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AIBU?

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To think more MC women should try dating WC men

351 replies

CrotchBurn · 20/12/2020 05:46

Just realised the two happiest relationships I've had have been with working class guys. This shows my prejudice but: both were actually way less misogynistic than the MC men I went out with.

I've been with my partner who is WC for five years now. Sometimes its uncomfortable as we clash on things that we hadnt realised were pretty basic for both of us but by and large I find him much more interesting, insightful and crucially less bigoted than some of the sanctimonious pricks I've dated before, who would have a lot of "theory" but actually in practice lived in quite tight bubbles that made them prejudiced without realising it.

I feel freer with my current partner, and although he can do some "alright alright" style stuff like slapping my ass 😂 I think he is much more of an actual feminist in his actions than some of the self proclaimed "feminist" men I know who are also selfish, manipulative, and gaslighting.

Also he is very house proud (I see that as quite a working class thing) and does all the cleaning - and he takes it seriously. Meanwhile I am the higher earner and do all the cooking as I was brought up to experiment with food whereas he wasnt.

Plus - its sexy going out with a man who can build and fix stuff and repair cars and does boxing. He is a non violent person but I know if there was an apocalypse or we were attacked in the street he would sort it out.

Oh and another thing which I consider to be quite a WC thing: he always knows someone who knows someone who can get us what we need/do what we need doing as a favour.

Basically: I know it's kind of "taboo" to tall about it but AIBU to think that maybe a lot of middle class women would be happier with working class men?

OP posts:
GarlicSoup · 20/12/2020 06:26

Is that you Lady Chatterley? Hmm

speakout · 20/12/2020 06:26

OP are you suggesting working class people don't go to university?

Frenchdressing · 20/12/2020 06:27

What???? How are you even defining class? I am from a WC background but would be seen as MC now due to job.

My husband is from a family of doctors but now works as a painter and decorator. What’s his class?

Your post is full of assumptions.

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 20/12/2020 06:28

@GarlicSoup

Is that you Lady Chatterley? Hmm
Oh thank you, I needed a laugh this morning
ForestNymph · 20/12/2020 06:30

@TeachesOfPeaches

If you are WC and left school at 16 and went into a trade then you're more likely to settle down early as you're earning early, and have cash for your own place.

If you're MC and went to uni and do a masters and go travelling etc then you can be mid twenties and still living in a house share and relying on student loan. I think uni definitely infantilises people. (I'm WC but went to uni).

Potentially but DH and I had our first while he was still at uni (he's a couple of years younger than me), and there were a few other students with kids there so I don't think that's all of it.
speakout · 20/12/2020 06:30

Frenchdressing

I agree- and I find the OP's post verging on offensive.
Certainly stereotyping.

All these working class men who should be grateful and doffing their caps for someone stooping low enough to date them.

CrotchBurn · 20/12/2020 06:31

@catbunnydog
I feel like you’re being goady but also kind of insulting in a backwards way to WC men...like you’re so proud of yourself for dating someone who grew up differently to you. Like you’re more daring or something? It’s very ick

I feel like you're maybe transferring your own personality onto me.

OP posts:
Cam77 · 20/12/2020 06:34

I do agree that it’s sexy when they can fix anything and just generally figure things out.

Yep I long for the Paleolithic too.

Itgetsthehoseagain · 20/12/2020 06:35

I love my husband to bits, but God yours sounds sexy as f*ck.

Dongdingdong · 20/12/2020 06:35

I don’t think I’ve ever read an OP with so much ridiculous stereotyping in one post. This bit is particularly hilarious - because all working class men can repair cars and box, yup Hmm Grin

Plus - its sexy going out with a man who can build and fix stuff and repair cars and does boxing.

CrotchBurn · 20/12/2020 06:39

@Dongdingdong
I think maybe you need to focus more on reading than outraging. I never said all WC men do that. My point is they're more likely to. If you think middle class men are as likely to box then frankly you're just deluded.

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standupsitdownturnaround · 20/12/2020 06:40

@Dongdingdong

I don’t think I’ve ever read an OP with so much ridiculous stereotyping in one post. This bit is particularly hilarious - because all working class men can repair cars and box, yup Hmm Grin

Plus - its sexy going out with a man who can build and fix stuff and repair cars and does boxing.

OP is just using general stereotypes to generate a conversation. The knee jerk reaction to any stereotype is so boring. Just don't join in on the conversation if you don't like it. Or you could offer examples from your own life to illustrate why you don't think the stereotypes aren't valid.

Do you truly believe there's no class difference? Why not talk about it?

Maireas · 20/12/2020 06:41

He could sort out an apocalypse? Now that is impressive.

standupsitdownturnaround · 20/12/2020 06:41

Sorry that should say why you don't think these examples are valid.

Dongdingdong · 20/12/2020 06:43

Or you could offer examples from your own life to illustrate why you don't think the stereotypes aren't valid.

Fine. My other half is WC, couldn’t fix a car to save his life (he doesn’t even drive as we live in London) and has never boxed.

The knee jerk reaction to any stereotype is so boring.

So are the silly cliches!

CrotchBurn · 20/12/2020 06:43

@standupsitdownturnaround

Thank you. It's ridiculous to pretend differences in behaviour and also as a consequence difference in relationship dynamics dont exist.

OP posts:
Kaliorphic · 20/12/2020 06:45

Fine. My other half is WC, couldn’t fix a car to save his life (he doesn’t even drive as we live in London) and has never boxed

What does he do as a job?

Camomila · 20/12/2020 06:45

How about all the WC men who went to university and have MC careers now? where do they fit in? Grin

(am describing DH)

topcat2014 · 20/12/2020 06:48

Does he know he is only the current partner?

Whitewinespritzer · 20/12/2020 06:49

@Camomila

How about all the WC men who went to university and have MC careers now? where do they fit in? Grin

(am describing DH)

Mine too, I think it makes them middle class.
Cam77 · 20/12/2020 06:49

Honestly, congrats on finding a suitable bloke but I’m not sure analyzing your Sample of Three through the lens of social class, income, age, race makes any sense at all.

Yes, social class is still “a thing” in Britain (due to continued existence of land-owning class and poor social mobility), but its only one of dozens of factors that affect a persons worldview and personality. A sample of three is just anecdote and you seem a little fixated on it, with some very negative assumptions about middle class.

CrotchBurn · 20/12/2020 06:50

@Camomila
I think that's definitely a wider question about "class" in the UK - some people think whatever you go on to do in life, your class can't change. But there's the other view that class is fluid and can change as you change.

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scammedmum29 · 20/12/2020 06:51

YABU to talk about “class” at all. You found someone you love, it’s as simple as that.

RedHelenB · 20/12/2020 06:52

In not sure on the housework, I'd suggest it's the other way round due to WC men ( if we're doing these very broad stereotypes) going straight from mummy doing everything to marrying young and expecting gf/wife to carry on. MC men will have house shared/lived on their own so can look after themselves.

Deepintheforest · 20/12/2020 06:53

teachesofpeaches has a good point but also WC people go to university to. I am from a fully WC background about half my school friends went to university now at late 20s we are only just thinking about settling down. Other half have settled down years ago