What would you do? Teachers advise 🙏 please

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My 16 yr old dd has just called me in tears.
Currently in 6th form and has been having issues with a male teacher, quite young tries to be funny but often misses the mark.
Several time he’s made wtf comments etc
Today he announced loudly that ‘ Claire wears short skirts to attract the boys” and when no one responded as they were quite shocked he said it again louder.
Dd was so upset she left the room for the toilet and her friend brought her the bag as class was ending.
Dd feels shamed. Fwiw dd dresses totally appropriately. (Dds name is not really Claire)

Dd said she’s complained to another teacher at school about it. Apparently the teacher in question was very anxious when dd didn’t return to class and probably realised he’s overstepped and was asking the girls to txt dd.
What would you do? Leave it for dd to manage the follow up or step up and intervene.

I used to be a teacher. In my first year teaching a year 3 class I was modeling some poor writing and I accidentally said "this is just crap isn't it?" It just slipped out and a few of the kids seemed really shocked and I was terrified I was going to get complaints about inappropriate language from parents. At the end of the day I went to the deputy heads office in tears.

Anyway, this doesn't sound like that. He needs to be seriously pulled up. Especially, but not only, because it's not the first time. Go straight to the Head on this one and let them know how exactly how inappropriate this is and ask to be kept informed about the action taken.

Don't both with any year or subject manager. You go straight to the headteacher. This is very serious.

Sorry "bother".

This teacher is in deep deep s**t

You don't need safe guarding training to know that's wrong!

Teacher here.
Have known of a few other incidents like this. The sooner they are reported the better.
Put it all into writing with dates and times and exact quotations. Clearly state you want this investigating as a matter of urgent safeguarding before you escalate to governors/local authority.
Explain you feel, along with it being inappropriate, that it is blatant sexism and must breach the teachers code of conduct. Send the email and phone the school first thing to flag up your email as a matter of urgency due to safeguarding.

Your poor DD, this is just unacceptable, he needs to be dealt with.

Of course he’s very anxious, he’s in deep shit. Get in touch with the powers that be and put in a complaint to make sure it’s dealt with.

I'm a newish teacher and a big module during our training is on professionalism. How he talked about your daughter is not professional. We also focused on behaviour management techniques and how shaming children is inappropriate and ineffective. It doesn't sound like he was doing it to control behaviour, it sounds bullying and awful. I feel really sorry that your daughter had to experience that. You sound like fantastic parents though. I would call the school.

Nah, that's absolutely a serious Safeguarding Disclosure. The other girls will be able to verify what was said (and probably disclose other inappropriate things he has said to them).

Tell the DSL straight away. And include his reaction, as that's inappropriate as well.

I would step in. Completely inappropriate and she needs to know she doesn't put up with comments like that. She is also still young to be dealing with it herself.

I would also do it via email, have a written trail.

Complain. This is a serious conduct issue. Allow the school the chance to resolve it via the complaints procedure. Then complain to LEA/academy trust if the school don’t pursue it as a conduct issue.

I think your DD needs to see that inappropriate behaviour is not acceptable. Anything short of reporting it tells her that her feelings don't matter. It doesn't have to be emotive. Just a simple "teacher said....DD felt.... Could you deal with it."

As a secondary teacher I occasionally make jokes and am sometimes sarcastic but this is way beyond the line!!! Definitely tell the head teacher but also tell if you can work it out his line manager (head of department for whatever subject...) and your DDs head of year!!! Don’t just tell head teacher!!!!!

A joke to me is funny and not one that would make someone cry!!!

Completely out of line and a concern. Ask to be contacted by the headteacher regarding a safeguarding concern about a teacher. This shouldn't go through head of year (although they're the person I'd usually say for most situations). I have had something very similar to this with a teacher I line managed - a student had spoken to someone in SLT about it who had to inform the head immediately. I think in their case it was misguided 'humour' and showed seriously questionable judgement and it will be remembered in case there are any other pieces of the puzzle that come to light (hopefully not!)

Please email the school so that they have it written down. This is completely unacceptable. Your poor daughter.

Another teacher here saying that his comments and behaviour were totally and utterly inappropriate. It doesn't matter how "new" he is. I would ask to speak to the safeguarding lead in the first instance.

Okay - I’m normally a great believer in speaking to teachers themselves in the first instance, rather than instantly going over their heads. But this is pretty dreadful and I think merits an email to the head, not least because your DD was so distressed. He was completely inappropriate.

We’ve downloaded the appropriate complaint form from the website and are going to send it to the head teacher immediately as per the guidelines.

Thank you everyone for your guidance

Good.

@NataliaOsipova

Okay - I’m normally a great believer in speaking to teachers themselves in the first instance, rather than instantly going over their heads. But this is pretty dreadful and I think merits an email to the head, not least because your DD was so distressed. He was completely inappropriate.

^^ this is me, I think that’s why I wanted input from others.

Yes, it needs reporting to the safeguarding lead.

Call school. He needs to know that he overstepped. I’d speak directly to him and explain how inappropriate it was. Give him a chance to apologise to you and DD.

Only take a step up the chain if his response is dismissive. Leave yourself an escalation point at all stages. The head or his line manager will just bounce it back down to him to deal with first.

And what he said was awful. Hopefully he is just young and thoughtless and not a total twat. But he needs to apologise.

That is appalling, it is sexual harassment and would constitute gross misconduct in a lot of workplaces (most really). I can't see a school being any different.

The fact that he is a new teacher is irrelevant. Your poor daughter.

Absolutely not ok.