Anybody else DISGUSTED at the anti lockdown protestors!?

[Duemarch2021]

It makes me so angry that people are protesting about lockdown... yes its frustrating but it's being done for a reason... to try and prevent as many deaths as there would be without a lockdown... they are selfishly spreading covid and yhe police have to put themselves out there and risk their lifes to stop the gatherings! 😠 What do they think will happen!? That government will say ok- ok you win... go wild, have fun and mingle lets just forget covid now!?.....Does this make anybody else absolutely fuming at the human race!!!?

@GurpsAgain

Would that be when this government encouraged loads of people to go out and eat?

It’s doubtful because restaurants generally meet you at the door and show you to your table, requiring you to wear a mask when walking around. Tables are well spaced out.

Compare that to pubs where loads of people throng outside in the smoking areas without masks and talking animatedly like drunk people do. Being a truck driver who works the evenings and usually in city centres in the midlands, I’ve seen this countless times. The one pub I’ve been to since the start of it all was an eye opener too. Landlord was watching how many people came in, but once in they were all elbow to elbow at the bar.

Weirdly the pubs that I know of, have table only service. Shields up round the tables and you have to book.

Being someone who has worked in the industry and knows people still in it, I have seen that more times than people fighting at the bar to get served

As the vaccine is hopefully iminent cant we just hold on a little, the protestors cant really think their freedom to do as they please trumps the health of everyone.

Yes one thing that unites us all, I think, is that we're in agreement about the government well and truly buggering this all up!

Im in awe of scientists who have developed this vaccine so quickly. We obviously have some very talented people working in this field.

@SheepandCow Yep. People will still vote for them though unfortunately.

@Jenasaurus

As the vaccine is hopefully iminent cant we just hold on a little, the protestors cant really think their freedom to do as they please trumps the health of everyone.

You think that civil liberties will be restored? No chance Police state ruled by fear

@MercyBooth

Im in awe of scientists who have developed this vaccine so quickly. We obviously have some very talented people working in this field.

Yes definitely. They're all working so hard and it's fantastic to see what they can achieve.

It’s a bit strange they are still protesting when lockdown is about to end in a few days.

I'm actually in awe of people who don't realise the slippery slope we're on regarding how easily we've relinquished our freedoms. Now the government have realised just how easily we can be manipulated and just how well they can coerce us into compliance using our old and vulnerable against us, do you honestly think they won't continue to do so?

@MercyBooth talks a lot of sense. As far as the wider ethical argument goes, that's the part that keeps puzzling me. So you lose you job, your kids don't go to school for six months, they forget a lot of things. Your five year old is back in nappies (two children in my son's year one class!). You can't afford to move out of the two-bed flat you're in any more. You don't have a holiday. You don't see your parents. Etc. Maybe you can do this on behalf of people you've never met and fundamentally have nothing in common with. But it's a short-lived altruism. When people talk about WWII it seems the least reasonable comparison imaginable to me. No one, from the Royal Family down, was indifferent to being invaded by Nazi Germans. But lots of people are personally and privately indifferent to Covid. I've had it. So have many of my friends and students. My parents are dead. I'm the oldest person in my family, and I'm 41. I don't actually know a single person who was advised to shield and the oldest people I know are two colleagues (one has also had it and is fine) in their early 60s. I definitely don't want to live in a society where people are being piled into unmarked graves, but there are societies that I would consider more evil; they would include any regime where free speech and the right to protest was removed.

So you do all of those things. Then you have a dodgy mole, a lump in your breast, whatever. And there's no appointment. This is why my mother died of cancer in the summer -- diagnosed far too late, no one willing to see her in person, no operations unless they could be pretty sure of effecting a complete cure. There's a point at which people simply don't care enough, ie they don't care MORE about other people than themselves.

The part the puzzles me is the idea that our capacity for self-sacrifice on behalf of strangers should be infinite. We're not Jesus.

@DelphineWalsh

The lockdown is killing as many people by suicide as the number of people it is trying to save.

Nonsense. How many suicides have there been this year ? It won't be as high as 58k.

@greenlynx

It’s a bit strange they are still protesting when lockdown is about to end in a few days.

Anyone would think they wanted to drag things out. That and/or they hate the elderly, disabled, and NHS workers.

@hopsalong im so sorry to hear about your mum

Restricting people’s freedoms, destroying the economy for an infection with fear rate of less than 1%. What do you expect.

@Krampusnacht

I'm actually in awe of people who don't realise the slippery slope we're on regarding how easily we've relinquished our freedoms. Now the government have realised just how easily we can be manipulated and just how well they can coerce us into compliance using our old and vulnerable against us, do you honestly think they won't continue to do so?

Exactly! I have been checking the Coronavirus board on Mumsnet since March waiting to see when people will start waking up, it's so good to finally read more posts on here of people questioning what is happening. It does sicken me what people have so enthusiastically accepted:

• To be locked up in their homes indefinitely
• Complete isolation and no fresh air for 14 days if tested positive (truly horrifying)
• To be tracked and traced like cattle if you want to eat in restaurants
• Enforced masks and hand sanitiser rather than freedom of choice
• Destruction of small businesses, jobs and entire sectors
• Need I even go into the Coronavirus Act
• Deaths from cancer, suicide, domestic violence etc just seen as 'unfortunate collateral because at least they didn't die of covid'

I keep wondering what else will people accept, all in the name of safety from a virus that poses no threat for the vast majority of people? Where do they draw the line?

Not so much disgusted but it seems rather pointless to protest about lockdown when it ends in a few days anyway.

@MercyBooth

Id say people being locked down and being discouraged from putting their own families first and putting the safety of strangers they dont know first is the opposite of individualism personally Expecting people to continuously put ppl they dont know , before their own children has a shelf life.

Completely agree and I've been saying the same for a while now. I cannot and will not continue to be held accountable for the health of an entire country any more. My own family come first.

Brilliant post @SunflowerButterfly spot on.

I'm still unclear as to whether you are against protesting full stop, OP, or just this protest.

Is it true that the UK has 6 ICU beds per 100,000 people and Germany has 29?

@SunflowerButterfly

"also refuse entry to the unvaccinated"

This is where we are headed, and this is why they are protesting.

Once vaccines are generally available I'd be happy to see them become mandatory for international travel unless someone is medically exempt.

I'm and surprised by how many people don't agree with you Op, but then I think, this is why we have so many cases and why are daily death rate is do high.

Yes freedom is lovely, but can you minds not even manage to picture what would of and could happen if there were no restrictions?

I'm all for the right to protect (when safe to do so) but these idiots need to do as they're told and stop indirectly killing more people

"Once vaccines are generally available I'd be happy to see them become mandatory for international travel unless someone is medically exempt."

It's this kind of authoritarianism that really troubles me. Would you extend this to banning the Plague Ridden Unclean Unvaccinated from shops, schools, libraries, businesses, jobs etc too or just block them from getting on planes? What happened to My Body, My Choice?

And I say this as someone who has had all the vaccines, including last year's flu jab. I believe in freedom of choice, freedom of movement, freedom of bodily autonomy, and medical freedom and it troubles me greatly how it appears a lot of people don't share these values in this country.

"these idiots need to do as they're told"

Why are lockdown enthusiasts always such dictators!