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to think 'Fuck em, if you want No Deal Brexit so hard, then enjoy it' and fuck you if it turns out shit for you

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chomalungma · 11/12/2020 19:04

I am past caring now.
I feel for people who didn't want Brexit. Who know all the implications and can see the issues that are coming.

But if you want No Deal Brexit and it fucks you up, tough shit.

You wanted it. You get it. You own it.

And pardon me if I don't give a shit anymore about you.

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TheSunIsStillShining · 11/12/2020 21:02

@TheWichitaWineOne

Meanwhile the architects of this, will sell off with what’s left of our assets and make a killing and encourage us with the help of their media chums to fight amongst ourselves. They are traitors

God they are. They used racism, paranoia and lies to get the turkeys to vote for Christmas so they could feed off a deregulated society and get fat.

I could be okay with them getting fat or lining their pockets as long as they keep the country in working order. We had a chat with friends a few months back about Hungary and someone said that although socialism wasn't good, it was not as bad as current croony capitalism. At least the former made quite an effort to look like it cared about it's people. The latter are not even trying.....

and I agree with everyone re: not feeling sorry for the turkey. I can live with the fact that I am no saint, but I really wish the ppl who voted leave will feel the effects as of jan 1 preferably.

XingMing · 11/12/2020 21:02

And what if no deal turns out well? Will you suddenly embrace it? I already know you think it won't be good.

stepintotwitmas · 11/12/2020 21:02

@Ihatefish

Well I think that the EUs (and I’m particularly looking at France and Germany here) attitude justifies leaving the EU.

Empires rise and fall. As they fall the rulers of the empires panic and get aggressive trying to cling to power.

Pick up any history book any you’ll see the same patterns over and over.

One of the main drivers for the EU was to avoid world war 3. It kept the members of the EU from fighting each other in war for the longest period ever in modern history. It has succeeded in ensuring peace among the countries who are members. The way you speak makes it sound like you'd be happy for world war 3. The EU has 27 countries, we are 1. They are not an empire, total nonsense.
Hayeahnobut · 11/12/2020 21:02

@Livelovebehappy There are people in the UK already starving. How do you think they're going to cope when prices increase? That increase will mean less people donating to food banks, as they struggle to feed their own families.

You're beyond ignorant to suggest people aren't going to starve, when ignoring the state the country is already in.

BorisSortYourHairOutAndBrexit · 11/12/2020 21:03

@stepintotwitmas - I agree we are an international embarrassment. This government in particular has made sure of that.
Apparently we will be able to make so many other wondrous trade deals that will eclipse the business we do with the EU so it will all be fine. Confused

stepintotwitmas · 11/12/2020 21:03

@XingMing

And what if no deal turns out well? Will you suddenly embrace it? I already know you think it won't be good.
When the Daily Mail runs features about all the food we will no longer be able to buy, I think it is clear it won't turn out well.
Haffiana · 11/12/2020 21:03

@XingMing

And what if no deal turns out well? Will you suddenly embrace it? I already know you think it won't be good.
What if unicorns fart rainbows?
TheRubyRedshoes · 11/12/2020 21:04

I find the whole situation baffling. Apparently 97%of a deal is done, painfully thrashed out in the background all these years and now it's going to all be discarded over a very typical French spat. Surely macron is the most unpopular president in French history? They always whip up some foreign angst to make them selves look better at home..

I also can't understand why the eu thinks we should be subject to rules they would not ask other countries like Australia or Canada to adhere to?

The best selling point of any club is not how hard and painful it is to leave but how brilliant it is to remain a member?

There is global recession I can't believe the eu would damage their own citizens for the sake of French demanding access to our waters?

frumpety · 11/12/2020 21:05

Divide and conquer is alive and well in 2020's UK.

I don't want anybody to suffer as a result of the Governments gross mishandling of Brexit. I like to believe that most people who voted for it thought the Government were at least going to try to keep their referendum promises, especially the Chief Brexit cheerleader Boris.

19 days to go.

akerman · 11/12/2020 21:05

If no deal turned out well, I’d be relieved. I will never embrace what’s happened. I’ve seen the distress, hurt and fear it has brought to EU citizens, many of whom are family and friends. And when my husband was in hospital for five weeks this year, he couldn’t have received better, kinder care from EU staff. It shames and angers me that they have been made to feel unwelcome. It disgusts me that people aligned themselves with that.

chomalungma · 11/12/2020 21:06

@XingMing

And what if no deal turns out well? Will you suddenly embrace it? I already know you think it won't be good.
We are much better together. And we don't know how much better we would have been if we had stayed in. There is no 'sliding door' here - we don't know how things would have been if we had stayed.

But we've had that argument.

We know the immediate effects of No Deal.

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Newrumpus · 11/12/2020 21:07

Haffiana

Yep, it is the racist Northerners who will suffer the worst.

Jeez. There’s none so blind...

TheKeatingFive · 11/12/2020 21:07

And what if no deal turns out well

Explain to us all the many ways it could turn out well? I’m all ears.

SantiagoSky · 11/12/2020 21:07

Watching this from Switzerland I am amused by the idea that this shit show is caused by „the EU being difficult“ Grin

chomalungma · 11/12/2020 21:08

I also can't understand why the eu thinks we should be subject to rules they would not ask other countries like Australia or Canada to adhere to

Because we are their closest neighbours and we do a lot of trade with them and vice versa.

Unlike Australia and Canada

But that doesn't fit into a tweet or a soundbite.

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Haffiana · 11/12/2020 21:08

@frumpety

Divide and conquer is alive and well in 2020's UK.

I don't want anybody to suffer as a result of the Governments gross mishandling of Brexit. I like to believe that most people who voted for it thought the Government were at least going to try to keep their referendum promises, especially the Chief Brexit cheerleader Boris.

19 days to go.

It is going to divide this country into North and South. Haves and Have Nots.

But it is nice to believe nice things. It won't put food on plates though.

DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow · 11/12/2020 21:09

Honestly I don't blame all leave voters. The majority of leave voters didn't want no deal. They were sold a dream.
No dealers can fuck right off, though. And so can the people who hark on about Churchill and the war and British glory days even though they were a) too young to personally remember any of it and b)people who were ACTUALLY alive during and old enough to remember WW2 overwhelming voted remain.

randomer · 11/12/2020 21:09

Perhaps a few people would like to outline ways in which they feel a no deal Brexit will be helpful?

Please, go ahead. I'm all ears.

akerman · 11/12/2020 21:09

It is utterly ludicrous to claim it’s the EU being difficult. Did the EU ask us to leave, to turn ourselves not only into a third country but a direct competitor? No, they did not. But we did, and now we will be treated like a third country and a direct competitor.

ItsAlwaysSunnyOnMN · 11/12/2020 21:09

How many were so full of anger on behalf of the many that voted Brexit because for so many years they struggled

Same old story when it impacts our lives we feel impassioned

Can’t really understand why anyone would want to see others suffer (unless the people themselves were cruel and nasty)

I heard these sort of remarks just after the referendum mainly from those who believed themselves to be socialists Confused

MillieEpple · 11/12/2020 21:09

I struggle to feel angry at the average voter who voted differently to me. The remain campaign was very poor, the leave campaign lied and seemed to be allowed to. There had been years of anti-eu press that had never been challenged. I am sure there was social media manipulation going on.

nosswith · 11/12/2020 21:10

I voted Remain.

OP, it will often be the parts of the country where there were higher than average Leave voters that will have the greatest impacts. Though that is not the same as wanting No Deal.

cyclingmad · 11/12/2020 21:10

If you no longer like the direction the country is going in then pack up your bags and move to a country that meets your ideals. Over 150 to choose from, noone is forcing you to live in the UK.

BorisSortYourHairOutAndBrexit · 11/12/2020 21:10

@SantiagoSky

Watching this from Switzerland I am amused by the idea that this shit show is caused by „the EU being difficult“ Grin
Oh yes, it is all the fault of the big bad nasty EU.
DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow · 11/12/2020 21:10

@chomalungma

I also can't understand why the eu thinks we should be subject to rules they would not ask other countries like Australia or Canada to adhere to

Because we are their closest neighbours and we do a lot of trade with them and vice versa.

Unlike Australia and Canada

But that doesn't fit into a tweet or a soundbite.

Russia also borders the EU. And Turkey. Russia especially probably does a lot of trade with EU countries. They are not given any special treatment.
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