To be annoyed with rule breakers not taking to me

[Peahead10]

I'm in Glasgow. On Friday my friend (also in Glasgow) got the train to London and brought her 85 year old mother back with her for a 4 week visit. She missed her as have seen her for 3 months so in her eyes it's totally justifiable,. I miss my parents as do millions of others but for the good of the bigger picture and not being selfish bastards we don't all go and visit them and being them across the UK especially when we know not to travel. Shouldn't have left Glasgow area at all and only just did it before it became illegal. Group of friends now not talking to me as they think I'm the selfish one for not understanding she was missing her mum. I'm missing my mum but not seen her for 9 months so far. I'm so upset and just wondering if I'm being wrong. Know people need to do what works for them but surely this is too far?

Let me tell you a story, OP. My parents came to us for Christmas for years. In February 2014 my mum lost her mobility and our house was no longer accessible for her.

Six years ago tomorrow we packed Christmas, including a freshly cooked turkey crown, into the car and we took it to them. Four of us spent the day there, had Christmas dinner and tea, stayed until bed time and my friend and I put Mum to bed before we left. I can still see my dad’s joy at having a proper Christmas Day.

Five years ago tomorrow I was sobbing in the same friend’s arms because I missed my parents so much. He died in May 2015, she followed him in November.

The memory of that last Christmas Day has comforted me immeasurably. I’m so glad we did it. If it had been this year I wouldn’t have thought twice. Some things matter more than rules.

Your friend sounds great OP, you not so much.
People can die from loneliness and depression. Please give people’s mental health some consideration.

Thank you to all the posters who have pointed out good reasons not to express judgemental opinions to those who decide to make decisions about their behaviour and contact with other people based on considerations other than risks from Covid.
I have found them supportive as I try and cheer myself up after a receiving a message from a "friend" who tells me I should be grateful that even though I can't see my children at Christmas she "understands" (she has no children and has fallen out with her family so I don't think she does) but I should be grateful they are still alive. She also thinks we should lock down until we have all been vaccinated and " they didn't make all this fuss during the war" She wasn't born until many years after the war finished and isn't an historian so I don't know. how she knows.
Sorry about the rant.

Watching neighbours break the rules.
That two houses and I am not waiting just when I went to put the rubbish out. And 5 times when I have been out today I have heard an ambulance.

The country deserves what it gets I am sad to say. I am so sad people have no fortitude and control. They all the ink it doesn’t matter or their family is too important or it’s too much to ask.

Ask the people who tested positive today 39,000 plus, the over 500 dead and the fact our hospitals are only just below to the peak of April by like 200 nation wide.

This is serious there is not an excuse.

Had I friend of mine say here kids were off to stay with their Dad. They are in tier three and their dad in tier 4. She said it’s different for children. I pointed out they are 18 and 20!!!

Jeez. They are adults not kids!

I agree with respecting that everyone has different reasons and priorities.

I saw my elderly mum lots over this year, even though she was vulnerable and shielding and am darn glad I did.

She went into hospital for an infection, contracted Covid there and died a couple of days ago. Two years ago she nearly died from 'flu (intensive care, not a bit poorly). She knew her time was short, so did we and I treasure the time we had together this year. She hated being apart from us.

But, each to their own. I let people make up their own minds.

@Justa47

Are you enjoying spreading misery? Does telling off other people make you feel superior? Does lecturing people make you feel better about yourself by any chance?

@VinylDetective exactly. So glad you had that time to treasure. Too many people will regret all this enforced time apart.

@Stilldamngorgeous So sorry for your loss

@Blackcountryexile so tiresome isn't it! There are plenty of people who feel it isn't acceptable to make seeing family against the law. Don't let the fanatics get you down.

@Liverbird77

Well, if she drove to get her, and the lady is 85, I think she did the right thing too. Presumably she won't be out carousing for at least the first ten days of her visit, so she'll be isolating. What's the problem?

She didn't, she took the train both ways. It's in the second line of the OP.

We have travelled about 150 miles this Christmas to visit my mum who lives alone. She had pinned everything on seeing family at Christmas and has poor mental health. I have lost one immediate family member to suicide and don't want to risk it happening again. This is the second time we have seen her in the last 12 months and since March the one time we saw my mum is the only house we have been in that hasn't been ours (and no one has visited us).

People I know don't know the actual reason we've visited so they may be saying how selfish we are but my mum is at much higher risk of killing herself than dying of Covid.

@Justa47 what has hearing ambulances got to do with Covid? Perhaps they were attending suicide attempts from people so isolated they can't cope anymore,

Not everything is about Covid!

@Bookworming

As the frequency is up in terms of ambulances, there has not been a major incident here and it’s the only major change.

Rather clear.

@Justa47 not rather clear at all! You're way OTT with your obsession with Covid contributing to ambulance frequency.

I have honestly heard it all now!

I live close to a busy SL hospital and not noticed this, it's amazing you're obsessed with Covid and have noticed and attributed it too Covid!

Do you not know that people are avoiding doctors, treatment etc due to Covid, so they're then becoming really ill (not Covid related)?

Do you know how people's MH is being ruined and they're becoming suicidal.

Get help with your belief that Covid is the only cause of more ambulances!

@Justa47 also stop watching your neighbours! You're not the Covid police!

@Bookworming

Wasn’t watching but you can notice people going in with over night bags.

Why I am to blame. The rule breakers are too blame.

@Bookworming

Seriously thought it yesterday as heard far to many in one day. With no incidents near buy and the day before.

@Bookworming

Sorry to have wound you up.
I trust you are following all the rules as you see happy to give others advice and am only saying follow advice and law from the government.

Just advanced searched you @Justa47 , you love a Covid thread don't you!

Obsessed!

Get on with your own life and let people deal with theirs!

Wound me up? Says the person who is multiple posting on all Covid threads?

I'm following the rules and minding my own business, you can do both @Justa47 !

@Bookworming

You seem to be following my comments so I think it’s effecting you.
Also easy to say you are following the rules i here it hard to prove so might be BS.
Also I suspect that maybe inner guilt is effecting you so that you feel you have to have a go at me.
All I am saying is follow the rule, to cumulative effect of people not are the horrid numbers of hospitalisation and and deaths that are happening.
People breaking the rules will have a go at people like me who dare to say that in some failed way to allay their guilt.
They will use distraction strategies and so forth to say mine your own business etc.

Sad is the only word.

Not affecting me at all, I'd be worried about the effect it has on you though.

What did your neighbours say when you challenged them, or did you think it would improve things by just coming on here telling us how wrong they are?

Sad really that you're doing nothing proactive, when you feel so strongly about it.

@Bookworming

It is affecting you.
Just like you high ground of it’s ok what watch others do wrong because

A. You are doing the same or similar thing.
B. Or you don’t believe in standing up for the right thing and/or the rule of law.

I hope when someone breaks the law in a way that effects you directly or you family, you find it in your heart to think well that’s ok.

That is what Covid rule breaks need to know in Their hearts.

@Justa47 I've already said I'm not breaking the rules, did you not read that?

So are you now calling me a liar?

So how have you stood up against those breaking the rules, did you challenge your neighbours or are you just a key board warrior, deciding that people that don't agree with you are rule breaking or liars? I pity an innocent person on trial having you as a jury member!

Anyway, the house is waking up now, off to open our presents and get the turkey in the oven. (All allowed in tier 4!).

Have a fun day watching your neighbours and wringing your hands.

@Bookworming

Like I said hard to prove isn’t it on here and you apparent disrespect for people pointing out when people do frankly makes it hard for me to believe.

Ps you defo can’t read as I said noticed not watching as I was putting rubbish out. So I hope you don’t pass on anything bad as you all meet. Remember open the windows to ventilate. You might hear you neighbours going about their business. But don’t look!

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I see I'm not the only one you've accused of rule breaking on this thread!