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To think this is unacceptable?

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flaviaritt · 14/12/2020 08:07

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9048759/Family-kicked-United-flight-New-Jersey-toddler-refused-wear-mask.html

This family were forced to leave a flight home because their two year old wouldn’t ‘comply’ with mask-wearing.

She’s 2.

Has the world gone mad? Surely it’s common sense that a young child should not be forced into a mask? Surely it’s a violation of the rights of the child to insist upon this?

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Wheresmykimchi · 14/12/2020 22:11

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

I'm beginning to wish I'd called them crumblebums instead. Or gruntfuttocks.
Gruntfuttocks

[grin
Debating a name change

MaryLeeOnHigh · 14/12/2020 22:15

No, I personally wouldn't be flying however it's a fucking stupid ruke got the airline to have, children have really suffered and their needs have been completely overlooked again and again

How does it hurt a two year old not to be able to make a pointless plane journey with their parents to a social event? Most two year olds would be delighted to be able to return to their nice, familiar home.

Wheresmykimchi · 14/12/2020 22:19

@MaryLeeOnHigh

No, I personally wouldn't be flying however it's a fucking stupid ruke got the airline to have, children have really suffered and their needs have been completely overlooked again and again

How does it hurt a two year old not to be able to make a pointless plane journey with their parents to a social event? Most two year olds would be delighted to be able to return to their nice, familiar home.

I do agree that children have suffered.

Namely the age group that have fallen through the cracks -early to mid secondary - who have had to wear masks for months with no one fighting their corner.

MaryLeeOnHigh · 14/12/2020 22:22

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Ok well I think it is discriminatory and I think forcing masks on 2yos is horrific. Let's agree to disagree shall we.
How is this airline forcing a mask on anyone? It doesn't force parents to book with it.
MaryLeeOnHigh · 14/12/2020 22:29

slashlover
Yes... I've already said I wouldn't.. now many times would you like me to say it?

So do you agree that the parents in the article were wrong for doing so?
No I don't think they were wrong, they obviously tried to get her to wear a mask. They did what they could.

No, they really didn't. For starters, one of them was too busy doing the filming. They're known Covid-deniers hungry for instagram celebrity, the chances that they made any real effort are vanishingly small.

S0upertrooper · 14/12/2020 22:30

Whilst I don't belive a 2 year old should have to wear a mask, they might have had more chance of her doing it if they'd taken the phone out her face. I can't bear parents that make everything into a performance 😡

Brefugee · 15/12/2020 08:34

But you don't have to go on the plane either if you feel it's a risk do you?

If you bought the ticket in good faith that everyone on the plane was going to wear a mask - and you got seated next to the entitled whiny parent of the 2 year old who can't be socially responsible because their little darling doesn't want to wear a mask - you can take a running jump.

It is up to everyone who buys the ticket, and I'm pretty sure when you buy tickets you tick a box to say you have read the T&C and agree to abide by them, to keep to the rules. If you don't - you don't fly. And that includes all the entitled parents of the next generation's rule breaking scroats to ensure they comply. Or they don't fly.

a bit of personal, not to mention, social responsibility is severely lacking in so many people on this thread (and I'll assume in the population at large) it is staggering.

Wherehavetheteletubbiesgone · 15/12/2020 09:37

@TrustTheGeneGenie

I'm fed up with those in the UK inventing reasons why cannot wear a mask yet most of Asia and China seems to not have these conditions that prevent mask use

Yeah, they also do a lot of other things over there that we wouldn't dream of doing over here.... I hate it when people wheel this out as if China's is an example we should follow. Urgh.

They (China) have the virus well under control. I absolutely believe we should be following their methods. This crisis has shown that individuals are too selfish and self centred to be trusted to wear a mask and social distance. We need more authoritarianism as much as that sticks in my throat because Miss entitled wants to be able to do what she wants because my rights/violence against the child/dubious medical reason.
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/12/2020 11:35

Germany (273 deaths per million population) is doing rather better than we are (946 dpm) without the need to lock people into apartment buildings. Or we could copy Finland (83 dpm) or Norway (72 dpm), ditto. Japan is at 20 dpm without draconian measures being taken.

I feel fairly sure that no child in Norway or Finland would be exempted from universal regulations merely because its parents were entitled prannets.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/12/2020 11:39

For the record, the deaths per million in the UK are higher than those in the US: 946 for UK and 928 for US. And that is in spite of Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland doing a great deal better than England because of having working track-and-trace plus sensible regulation instead of the horlicks we've got in England.

GabsAlot · 15/12/2020 12:59

stop saying abuse its insulting op

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