To think more MC women should try dating WC men

[CrotchBurn]

Just realised the two happiest relationships I've had have been with working class guys. This shows my prejudice but: both were actually way less misogynistic than the MC men I went out with.

I've been with my partner who is WC for five years now. Sometimes its uncomfortable as we clash on things that we hadnt realised were pretty basic for both of us but by and large I find him much more interesting, insightful and crucially less bigoted than some of the sanctimonious pricks I've dated before, who would have a lot of "theory" but actually in practice lived in quite tight bubbles that made them prejudiced without realising it.

I feel freer with my current partner, and although he can do some "alright alright" style stuff like slapping my ass 😂 I think he is much more of an actual feminist in his actions than some of the self proclaimed "feminist" men I know who are also selfish, manipulative, and gaslighting.

Also he is very house proud (I see that as quite a working class thing) and does all the cleaning - and he takes it seriously. Meanwhile I am the higher earner and do all the cooking as I was brought up to experiment with food whereas he wasnt.

Plus - its sexy going out with a man who can build and fix stuff and repair cars and does boxing. He is a non violent person but I know if there was an apocalypse or we were attacked in the street he would sort it out.

Oh and another thing which I consider to be quite a WC thing: he always knows someone who knows someone who can get us what we need/do what we need doing as a favour.

Basically: I know it's kind of "taboo" to tall about it but AIBU to think that maybe a lot of middle class women would be happier with working class men?

@BigGreen
Did you keep the receipt?

To be fair to OP I am very on-paper MC (although practically less so, as we don’t have skiing holidays or a naice house) and I had an excellent fling with a bartender who left school at 16.

A very silly post, so I'm rhe same wein, 8d have to say my ideal man would be a dentist. Not only university edu ated in a professional subject like me, but also also practical, artistic and often to be found running their 9wn successful businesses.

Also, the dental students at uni were uniformly hot. Which is more than I can say for the average tradesman round this way.

Failing a dentist, I shall only date UC men with their own landed properties. And 9referaboy their own herd of premium beef cattle. I do like a bit of prime fillet steak. You OP clearly prefer the rump.

I'd also like a man who can buy me my own non Chinese phone witout tiny keys and better predictive text!

@GreenlandTheMovie
In what way would a dentist be artistic?!

Actually my imaginary ideal man would be a vet. Like you say, a "professional" but could with his hands. Also I'm a hypochondriac and am assuming he would also know stuff about human biology to reassure me. HOWEVER I did read somewhere that vets as a profession have very high suicide rates

My DH is as WC as they come and he can barely change a lightbulb

My husband is a medic. He put in our shower and is brilliant at tiling. Seriously - all neat around the light switches and everything. Also, he can hoover like no one else in terms of speed and dexterity. We actually have three hoovers. Also a dust free home.

@Maireas
He sounds.....ideal!

We've been together 36 years and counting!

I’m WC and my husband is MC. He’s very houseproud, brilliant cook and can make broken technology work.

Can’t DIY, though!

My husband comes from a wc background and went to uni, he didn’t settle down till late but can tile ? He is a brilliant partner.

His bro didn’t go to uni, is unable to have a debate without arguing, cannot do diy and lived at home until he was married.

I work in an industry thats traditionally wc and I work with lots of wc men. They are regularly sexist, argumentative, obsessive about cars and golf. Terrible with money and drink too much. I wouldn’t have dated anyone I met at work for 20 years. One guy I have know for 10 years I really fancied back in the day, he got married and had his first dc and told me he wouldn’t be changing nappies and that they’d just had the scan to check the baby wasn’t like retarded or whatever

Didn’t fancy him after that

Op your generalisation is just based on your lovely dh, I could make generalisations all day long about how you should date Artists who are teachers, because that’s my dh, but I know that they’re not all like mine !

I actually don’t know if dh is wc or mc. 😁🤷‍♀️

He’s good at cleaning though a bit of a hoarder. He can do plumbing, electrics, car mechanics, plastering and brick work (all self taught). But has a degree and a high paid office job. He doesn’t box but I kickbox so in the event of a zombie apocalypse I think I can fight the zombies off.

@Bigpaintinglittlepainting
Holy crap that scan comment is out there. I had no idea golf was a WC thing btw, I thought that was a nouveau riche UC thing

You seriously separate men into WC and MC boxes? I’ve honestly never even considered it before. I just dated the ones I liked and married the one I loved.

I agree with your concept but disagree that it's split working class/ middle class in this country at this time.

I think the split is more between those who went to university and those who didn't these days. As others have also picked up, those who go into trades after leaving school can be earning decent money nearly a decade earlier than their university going counterparts.

Its over a decade since I left university and it's only in the last couple of years that my friends from there (male and female) have started to get married and have children well into our 30s.

Most of my friends from home who didn't go to university have older primary school or secondary aged children.

@CrotchBurn

Just realised the two happiest relationships I've had have been with working class guys. This shows my prejudice but: both were actually way less misogynistic than the MC men I went out with.

I've been with my partner who is WC for five years now. Sometimes its uncomfortable as we clash on things that we hadnt realised were pretty basic for both of us but by and large I find him much more interesting, insightful and crucially less bigoted than some of the sanctimonious pricks I've dated before, who would have a lot of "theory" but actually in practice lived in quite tight bubbles that made them prejudiced without realising it.

I feel freer with my current partner, and although he can do some "alright alright" style stuff like slapping my ass 😂 I think he is much more of an actual feminist in his actions than some of the self proclaimed "feminist" men I know who are also selfish, manipulative, and gaslighting.

Also he is very house proud (I see that as quite a working class thing) and does all the cleaning - and he takes it seriously. Meanwhile I am the higher earner and do all the cooking as I was brought up to experiment with food whereas he wasnt.

Plus - its sexy going out with a man who can build and fix stuff and repair cars and does boxing. He is a non violent person but I know if there was an apocalypse or we were attacked in the street he would sort it out.

Oh and another thing which I consider to be quite a WC thing: he always knows someone who knows someone who can get us what we need/do what we need doing as a favour.

Basically: I know it's kind of "taboo" to tall about it but AIBU to think that maybe a lot of middle class women would be happier with working class men?

Did no one tell you it's the 21st century Goady McGoaderface. You've given me a laugh first thing though so thanks

its sexy going out with a man who can build and fix stuff and repair cars and does boxing

For you, maybe. I think it's sexy to go out with a man who can understand what Im talking about (my husband and I have both worked in the same sector).

Don't see the point of fiddling with cars when there's a perfectly good garage in the town.

My husband might be educated and downright posh, but he's pretty good at fixing most things and those he can't - get get someone who can.

Boxing. Hmm. Do not see the attraction of being with a man who beats the crap out of another man.

Op how do we know you haven’t misplaced your own class?

@SnuggyBuggy

People from similar backgrounds as a whole are probably more compatible but if you both have similar values and priorities in life it shouldn't matter what your background is.

Situations where say one wants to save for a house deposit and get a mortgage and the other wants to spend now and go on the waiting list for a council house could be tricky to compromise on.

Jesus, stereotype much.

@speakout

This shows my prejudice

Yup.

Again, yup!

Sat here waiting for the 'AIBU? My MC current partner doesn't like me slapping her arse. I'm WC btw' post....

Thinking about it the "perfect man" would come from a working class family that taught him if all of that salt of the earth practical stuff, then gone to uni and travelled thus becoming metropolitan and cultured and then gone in to a high earning job.

@Cam77

The traditional sweeping categories of Middle vs Working class actually have very little meaning today. The differences between the two have become very blurred.

There is still a hard core elite defined by their educational upbringing, wealth and cultural outlook (think Jacob Rees Mogg, Boris Johnson, Farage etc). About a third of the modern Tory Party would still fit into that. But they probably only comprise about 3% of modern Britain.

And there is still a group of 10% Britons relatively deprived of wealth and academic completion compared to all other groups.

But the middle is just a huge grey area of interlapping people. Politicians still love to riff on and set the so called Working Class against the Middle Class but is mostly bullshit to divide and conquer for the benefit of the aforementioned 3%.

This.

And as well as the politicians 'dividing and conquering', there's usually far too many people who identify as MC, conflating those who are or identify as WC with 'deprived, uneducated or uncultured' which doesn't apply at all in most cases.

I must have been living in a parallel universe because many of my MC male friends (some of whom studied at Oxbridge) were all very good at DIY, car maintenance etc. I can testify to this personally as these are the friends who helped me out when I bought my first home.

DH (WC background, MC job) is also brilliant at DIY. The only consistent between them all is they read either Maths, physics or engineering at university.

DH close friend is WC and hopeless at DIY (DH does any small jobs for him). Another is WC, studied history at Oxbridge and also useless at DIY (but pretty fantastic as an equity trader).

Jesus, stereotype much.

The whole thread is about stereotype, so it will bring out the best...