Anybody else DISGUSTED at the anti lockdown protestors!?

[Duemarch2021]

It makes me so angry that people are protesting about lockdown... yes its frustrating but it's being done for a reason... to try and prevent as many deaths as there would be without a lockdown... they are selfishly spreading covid and yhe police have to put themselves out there and risk their lifes to stop the gatherings! 😠 What do they think will happen!? That government will say ok- ok you win... go wild, have fun and mingle lets just forget covid now!?.....Does this make anybody else absolutely fuming at the human race!!!?

NZ and Aus have done well in controlling the virus, but at a huge cost to liberty. They mostly can't leave or return home if already abroad. Some can live with that, I imagine some are very unhappy.

A poster on another thread said something brilliant when talking about Covid.
Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose starts. I think that's equally applicable to civil liberties (and when we're talking about human rights, the right to life comes first). It's not a peaceful protest if you're putting millions of lives at risk.

Homelessness suicides are a genuinely very high number. It's a real issue when it comes to suicide. As is bereavement. And PTSD (very relevant, given that icu nurses were sectioned after the trauma of the first wave)..

Yes, I know that, sheep and I share your concern.

In any event you've missed my point. Which is it's good news that there's a newfound public concern about suicide. It means the government can see there's a public desire for something to be done tackle the major causes of it (housing issues, poverty, poorly funded mental health and social care services).

I’d like to think that’s true, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it still isn’t given due consideration by this government, sadly.

They have a right to protest. I care more about the protesting MPs to be honest. They carry more weight.

We have weeks to go now until the vaccine rollout I think they should just get behind the tiers now and the scientists. It all seems a bit late in the day for protesting.

Maddening yes, you’re right, we may never know the true extent of deaths resulting from lockdown as they won’t be captured and counted accurately.

@FamilyOfAliens

Just this particular protest... I've not once said protesting in general is wrong and I don't think it should be illegal

This post is ONLY about the lockdown protests.. my point is, it's a virus.. you can't protest against a virus. The government can't make it go away any quicker than they are trying so what's the point in the protest? They are proteating for freedom yes... don't we all want lockdown to end and business to reopen etc?..none of us want the life that 2020 brought us.. but protesters protest against soemthing to nake a point and change the outcome... so lets say they manage to 'persuade' the government and get the outcome they want which is lockdown to end and everything goes back to normal .. then what happens to us all??

I agree they have the right to protest, I don’t agree with why

And to all those on here you do agree that what they are doing is right, you obviously don’t agree that much as you are not joining them!

Doesn't need to be to the UK. They don't need us Brits. They'll be just fine with Australia and Asian Pacific countries.
And then there's the vaccines.

Sure. That wasn’t my point. My point is that once they properly open up again, which eggy will eventually have to, they will see cases arise, vaccines or no. The reality is they will have to learn to live with the virus to some extent like every other country. Comparing the UK to NZ is just unrealistic.

@SheepandCow

Very right!!!!!! Life is the most important thing in all of this

Yes it's horrible.

[quote Duemarch2021]@FamilyOfAliens

Just this particular protest... I've not once said protesting in general is wrong and I don't think it should be illegal

This post is ONLY about the lockdown protests.. my point is, it's a virus.. you can't protest against a virus. The government can't make it go away any quicker than they are trying so what's the point in the protest? They are proteating for freedom yes... don't we all want lockdown to end and business to reopen etc?..none of us want the life that 2020 brought us.. but protesters protest against soemthing to nake a point and change the outcome... so lets say they manage to 'persuade' the government and get the outcome they want which is lockdown to end and everything goes back to normal .. then what happens to us all??[/quote]
So you agree with right to protest, but only if you agree with what they're protesting about? I'm afraid it doesn't work like that.

@ElizabethG81

NZ and Aus have done well in controlling the virus, but at a huge cost to liberty. They mostly can't leave or return home if already abroad. Some can live with that, I imagine some are very unhappy.

An actual New Zealander posted about their country earlier this evening. Like she says, they (unlike us) really do have freedom.

They are living a largely normal life. Shops, cafes, pubs, restaurants all open. Hospitals running normally. Schools open as usual - with no disruptions of teachers, other staff, and children off sick, as they are here. No need for masks either.

They temporarily can't go on foreign holidays - but it's hardly the end of the world (with climate change, it might in fact help to save the world...). It's not as if they have 70,000 people dead and many others long-term disabled with Long Covid. Now that really is a terrible situation.Their internal tourism is flourishing too.

YABU, I'm absolutely delighted they protested and only wish more people would. Society is slowly turning into a horrible, totalitarian dystopia all for a virus with a 99.8% survival rate, based on dodgy data. It's complete madness. I can't believe it's taken people this long to start questioning it, and still so many think it's all totally fine. Thank goodness these people are standing up for our rights.

@ElizabethG81

No, that's not what I'm saying at all 😅..

It's not about me disagreeing with what they're protesting about, it's the fact that by protesting they are potentially spreading the virus! Which is what they are protesting about in the first place! Police have to gwt close to them to stop fights and drug taking...And for what reason? Protests are to change something... what are they trying to change?

@Tolleshunt

*Doesn't need to be to the UK. They don't need us Brits. They'll be just fine with Australia and Asian Pacific countries. And then there's the vaccines.*

Sure. That wasn’t my point. My point is that once they properly open up again, which eggy will eventually have to, they will see cases arise, vaccines or no. The reality is they will have to learn to live with the virus to some extent like every other country. Comparing the UK to NZ is just unrealistic.

What makes you think that? They have a competent government.

They'll do just fine not opening up straight away. And when they do, they'll do it sensibly and gradually.

Bar entry to less safe countries like the UK, also refuse entry to the unvaccinated, testing at airports if need be, checks and controls. They have no need to allow an immediate free for all.

Actually suicides have decreased this year. This may be due to people having been able to avoid things that might normally be triggering for them. Deaths due to missed cancer diagnoses etc are a different matter however.

"also refuse entry to the unvaccinated"

This is where we are headed, and this is why they are protesting.

So people keep saying its only a 1% death rate so we shouldn't worry.. I have lots of family and friends who would likely be in the low percentage of people who would die or become extremely ill due to many health complications and/or their age.. so maybe this is why it matters more to me than other people..

I totally admire them. There is a less than 1 percent chance of being seriously effected by Covid, but people are losing their jobs, people are suffering with awful mental health issues and our young people are the ones who will pay for this for years and years to come.

It's very easy to sit back and judge, but it takes bravery to stand up and be counted.

Thank goodness these people are standing up for our rights.

Didn't fancy turning up yourself, then?

@BloggersBlog

Ruddy idiots. Look at other countries that have stuck to the rule like NZ and how low their deaths are in proportion.

Pathetic and an embarrassment that people in the UK just cant be told.

But I mainly feel sorry for the policemen and women who have to deal with these jerks

I’ll say this as clearly as possible. Countries such as NZ and Australia (my country) are doing well with COVID because they are isolated, lowly populated islands with easily controlled borders. Our governments are no more competent or incompetent than any other. Our people are not more obedient or rule-abiding or easily ‘told’ or better at lockdowns that people in the UK. There were large lockdown protests in Australia too, especially in Victoria. We are doing well because of geography.

You know what - if there were a 1% chance of me winning the National Lottery, I'd be buying a ticket every fucking week.

@SunflowerButterfly

"also refuse entry to the unvaccinated"

This is where we are headed, and this is why they are protesting.

So they're protesting about the policies of other countries? They don't want other countries to have the freedom to make their own laws and regulations?

New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, Vietnam, and others have every right - the freedom - to choose who they allow in.

over 3 million people have been excluded from any help at all. 9 months with no money has driven people to the brink of suicide and in one week, they lost 3 people to suicide and that is just from the people they know about.

All that talk about no one being left behind in March was bullshit. This 2nd lockdown is bullshit and Christmas is just trying to win bonus points and also bullshit.

Some of those people protesting have nothing left anymore and exhausted all the means to get the government to listen to them.

It probably won't do anything, but it gets the back to people talking about them.

Rather than spend your time being "DISGUSTED" have a look as to why they are protesting. Its not all anti maskers, covid denying idiots.

@multivac

Thank goodness these people are standing up for our rights.

Didn't fancy turning up yourself, then?

If I lived nearer than maybe I would have, maybe I wouldn't! Did you go and fight for our rights today?