to think 'Fuck em, if you want No Deal Brexit so hard, then enjoy it' and fuck you if it turns out shit for you

[chomalungma]

I am past caring now.
I feel for people who didn't want Brexit. Who know all the implications and can see the issues that are coming.

But if you want No Deal Brexit and it fucks you up, tough shit.

You wanted it. You get it. You own it.

And pardon me if I don't give a shit anymore about you.

We have had so many happy holidays in Europe over the years. I think I am too ashamed to show my face anywhere in Europe again. The last time we were in Paris was just after the leave vote. Everybody we met asked us what we thought about it and we spent the entire time apologising.

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It is possible to do an Advanced Search without having the premium thing. I certainly do not have that, having no need for it.

@Eleganz

I thought that people on her could have a discussion without resorting to insults, nastiness and trolling. Clearly I was wrong.

Well, if you do crow about being a massive hypocrite on a highly emotive topic at very sensitive time you will upset people. It is like poking a beehive and complaining that you have been stung. I mean what you have done is pretty much trolling.

Precisely.

Same jane

I dont have premium membership but find the ability to see all of the OPs posts very useful

Advanced search can be useful as well 😀

Funny how calling out posters for making unpleasant / hypocritical / contradictory posts results in them flinging accusations of stalking and being creepy.

Almost like they don’t want to be held accountable for what they post.

Advanced search can be useful as well

Well - when I started another thread on sending out the entire fleet to protect our fish, advanced search helped some posters see that I might have been being very sarcastic

Are you going to start another thread on this OP?

@chomalungma

Advanced search can be useful as well

Well - when I started another thread on sending out the entire fleet to protect our fish, advanced search helped some posters see that I might have been being very sarcastic

😛

@KenDodd

Are you going to start another thread on this OP?

I am sure I will start another thread on something Brexit related - when people realise that they are in the wrong queue at passport control and then complain to the papers about being treated as non EU citizens.

That’s bound to happen. They haven’t joined the dots yet. Pfft

@endofthelinefinally

We have had so many happy holidays in Europe over the years. I think I am too ashamed to show my face anywhere in Europe again. The last time we were in Paris was just after the leave vote. Everybody we met asked us what we thought about it and we spent the entire time apologising.

Please don't apologize . I can only speak for myself, but I think a lot of eu citizens are genuinely curious and would like your take on brexit. We just don't understand and are trying to see your point.

I know several on MN have said it was rude to be questioned about brexit by 'forriners', but I don't think you can blame us for wondering .

My parents (who I have always rated as highly intelligent) voted Brexit and honestly it has made me question their decency. They are well off professionals, semi-retired with a lot of assets so they're going to be fine (interested to see how they manage the holiday home in France mind you). It's others who will suffer. On the other hand the live on the Kent coast and I can't help but hope they find the inevitable tailbacks of lorries along all the main routes a complete pain in the arse. It's petty but there you go.

@chomalungma

Advanced search can be useful as well

Well - when I started another thread on sending out the entire fleet to protect our fish, advanced search helped some posters see that I might have been being very sarcastic

That was funny 😀

Took me/people a while with zilla as well

If countries stand and act together big business have no choice put to play by the rules, be it on tax, workers rights, health and safety or whatever. The so called freedom to diverge from EU law on these things Leavers are so desperate for just allows big business to force a race to the bottom

This this this.

I don't even believe that BJ is wrangling with the EU in any meaningful way. He's buying time to either appease the Tory Ultras who have been salivating over deregulation for years, or to give the impression that 'he did all he could' to avoid No Deal.

If it's No Deal, it's because BJ couldn't find what remains of his spine to stand up to JRM and his acolytes.

@TheWichitaWineOne

If countries stand and act together big business have no choice put to play by the rules, be it on tax, workers rights, health and safety or whatever. The so called freedom to diverge from EU law on these things Leavers are so desperate for just allows big business to force a race to the bottom

This this this.

I don't even believe that BJ is wrangling with the EU in any meaningful way. He's buying time to either appease the Tory Ultras who have been salivating over deregulation for years, or to give the impression that 'he did all he could' to avoid No Deal.

If it's No Deal, it's because BJ couldn't find what remains of his spine to stand up to JRM and his acolytes.

Absolutely. BJ has done nothing at all meaningful since he became PM, once he got himself to the position he'd been angling for all his life. He's an embarrassment to the country on the public stage. Like Trump, he has been concerned purely for his own status and didn't expect to actually have to do any useful work, or any work at all, once he'd achieved the status he wanted.

I doubt it ever crossed Boris' mind that he would actually have to do anything. He put Dominic Cummings in charge, then along came the Covid19 virus. Cummings made a complete and utter mess of it, broke the rules, the level of corruption and nest feathering has been extraordinary. The opposition have been about as much use as a wet lettuce. Deeply humiliating all round.
Never mind the appalling level of deaths and loss of jobs and the lost educational opportunities of a generation.

Sorry. Strayed into covid territory there, but the level of incompetence is the same.

I don't see why you'd need to start a new thread - what is there still to be said? Perhaps in 3 months time when we've experienced the reality then we can discuss fact and not fiction. I'll be glad when this one goes as it's brought out some real nastiness on both sides.

@lifestooshort123

I don't see why you'd need to start a new thread - what is there still to be said? Perhaps in 3 months time when we've experienced the reality then we can discuss fact and not fiction. I'll be glad when this one goes as it's brought out some real nastiness on both sides.

Maybe we could extend this thread past the 1000 post limit?

Perhaps in 3 months time when we've experienced the reality then we can discuss fact and not fiction

What constitutes 'fiction' for you? (the Brexit campaign's lies and half-truths aside)

People predicting how traumatic a No Deal Brexit will unfold isn't fictional, because it hasn't happened yet. And three months is a pretty meaningless line in the sand. The Tesco warehouse is probably stocked up for most of that.

Layers of societal and economic damage will be revealing themselves for years.

Blergh...errors in that post.

Come on now OP, don’t pretend you ever gave a shit about the people you’re wishing suffering upon, it’s clear from all your posts how much you hate fellow citizens with a different opinion to yours - how very dare they.

Meh, you seem a nasty piece of work so I’ll just dismiss your opinion as you do to others. And I voted remain. However I’d hate to be associated with you given your rotten attitude.

it’s clear from all your posts how much you hate fellow citizens with a different opinion to yours

But this is so reductive. Look, I haven't and don't align myself with the POV of not giving a shit about people - and the OP possibly doesn't deep down, but Brexit isn't about 'just having a different opinion.'

People are losing friends and family members through both ideology and moving abroad because of Brexit. They are having their European identity forcibly taken. We are being forced to live a way of life that we do not choose and would never have chosen.

We have the world staring at us in disbelief as we're collectively written off as a bunch of small-minded, ignorant racists.

It's all too fundamental to our sense of self. I TOTALLY get why people are so fucking angry that they say stuff they wouldn't otherwise say.

Brexit will divide this country for decades. It's unlikely to heal into a 'hey, different opinions, eh?' state for God knows how long.

Come on now OP, don’t pretend you ever gave a shit about the people you’re wishing suffering upon, it’s clear from all your posts how much you hate fellow citizens with a different opinion to yours - how very dare they

You know fuck all about me and what I've done to support my fellow citizens in the past and at the moment. No matter what their background or views. I have worked in public service all my life and know what issues are out there.

And yes - I am looking forward to the schadenfreude when they realise that their vote will fuck them up.

Though I am tempted to join the private sector and take advantage of the people who have fuck all ability to think critically and to understand economics and finances. One born every minute and all that - and thinking of yourself and not giving a shit about others is the fashion nowadays.