To be fed up of people without a baby/child parking in the baby/child bays

[Nicknamegoeshere]

It drives me nuts.

Totally selfish.

@Nicknamegoeshere

No blue badge on display. Disabled bays free.

It is incredibly difficult to get a blue badge.

I was at the stage of needing two crutches to walk and couldn’t walk far and I still didn’t qualify.

*maclaren

I’ve never understood why parent and child spaces aren’t at the furthest end of the car park Make the spaces wider and a walkway or canopy - most parents only need a wider space to open car doors and can walk
That would stop lazy people parking in them

My youngest is 4 so I wouldn't use them now.

But when I had:

• 3 under 4;
• DH working late;
• sleep deprived
• family too far to help,
• Supermarket delivery failed to deliver key item...

....they were so helpful.

Disabled, elderly etc aside, it's pretty irritating when someone parks in them because they don't want to scratch their car.

The virtriol directed at a tired parent versus those who just fancy using them is staggering.

I remember those days - they were tough and lonely. Start being nicer.

Put the baby in the boot??? Really?

@Laundrybasketseverywhere live vicariously through me! I drove my speedy sports car into a parent and child space and IMMEDIATELY got told that the space wasn’t for me by a strangely worked up woman when I got out. I just said “oh right?” (Obviously have since thought of a trillion witty responses) and went round and got my little baby out of the passenger seat. 🖕🏻 random car park woman.

However, I do use them if I’m with my own mum and I rarely use them when I’m in the big car, I just park far away and wallow in unused spaces as lazy bastards wedge themselves in by the door. I’m a bit precious about my cars though.

So irritating. And when they do have a child, park in the space whilst one parent hops out to do a shop on their own and the other is sat in the children's parking bay WITH THE CHILD IN THEIR CAR. Ohhhh I get so annoyed with it!

@Winterwoollies 😁

The fault here is with the supermarkets for cramming too many spaces in. Cara are wider these days than they used to be and opening doors to put a baby seat in in a normal spaces can, genuinely, be impossible.

P&C spaces therefore ARE necessary and should be respected. Of course, the happy alternative is home delivery. That way you don't need to worry about an errant toddler, or a broken leg.

Not everyone is in an area that gets home delivery and if you’re on a tight budget and shopping in Aldi and Lidl, they don’t deliver.

Our local Asda have no relaid all the spaces to make them wider (still some people can’t manage to fit their tiny car between the lines though!)

No parent and child spaces at all but a decent amount of disabled spaces.

OP just order in online shopping rather than frequently taking your infant to the supermarket during a lockdown.

In Australia, most parent and child parks are the same width as a normal carpark but are closer to the door. We have never had the type of car seat that can be removed and it's easy enough for us to get the toddler in and out

I've been on mn a decade now. We haven't had a P&C for ages so it's perfectly reasonable tjat the op, who sounds like a new mum may not have seen it.. If you don't want to rehash old arguments you don't have to post. FWIW, my two penneth is simply this: Don't be a dick. They are not enforceable, a courtesy not a necessity. If you feel you need a wider space for whatever reason, use it, don't challenge people in them because whilst it's very possible they are just being selfish / lazy, it's not worth the aggro, but in the end I agree with the OP that life would be nicer if we all tried to be a bit more considerate and not unnecessarily take up a space we don't need. I find it weird that most people in here agree with tha general stance EXCEPT in relation to P&C spaces where you get the Olympics of 'I COPED WITH 11 CHILDREN, ONE LEG AND A PUSHBIKE'.

If the boot is full, put baby on the roof rack until you've backed out and can open the door fully

Why is it selfish to have children? With an ageing population we need children more than ever. Who else will pay back all the money spent on furloughing people?

Put your baby in the boot and back into the road to load them, so you can stop traffic while you load them and annoy all the people who want to drive out of the car park?

That wasn’t quite thought through was it? And dangerous for the baby. All so selfish people can justify and argue blind that the people that those space were designed for don’t deserve them as much as they do?

Is it BINGO if I say “it’s in the bloody name”? Parent and child, so sorry if you’re learning comprehension is so bad you think it actually says “special spot for you and your precious car and precious self who is too special to use the normal spots like those commoners”

Obviously nobody disputes disabled people using the spaces if the disabled bays are full. This is about the frustration felt when a perfectly able bodied person uses the space which is specially created for those who need it more. And I get your frustration OP, especially as mums with babies are sleep deprived and full of raw emotion and stress. You don’t need people saying “get the fuck on with it” like they’ve had an empathy bypass in order to justify their selfishness.

Also not to shine my halo too much, I never considered parking in a p&c bay until I had need to... like the majority of people I assumed...

[quote Nicknamegoeshere]@Feministicon Baby car seats are not magically collapsible![/quote]
I obviously know that having 3 children, there is plenty of room to get them out in a normal space (unless your car is ludicrously big) this is just such a non issue and you do need to have a word with yourself about moaning over a non enforceable privilege.

@littlejalapeno

Put your baby in the boot and back into the road to load them, so you can stop traffic while you load them and annoy all the people who want to drive out of the car park?

That wasn’t quite thought through was it? And dangerous for the baby. All so selfish people can justify and argue blind that the people that those space were designed for don’t deserve them as much as they do?

Is it BINGO if I say “it’s in the bloody name”? Parent and child, so sorry if you’re learning comprehension is so bad you think it actually says “special spot for you and your precious car and precious self who is too special to use the normal spots like those commoners”

Obviously nobody disputes disabled people using the spaces if the disabled bays are full. This is about the frustration felt when a perfectly able bodied person uses the space which is specially created for those who need it more. And I get your frustration OP, especially as mums with babies are sleep deprived and full of raw emotion and stress. You don’t need people saying “get the fuck on with it” like they’ve had an empathy bypass in order to justify their selfishness.

Also not to shine my halo too much, I never considered parking in a p&c bay until I had need to... like the majority of people I assumed...

Over this non issue she does need to get the fuck on with it.

@Feministicon why do you care about this so passionately? You’ve been a bit OTT and rude In Your language and responses. Was that your intention? All because someone wants to use the bay designated for them, to make their life easier at a time when it’s made hard?

I guess some people have PFBs and some people have PFCs

Perhaps take your own advice and have a word with yourself about policing other people’s frustrations?

You should be wary of keeping your very small baby in a car seat for prolonged periods of time. If she's "too small" for a pushchair (??) a wrap or slip would be your friend here. If she's plonked in a car seat, driven to the shops, pushed around the shops and then driven home without leaving the seat at all she could be spending far too long in it. Just saying.

[quote littlejalapeno]@Feministicon why do you care about this so passionately? You’ve been a bit OTT and rude In Your language and responses. Was that your intention? All because someone wants to use the bay designated for them, to make their life easier at a time when it’s made hard?

I guess some people have PFBs and some people have PFCs

Perhaps take your own advice and have a word with yourself about policing other people’s frustrations?[/quote]
Passionately 😂😂 It’s not OTT to me, so that’s where we have a difference of opinion. I haven’t had an empathy bypass but I don’t have a drop of it for nonsense like this. Don’t @ me if I’m not allowed to respond.

My local Asda has a hatched area between each P&C space so there is loads of room to get the doors open etc.

People have started to park in the hatched areas 😑

I mean my girls are a bit older (6 and 3) now so I can do without a P&C space but I think that’s a bit shit.

@Feministicon if you don’t want people to think you’re nasty, don’t act or write in a way that’s nasty. Just my opinion

[quote littlejalapeno]@Feministicon if you don’t want people to think you’re nasty, don’t act or write in a way that’s nasty. Just my opinion[/quote]
That’s fine, I honestly don’t mind what you think. I don’t think it’s nasty to have no sympathy for this and you do and we can agree to disagree.