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To feel upset that counsellor made me feel bad for using MN

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notmenotmine · 13/12/2020 15:36

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I’ve been on a waiting list for counselling to address some issues form my childhood and the relationship I have with my parents.

Since becoming a mum myself (in Feb) I’ve felt really affected by certain things and I need some help coming to terms with my feelings.

Anyway, our first session was on Friday afternoon (remotely)

I firstly had to tell her about me, interests, hobbies, my life etc.
The therapists then asked me what support I have and who I can turn to.

I told her I have my husband.
I have some really close friends but I struggle to open up to them.
This isn’t because they aren’t supportive, it’s more because I struggle with showing people my emotions and I don’t want people to see my vulnerable side.

She told me it’s important that I have a good support network and feel able to get things off of my chest.

I get this from my husband but told her I also use MN which since having DC I’ve found really helpful, especially after being diagnosed with post natal anxiety.

She told me that places like MN attract the same type of people, who fuel each other’s anxieties and worries.

I told her my experience is different and to be honest MN has been a huge help to me, but she said “people who have full and happy lives don’t depend on strangers for support”

She told me she wants to put in my treatment plan that I will reduce my MN usage.

I feel really upset by what she’s said and quite honestly really judged by her.

It was only our first session so I don’t know what she’s like other than the hour we had on Friday.

I told my husband and he said he thinks it’s a good idea for me to stop using MN too and to start trying to trust my own judgement and opinions or that of my RL friends.

I don’t know if I’m over reacting or being too sensitive but I feel pretty crap about what she’s said.☹️

OP posts:
Donotlikemyname · 13/12/2020 23:30

Its also on AIBU. Not suggesting its ok to be an arse, but perhaps it would have been better posting on the mental health board.

ravenmum · 14/12/2020 08:43

I felt comfortable with her. She was actually really nice and it was only this comment which threw me
In that case it sounds like it might be worth bringing up what she said and how you felt. She might explain it more, she might (like my counsellor) apologise. She spends all day talking to people; at some point, something is bound to come out a bit wrong.
I get the impression that the question isn't really whether MN is a snakepit or not; the more important point is that it sounded as if she was saying you're a loser?! Considering her client base, it's pretty unlikely, isn't it?

dontdisturbmenow · 14/12/2020 08:59

OP also bear in mind how angry people seem to be getting on this board. A genuine friend would say that they are happy you're getting professional help. Yet this is the 10th page of mostly vitriol? I'd imagine this is why your therapist doesn't think MN has your best interests at heart
Exactly that!

Kippure · 14/12/2020 09:21

@dontdisturbmenow

OP also bear in mind how angry people seem to be getting on this board. A genuine friend would say that they are happy you're getting professional help. Yet this is the 10th page of mostly vitriol? I'd imagine this is why your therapist doesn't think MN has your best interests at heart Exactly that!
That’s kind of an example of what I was talking about earlier. The OP’s original ‘I feel upset and judged by my counsellor but not sure if I’m over-reacting’ has now been amplified by a couple of hundred posts to ‘HOW DARE SHE, WHAT A SHIT COUNSELLOR,, COMPLAIN ABOUT HER TO HER ORGANISATION!!!’

And given that the OP’s husband, who presumably knows her and the way her anxieties manifest themselves, agrees with the counsellor that she should ideally reduce her Mn usage and ‘start trying to trust my own judgement and that of my RL friends’ — mightn’t it be possible that the person who knows and loves her AND the professional who’s spent an hour talking to her in RL, have a point?

Holyrivolli · 14/12/2020 09:24

@dontdisturbmenow and how many people have misunderstood that the OP isn’t paying for it and has been on a waiting list so actually has limited options. But no they’re advising her to walk away from it on the basis that she has supposedly slagged MN with absolutely no idea what her alternatives are. It’s knee jerk, simplistic and terrible advice. Which tbh is a good example of why you shouldn’t rely on MN for support as amongst the well considered posters, it’s populated by some rather stupid people who give bad advice with an unhealthy dose of arrogance.

Blueroses99 · 14/12/2020 09:50

Haven’t RTFT but just wanted to say that solely relying on real life support relies on having the right people in your life - and often the problem is that you don’t.

I was warned against using online forums by a therapist, so I didn’t for a long time, which I regret as I could have received meaningful support through some difficult times.

I used Online forums for specific topics - infertility, difficult pregnancy, stillbirth - where talking to people with similar experiences online was comforting and talking to my closest friends was awkward.

There are definitely people (like me) that can open up more anonymously online.

CoffeeCreamandSugar · 14/12/2020 09:50

I think you should ask her what her reasoning is if you feel able to.

I have noticed that when my mental health isn’t the greatest that I use MN more. I have also noticed that when I get anxious about Covid then I use the Covid forum on MN more... the problem with that is that then generally fuels my anxieties further.

Now having said that I’m stepping away from MN Smile well I’m going to try.

AlCalavicci · 14/12/2020 09:56

I have not RTFT yet but i think your therapists may be on here and does not want to be outted ! Grin

I agree with some of the PP , I joined due to a DH dying and I need somewhere that I could rant and say things I would never dream of saying to people in RL , I got a huge amount of advice and support that I would of struggled without .
But there are some really nasty people on here that just seem to enjoy goading others into a slanging match.

I can find myself spending to long on here but I dont use it instead of 'real' company but more of a back up ( and I dont have any friends that want to play WAGs at 3 am ! )
I think if you do go back to her you need to explain how her coment made you feel and you intend to keep using MN but will not allow it to control of of your decisions

NatalieLollipop · 14/12/2020 10:41

Hi notmenotmine. I'm a Counsellor working for the NHS. It sounds as though that was pretty unhelpful for you. Personally I would never encourage or tell someone to reduce or stop doing something they find helpful, and which isn't putting them at risk of harm - not my place. And as for 'treatment plans'... don't get me started! 😂

MrsMiaWallis · 14/12/2020 12:11

Hi notmenotmine. I'm a Counsellor working for the NHS

We have no way of knowing if this is true.

Kaliorphic · 14/12/2020 12:18

We have no way of knowing if this is true.

It doesn't actually matter does it. We have no way of proving who anyone is here. But it's not particularly relevant. Natalie's advice is not controversial.

Thischarmlessgirl · 14/12/2020 12:46

I’m a therapist and this seems judgemental, I actively encourage connection and support and lots of people use forums and online support groups etc. Sorry to hear this happened OP, if you can I’d challenge her, if not ask to be referred to someone different

CoffeeCreamandSugar · 14/12/2020 12:50

@AlCalavicci

I have not RTFT yet but i think your therapists may be on here and does not want to be outted ! Grin

I agree with some of the PP , I joined due to a DH dying and I need somewhere that I could rant and say things I would never dream of saying to people in RL , I got a huge amount of advice and support that I would of struggled without .
But there are some really nasty people on here that just seem to enjoy goading others into a slanging match.

I can find myself spending to long on here but I dont use it instead of 'real' company but more of a back up ( and I dont have any friends that want to play WAGs at 3 am ! )
I think if you do go back to her you need to explain how her coment made you feel and you intend to keep using MN but will not allow it to control of of your decisions

She probably is Grin

damn... I didn’t last long stepping away from MN did I?

Eckhart · 14/12/2020 13:06

I think, ultimately, that you need to feel comfortable enough with your counsellor to openly express your deepest worries (eventually)

Feeling judged in the first session, for something as widespread as using an internet forum, may preclude the development of this feeling.

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 14/12/2020 18:45

I’m dubious of anyone posting and giving their professional designation,and then casting aspersions on a fellow counsellor. It’s really not good professional conduct

I’ll bet there are a few on this thread from psychiatry/ counselling/ mental health who simply aren’t announcing it

As in general it’s discouraged to post in a professional capacity. All the professional bodies and employers advise a light touch and not to dispense professional advise online.

Eckhart · 14/12/2020 22:12

I’m dubious of anyone posting and giving their professional designation,and then casting aspersions on a fellow counsellor. It’s really not good professional conduct

Everybody who posts draws their own life experiences, and those of counsellors are particularly relevant here. It's only unprofessional if you are named and criticising a named person. Any criticism here is conceptual due to anonymity. Nobody will lose business or reputation because of it. Would it be better of we said 'On this post re methods of counselling, NO COUNSELLORS PLEASE.'?

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 14/12/2020 23:07

I’m dubious because in announcing ones professional designation it can be powerful,it can make others give credence and weight to an opinion. And on their thread people are referring to x and y posters who have stated they are counsellors and giving that credence.

All of The professional bodies advise professionals to use social media judiciously

Mumsmet always adds the caveat that claims of professional qualifications and or experience can not be verified and rightly advises posters to be cautious. Which is effectively what I’m saying too

And I note others have also said We have no way of knowing if this is true when posters purport to be trained^

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