To think that there must be very few people who voted to leave the EU and thought we’d be in this position now

[Butterflyfluff]

No deal deadline is tomorrow and Johnson is now spinning that as the best jolly jape ever

That’s a far cry from his referendum and subsequent promises of getting the best deal ever

Are there many leavers who actually wanted and thought we’d end up with no deal?

@Daphnise

When are remoaners going to stop?

We have left the EU.

A so called deal or no deal won't have any effect in the long run.

So there's no need to get worked up.

Just remember we were only in the EU for about forty years, and not in it the whole of the rest of time, i.e. hundreds and hundreds of years.

Yes 40 years of relative peacetime. The rest of the time (those hundred and hundred of years) it seems Britain was almost always at war with Europe.

It was always lost on Brexiteers – but the EU is fundamentally about peace

I don’t think some hardcore Leavers are particularly worried about - or even interested by - peace in Europe. They are massively complacent about the peace and prosperity in Western Europe of the last half century or so without ever reflecting on the conditions that brought about such an unprecedented period of peace.

And bloody obsessed by the mythology of the 40s, or course.

@Daphnise

When are remoaners going to stop?

We have left the EU.

A so called deal or no deal won't have any effect in the long run.

So there's no need to get worked up.

Just remember we were only in the EU for about forty years, and not in it the whole of the rest of time, i.e. hundreds and hundreds of years.

Excellent so the UK goes back to 1972 while the rest of the world heads into 2021

brilliant

@JassyRadlett

I don’t think some hardcore Leavers are particularly worried about - or even interested by - peace in Europe. They are massively complacent about the peace and prosperity in Western Europe of the last half century or so without ever reflecting on the conditions that brought about such an unprecedented period of peace.

And bloody obsessed by the mythology of the 40s, or course.

I guess they’ve taken peace for granted. What a foolish error.

I don’t think some hardcore Leavers are particularly worried about - or even interested by - peace in Europe

they dont give a shit- they are all gleeful with their 'the eu is going to collapse' predictions. -

@Helmetbymidnight

I don’t think some hardcore Leavers are particularly worried about - or even interested by - peace in Europe

they dont give a shit- they are all gleeful with their 'the eu is going to collapse' predictions. -

The EU is unlikely to collapse. They’re using Britain as an example to ensure that they stay together.

How the Brexit negotiations can end without war being declared

When are remoaners going to stop?

Never, just as you lot didn't stop moaning when we joined lol!

Very few people who voted to leave the EU can think at all.

This is the reason why most Brexiteers have had enough of Remainers - this. Disgusting. 4.5yrs of vile bile.

I am sure that the Brexiters are just going to LOVE
having to
Obey WTO rules
and cope with 169 countries able to veto our trade agreements
and for the decision makers to be
630 unelected bureaucrats in Geveva

taking back control my arse

This is the reason why most Brexiteers have had enough of Remainers

what they gonna do then, restrict our rights and freedoms, screw our economy and our jobs, screw our science collaboration and our peace agreements?!

This is the reason why most Brexiteers have had enough of Remainers - this. Disgusting. 4.5yrs of vile bile

If this goes as badly as it appears right now Brexiteers ain’t seen nothing yet. And the “vile bile” will be entirely justified.

@Helmetbymidnight

This is the reason why most Brexiteers have had enough of Remainers

what they gonna do then, restrict our rights and freedoms, screw our economy and our jobs, screw our science collaboration and our peace agreements?!

Yes that and more but still watch Johnson dressing up in silly outfits and spouting nonsense he doesn’t himself believe.

fb.watch/2mRE48djIn/

*We have left the EU.

A so called deal or no deal won't have any effect in the long run.

So there's no need to get worked up.

Just remember we were only in the EU for about forty years, and not in it the whole of the rest of time, i.e. hundreds and hundreds of years.*

@Daphnise this is nonsense. We may have left the EU but we've been totally cushioned from the impact so far by the transition period. The shit is about to hit the fan and our economy is expected to lose about 6% of its GDP and 300,000 jobs in the event of no deal. Do you consider that no effect?? It will depress our economic growth for decades relative to other countries.

Also the economy has probably changed more in the last 40 years than the last 400. You can't turn the clock back on globalisation and digitalisation. You can't recreate the UK's long-gone manufacturing base and make it competitive with China and Thailand. You're breathtakingly naive.

@JassyRadlett

It seems to me that a lot of leavers have become more extreme since the referendum.

It’s been an interesting exercise in the applied theory of radicalisation by the state and the wider body politic. Pretty textbook.

@JassyRadlett, I'd be interested in hearing the nutshell version of that.

Sorry, I'm being lazy and not going to look it all up myself, but I feel this is something I need to know.

(I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot more of this in the next few years, as lots more groups pick up this particular tool to advance their aims. We've reached the point in the cycle where extremism is fashionable again, and sadly we seem to need lots of people to die each time, to learn it's a bad idea.)