To think this might be the end of the Tory party?

[HermannlovesPauline]

I’m not a Tory voter but do you think being known as he party “that stole Christmas” is going to finish off the conservatives?

So much faffing and changing of direction - how will anyone trust them again?

Nope, we'll never be shot of them, ever, no more than we'll be ever shot of rape, murder, famine, genocide, hatred, violence and every other bad thing on this planet.

Another 'the Tories are just so evil' posts while conveniently omitting the fact that what they have just done is what Kier Starmer and the Labour party have been clamouring for since Wednesday.

What a disingenuous post. Keir has (rightly) pestered Boris to revise guidance on mixing over xmas, in line with the rising number of cases. They've pushed for Boris to do this proactively, and not just be the reactive twat that he is, making drastic changes in the last minute. But lo and behold, despite claiming that to cancel xmas would be inhumane to those that have made plans, he does this anyway with a few days notice. He is a complete moron, and in some ways, I'm glad that he's pissed off even those that voted for him. They deserve him.

And no, it won't be the of them because who else will the gammonista vote for?

If the PM reacts too early, he gets criticised; if too late in some opinions, he gets criticised - what do you want him to do?

Where in this entire crisis has he’s reacted early?

@SpaceRaiders

If the PM reacts too early, he gets criticised; if too late in some opinions, he gets criticised - what do you want him to do?

Where in this entire crisis has he’s reacted early?

My thoughts exactly. Back in Feb/March when he was being told to lockdown like our European neighbours were, he bragged about how he'd continue to shake hands with strangers, and scoffed at the idea that Covid would affect day to day life.

@Seventytwo

The end of Boris, yes. The end of the Tories? No, sadly. Far too many bigots in this country for that!

This.

The end of Boris, yes. The end of the Tories? No, sadly. Far too many bigots in this country for that!

^This.

How do you think the Tories have remained in power for so many years, OP?

Even though some are in denial and will make it seem they were suffering so much🙄 when Tories weren't in power, that a change had to come and on that basis the harshness of their attitude and policies towards the working classes have been conveniently 'unseen'

I doubt it. Christmas is one day, a minority of people in the U.K. are observant Christians, and for all the fuss, this is just about cancelling some weekend plans. It's annoying but really not that big a deal.

Having no alternative to voting for Corbyn however....... God help us !

@Seventytwo

The end of Boris, yes. The end of the Tories? No, sadly. Far too many bigots in this country for that!

And this comment, my friends, tells you all you need to know about why the red wall fell. There are 14 million bigots among us, who knew? Good that posters such as this are here to remind us.

Maybe I missed something, but are the people complaining here the same ones who start frothing at the mouth when they see people in shops not wearing a mask, the curtain twitchers who are ready to report the neighbours vacate because it broke tier 3 rules, over enthusiastic supporters of let’s close the schools down. What are you all complaining about? Or are some rules more equal than others?

Echoing all saying "we can only hope" and similar

Starmer (who I am most definitely not a fan of - poor man's poor Blair imitation!) I think would at least LISTEN to said experts in plenty of time to properly plan and put in place actual, effective changes and enforcement.

I'm hearing from various avenues that previously die hard (see what I did there, cultural Xmas reference ) Tory voters are starting to question and even criticise how we're being governed.

Whether they'll still REMEMBER that come election time which is some years off who knows!

what do you want him to do?

How about actually govern?! There's been sod all of that since he became PM!

He's chased what he THINKS is the popular vote, effectively trying to "please all the people all of the time" and failed!

Failed on Brexit
Failed the economy
Failed on covid management
Failed the nhs
Failed the self employed
Failed businesses
Failed on international relations!

FAILURE!

Yeah, they've mess up on some things - but no more or less than ANY other government would*

Seriously?! Please do point out what this year they've done well?!

Let alone the last 10+!

@Googlebrained I'd argue those voting Tory who aren't independently wealthy are voting AGAINST their own self interest (though may think they're voting for if they lack understanding)

@Sobeyondthehills for the "traditional" Tory voter who doesn't give a shit about the poor, then their not being directly affected by benefits cuts etc tends to be why they were happy to vote Tory before but current events affecting everyone might just sway them - again we can hope!

@Mintjulia You're 8 months out of date!

Boris will fuck off to the states in January claiming "needing to spend time with family" or some such bollocks!

We can only hope a more sensible, more moderate and less egotistic Tory replaces him in the ensuing leadership election...

😂

Yea knowing our luck we'll get bloody Rees-Mogg who's first act will be to reinstate workhouses! 🙄

I’m sceptical but I hate the response of “no one else would do better” and “they’re doing their best”. British people have such low standards for their politicians. Boris and tories aren’t responsible for the virus but they should have accountable for how badly it’s been handled.

Plus, if you were going to have a 5 day period of travelling and mixing at Christmas why not have a stricter lockdown up until it to lower cases like some other countries have done?

@HermannlovesPauline

I wonder if he wishes Theresa was still in the job

I bet she's pissing herself at the way he's "getting it done", or actually not getting it done.

Seems unfair really, it is terrible yes but not sure how well the other parties would have dealt with a new deadly virus (along with brexit and the rest) but not sure it would have been any better. I kind of feel for Boris

@Graphista maybe for the traditional Tory voter, but that is not what happened at the last election,

Whether that was down to Brexit, Corybn or what, weirdly in my constinuency and the next one over, both Tory candidates got in, but with a lot less margin than before.

It probably didn't help that my lovely MP didn't bother to campaign in his area, infact went and helped campaign in a different area.

By the time the next general election comes around, everybody will have forgotten this: there’ll be some other critically important news item dominating the headlines by then. It might perhaps be a genuine concern like COVID, but it’s more likely to be one that’s been deliberately fashioned to help shape public opinion in the run-up to the election - and whichever it is, it’ll be that that determines who runs the country for the next few years. If the latter, will the general public be taken in by it? Yes, they will - and if it’s been done well, that same general public will insist afterwards that absolutely nothing that was said to them by all those unspeakable two-faced politicians influenced them in any way when it came to getting their vote.

Hope so, the most repugnant party ever.

No nothing will finish the Tories. Plus there's no opposition Kier Starrmer
seems to agree and go along with everything Boris Johnson says.

No because they put all their energy into winning elections.

Sadly people then fall for it

@HermannlovesPauline

I’m not a Tory voter but do you think being known as he party “that stole Christmas” is going to finish off the conservatives?

So much faffing and changing of direction - how will anyone trust them again?

As opposed to the party who trashed the economy, created 75,000 excess deaths in a matter of months, paid their mates billions for tests that don't work, apps that could never work, substandard PPE, and hand sanitiser that never materialised? And whose Brexit will trash the economy to hithertoto unimaginable depths and probably break up the Union?

I doubt it, they are well funded and always bounce back.

I don't think any PM we've ever had could have been worse though. No way would Starmer have over-promised then u-turned so frequently - Johnson's approach comes from his personality which is basically 'bluster-joke-bluster'.

Even yesterday he was saying how confident he was we would have defeated it by Easter - the man simply can't deal with the scale of his role, sadly for all of us.

One thing the Tories are good at is changing leaders. There must be a fair few in the party wanting rid of him now.

No it won’t be the end of them. They’re the only gender critical party left for starters. Not that I voted for them in the last election.... The end of Bozo, yes.

How are things working out in Wales with their Labour administration?

@Googlebrained

No because people have short memories, vote in their own self interest and many people actually voted for Nigel Farage.

Does that mean people will stop mentioning thatcher?