Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Neighbours beat up my mother in law- what should we do?

295 replies

LangClegTheBeardedVulture · 18/12/2020 09:40

Posting for traffic.

My MIL has lived in her home for around 10 years. Semi detached bungalow in a cul-de-sac.

Last year a young couple moved into the adjoining house and had a baby. My MIL has been complaining about them being noisy for a while and the police have been involved (in what capacity I don’t really know).

My MIL is convinced this couple want to drive her from her house so they can buy it and knock through as the guy’s a builder.

Anyway, this situation has been going on for a while and has been getting steadily worse, especially during lockdown; MIL lives on her own and we haven’t been able to visit, neither have her 2 sisters.

Yesterday, my MIL went out and came home to find a garden ornament she had on her front lawn had been broken; she blamed the neighbour and began throwing bits of it into their garden in a temper. The guy came out and they started shouting at each other and at some point my MIL hit him.

He then hit her back and two women came out of his house and also joined in and they beat her up.

When the police came they asked the man if he wanted to press charges as MIL started the fight. She is about 5ft tall and 71 years old and has been beaten black and blue- DH has taken photos of her injuries.

However, I think some of the previous incidents with the neighbour may not be quite as she has described. She may be experiencing some cognitive decline which lockdown has exacerbated- but as we don’t see her often it is hard to be sure. We’ve not noticed any bad behaviour from those neighbours when we’ve been at her house but she says it’s because they know we’re there so they keep quiet. She’s also not always the easiest woman to be around, she is stubborn and can be a very black and white thinker- she’s had various disputes with other neighbours about parking and other matters which are pretty trivial and I’d probably have just let go.

We do not want this situation to escalate and feel the best thing would be for her to sell the house and move, either closer to us or closer to her younger sisters- she, understandably, doesn’t want to be driven from her home by these people. It’s hard for DH to keep an eye on her as he can’t drive and there is no one else who can help as she is NC with her daughter and her sisters are 100 miles away. I’m getting very worried about her safety and mental health. If we had a spare room she’d be welcome to live with us, at least for a while, but that isn’t a possibility atm.

I’m just looking for advice on how best to help with the situation. Short term, we want her to feel safe, in the long term we want to make sure she’s close to family so she’s less isolated and we can step in and help. We also don’t want this situation to escalate further.
Any and all advice welcome. DH is really worried.

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 18/12/2020 19:42

@Feministicon

If a 71 year hit me I’d restrain them rather than beat them senseless.
Yes, as would most people, and you’d likely leave bruises, as did these people.
Leaannb · 18/12/2020 19:51

@Feministicon

If a 71 year hit me I’d restrain them rather than beat them senseless.
Leaving bruises on her chest and arms and more than likely skin tears. You are forgetting how the body ages. Easier to bruise (even more so with certain medications in blood thinners) and easier to tear the skin due to the skin being naturally thinner as we age.
Feministicon · 18/12/2020 20:19

I’m not forgetting anything thank you, there are ways of restraining without causing damage. Are you insinuating that her MIL is lying?

YesMeLady · 18/12/2020 20:22

why do you think she was beaten senseless?

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/12/2020 20:23

@Feministicon

I’m not forgetting anything thank you, there are ways of restraining without causing damage. Are you insinuating that her MIL is lying?
Nobody has, said that but it is very possible that MIL has a different perception of events. She thinks she is telling the truth that isn't lying. How likely is it that the neighbours are trained in safe restraint techniques?
Feministicon · 18/12/2020 20:23

It’s a well known turn of phrase.

Feministicon · 18/12/2020 20:25

What makes any of you armchair detectives know better than the op who has said she was beaten black and blue?

CaptainMyCaptain · 18/12/2020 20:26

@Feministicon

What makes any of you armchair detectives know better than the op who has said she was beaten black and blue?
Personal experience, in my case, that all might not be as it first appeared.
Leaannb · 18/12/2020 20:28

@YesMeLady

why do you think she was beaten senseless?
Bruises on her arms and chest is not indicative of being beaten senseless. Its signs of being pushed and restrained. If she was beaten senseless then she wouldn't have the mental fortitude to drive the distance to her son and dil's house and she would jave had a lot more injuries
Feministicon · 18/12/2020 20:29

We can’t know either way but I’m answering the OP as she has posed it.

Leaannb · 18/12/2020 20:29

@Feministicon

What makes any of you armchair detectives know better than the op who has said she was beaten black and blue?
Op said they had taken pictures of chest and arms that were bruised. If she was truly beaten she would have had other injuries especially on the face
CaptainMyCaptain · 18/12/2020 20:30

@Feministicon

We can’t know either way but I’m answering the OP as she has posed it.
Have you read the OP's subsequent posts?
Feministicon · 18/12/2020 20:30

Oh for goodness sake @Leaannb 🤦🏼‍♀️ Semantics, but whatever you say. Beaten black and blue is the expression then, happy? Probably not.

Leaannb · 18/12/2020 20:31

@Feministicon

I’m not forgetting anything thank you, there are ways of restraining without causing damage. Are you insinuating that her MIL is lying?
Not with the elderly. Its very dangerous to try and restrain the elderly due to the injuries they can recieve...Broken bones, bruises, skin tears etc...Their bodies are not like ours and to pretend otherwise is ludicrous
Feministicon · 18/12/2020 20:31

Ok.

Leaannb · 18/12/2020 20:35

@Feministicon

Oh for goodness sake *@Leaannb* 🤦🏼‍♀️ Semantics, but whatever you say. Beaten black and blue is the expression then, happy? Probably not.
Semantics are extremely important. Mil is bruised with no indication of being beaten black and blue. She is bruised because of an altercation where she admits she assaulted the victim. She admits the cops wanted to press charges on her. Her injuries are consistent of someone elderly being restrained which would explain why the cops did not want to press charges on the neighbors. Not once did I say MIL is lying. My vote is Vascular dementia which can cause violence and unreasonable behavior on her part
Feministicon · 18/12/2020 20:36

Yes, ok.

Gobbycop · 18/12/2020 20:47

I take it you're not in the UK?

If you are why are people banging on about pressing charges? Clearly shows they know less than zero about how policing in the UK works.

thosetalesofunexpected · 18/12/2020 20:58

Op
It was provokitive a bit thrown stuff,into neighbours garden from your mother in Law,

I still think it was totally unacceptable No excuses for mother in Laws neighbours,nasty aggressive behaviour towards her At All.
(I cant quite believe how some posters on here, are Ok, Mimising these sort of shitty dregs of society behaviour...
Disgraceful !!!

The police should have been mentioned,Judgemental/questioning
about this behaviour too,and the male next door neighbour especially should have been hurled into the police st aswell as the other women who came out afterwards...

frumpety · 18/12/2020 21:01

@Feministicon I once visited a lovely patient who was normally completely on the ball, but was sporting a whopping great black eye, when I asked how it had happened, she solemnly told me her daughter had hit her. I would have believed her too, if it wasn't for the fact that her daughter had died 18 months previously.

Leaannb · 18/12/2020 21:11

@thosetalesofunexpected

Op It was provokitive a bit thrown stuff,into neighbours garden from your mother in Law,

I still think it was totally unacceptable No excuses for mother in Laws neighbours,nasty aggressive behaviour towards her At All.
(I cant quite believe how some posters on here, are Ok, Mimising these sort of shitty dregs of society behaviour...
Disgraceful !!!

The police should have been mentioned,Judgemental/questioning
about this behaviour too,and the male next door neighbour especially should have been hurled into the police st aswell as the other women who came out afterwards...

In what way waere the neighbors nasty and aggressive? You mean after MIL assaulted one of them. The cops were called and asked the neighbor if he wanted to press charges for being assaulted? He said no. That does not sound being nasty and aggressive to me We are not minimizing the actions of shitty dregs of society. We are saying that MIL may not be shitty, dregs of society and may instead be having serious health problems. Its either that or she is a complete piece of shit and deserves to be locked up for being shitty.
Leaannb · 18/12/2020 21:14

@Gobbycop

I take it you're not in the UK?

If you are why are people banging on about pressing charges? Clearly shows they know less than zero about how policing in the UK works.

Its an American phrase but its not the way our system works either. Only Prosecutors can actually press charges.
SnackSizeRaisin · 18/12/2020 21:41

why are people banging on about pressing charges? Clearly shows they know less than zero about how policing in the UK works.

Well they certainly do ask if you want to pursue a case. I was the victim of a minor crime and was told that it was up to me if I wanted the police to pursue it. I was asked if I would want to testify against the person in court, knowing that I might not win and that it might be unpleasant to face the perpetrator. I decided not to go ahead. I don't know if the phrase "press charges" was used. But for less serious crimes they will give some say to the victim. You also hear of cases where shopkeepers decline to press charges against shop lifters who have since apologised.

WorrierorWarrior · 18/12/2020 22:23

A person of 70+ has been bruised. I don't think it is acceptable that anyone should bruise a person of that age.
Maybe the MIL had reached the end of the line with NDN. They have a baby, babies cry and that can be really annoying when a person is trying to sleep or watch a tv program.

I would not rule out the statement that the neighbours may be trying to get MIL to move away so that they can buy/take over the house. It is not unheard of for neighbours to make life so unbearable that a person has to move. Nor is it unheard of for neighbours to have an eye on a house belonging to an older person either for themselves or for a family member of theirs.

If OP is going to visit tomorrow maybe she should park her car a few streets away and try to arrive at MIL's house unseen to find out if the NDN are being difficult thinking the old dear is in the house alone.

AfterSchoolWorry · 18/12/2020 22:45

For all we know the bruises could have come from the police restraining her and her struggling.

I would try to talk to the police and get a true picture of what happened.

Swipe left for the next trending thread