am see you are an extremely happy person.

WTAF??? What are you saying here?

Facelikearustytractor · 25/12/2020 20:13

@GreenlandTheMovie

I think a lot of people don't respect the lockdown because it represents such a long term breach of the most basic human rights. The views you read in places like mumsnet are not representative.
I think this says it all really. I don't think your friend was out of order looking at the grand scheme of things. There are some people who will froth at the mouth over anything on here (then secretly break the rules themselves) I think we need to judge each other (if it is really appropriate to judge at all) over the last 9 months, not just on one occasion. We are all doing our best in a bad situation generally, so just concentrate on yourself and what you are doing. Getting wound up about other people is not going to benefit you in any way either,so you may as well ignore what other people are up to as previous posters have said.
FreshFreesias · 25/12/2020 20:14

@Justa47 Have you thought about applying to be a Corvid Marshall?

Frazzledme · 26/12/2020 01:12

They can form a support bubble, it's what we've done with my mum who drove here (150 miles) over Christmas. yes, ideally support bubbles should be local but they don't have to be, sometimes the support you need is from someone that lives far away. The train journey is a bit iffy but I can empathise.

Someone at work is spending Christmas in South America, I'm not saying it should be the race to the bottom but if you're going to pick someone to be annoyed with I'm not sure I'd pick your friend.

Justa47 · 26/12/2020 03:41

@FreshFreesias

More hassle

MoonlightFlitwick · 26/12/2020 08:43

@ChestnutStuffing that is tragic.
May I ask where you live that assisted death is permitted?

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