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To think that Charles and Camila are actually an example of genuine love

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Noddyandbiggerears · 25/11/2020 21:58

Yes of course I feel sorry for Diana. Yes I think being a royal has a huge impact. But they let young and are now still together and seemingly happy in their 70’s, despite a lot of shunning, negative press, etc.

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PurpleFlower1983 · 25/11/2020 22:49

Absolutely, she was clearly ‘the one’, it’s just a shame there was so much collateral damage as a result of an old fashioned monarchy.

Noddyandbiggerears · 25/11/2020 22:51

@GabsAlot you do know that Diana had quite a few affairs too right?

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GabsAlot · 25/11/2020 22:51

ther were 3 people in our marriage

i always remember that

Applesonthelawn · 25/11/2020 22:51

I thought she never actually seemed that interested in him, more besotted with her own husband no matter how much he misbehaved. Charles seemed more like her trophy on the side until it became so high profile that she couldn't not marry him.

However you look at it they did a lot of damage to Diana and it was pretty nasty.

GabsAlot · 25/11/2020 22:51

because he was absent from their marriage

Vintagevixen · 25/11/2020 22:52

Kanga Tryon was one. Lots of whispers about certain "it" girls. Rumors about certain employees.

Aristos having the morals of alley cats is about right - I fail to see Charles and Camilla as some sort of star crossed lovers as betrayed by the crown, she was just the acceptable face of it!

GlummyMcGlummerson · 25/11/2020 22:52

It’s certainly not about looks though because Camilla looks like rod hull

Hmm

Can we have one thread about a middle aged woman where someone doesn't make nasty remarks about her looks?

I’ve always got the impression they were more like friends now. Sure they might have had passion years ago but I don’t see much of it now and Charles could hardly divorce a second time after they broke up his first marriage.

Nah, he's her little tampon GrinEnvy (not envy)

CourgettiSpaghetti · 25/11/2020 22:52

Is that you Camilla?

GlummyMcGlummerson · 25/11/2020 22:53

[quote Noddyandbiggerears]@chillibeansauce it’s interesting - anyone who’s met/coke across her always seems to like her.[/quote]
I did coke across Camilla once. Very flat stomach, and so obliging

MythsandSparkles · 25/11/2020 22:54

@GabsAlot

ther were 3 people in our marriage

i always remember that

From what’s come out since Diana’s death there were at least 4 Grin

I think they’re all as bad as each other, it’s nice that C&C are happy now, atrocious what happened with them all in the ‘80’s

I wish Diana was still alive so the St Diana phenomenon wouldn’t have happened - she was as human as the rest of us.

Fizzydrinks123 · 25/11/2020 22:54

Definitely not, can't respect either of them.

chillibeansauce · 25/11/2020 22:56

Totally off topic, but, i can imagine Diana would have been the mother in law from hell.

veeeeh · 25/11/2020 22:56

They each have their own houses to retreat to. Isn't that the great key to individual happiness now and then.

I hope they are happy but in reality to be able to live separately but together at times works for those with lots of money doesn't it? .

As for the rest of us, well you know the score.

GreenlandTheMovie · 25/11/2020 22:57

I've thought this was a great love story for a long time. Things are different in aristocratic circles, or at least they were then. Yes, its a shame what happened to Diana, as she was genuinely in love and then devastated. But Camilla and Charles have endured everything and to be fair on Charles, he is one of very few men who have not chosen the younger blonde over his long term girlfriend. And that is a very rare thing.

Noddyandbiggerears · 25/11/2020 22:57

@GlummyMcGlummerson 😂

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CoronaIsWatching · 25/11/2020 22:57

I see the latest series of The Crown has really spun the Royal PR machine into overdrive Hmm

For "genuine love" this pair spend 99% of their time separate..separate residences, separate lives. I think they're a horrible pair.

HardlyEver · 25/11/2020 22:57

Honestly, the British public seems to lovely largely mythical tales of star-crossed lovers forced apart by courtiers and royal protocol. I don’t think Charles and Camilla is any more really that than Princess Margaret was ultimately forbidden to marry Peter Townsend. Neither are Romeo and Juliet.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 25/11/2020 22:57

I wish Diana was still alive so the St Diana phenomenon wouldn’t have happened - she was as human as the rest of us

Oh now be fair - what she did for the AIDS cause was phenomenal. People forget that people with AIDS were treated like lepers, they were cast out from friends, families, businesses, workplaces, there was scaremongering ride - and she went up and shook the hand of a man with AIDS. This doesn't sounds much but at the time it was incredible. She changed the narrative around AIDS.

Her work around removing landmines has also saved thousands of lives.

This was all done after she was married, she didn't have to but she did.

Vintagevixen · 25/11/2020 22:58

I remember all the flower laying at Kensington palace, saint Diana nonsense, never bought into it even at the time.

Nottherealslimshady · 25/11/2020 22:58

I dont care if they love eachother. It's disgusting what they did to Diana and those boys. Absolutely sick. He could have sacrificed something himself but no, ruin someone elses life and drag two kids into a fucked up family just so you have an heir.
Cant stand the pair of them.

jollygreenpea · 25/11/2020 22:59

@keeprocking

I find the comments, generally, very interesting, I lived through the Diana days and always thought she seemed very fake . Once she died she became risen to sainthood and if you defended Charles at all the majority would go ballistic. The current generation seems far more realistic about that tragic period, laying the majority of the fault with their families. One other thing where I tended to buck the trend of opinion was about the Queen in the week later, the TV news programmes carried numerous interviews with wailers outside Buck House asking Why wasn't the Queen her with her grieving people? When I tried to argue that she was, for the first time ever in her reign probably, putting family first and caring for her heart-broken grandsons, oh no, she should be in London, leaving thm in Scotland presumably' So glad that sense is entering the discussion.
Couldn't agree more keeprocking
Coffeeandcocopops · 25/11/2020 22:59

Neither of them cared about Diana or the impact their affair would have on the royal family and their children. If he was my father I’m not sure I would have a good relationship with him.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 25/11/2020 22:59

@Vintagevixen

I remember all the flower laying at Kensington palace, saint Diana nonsense, never bought into it even at the time.
I remember reading theories about how the public's huge overreaction to her death can be a result of emotionally oppressed people finding a public outlet to grieve - even if they weren't actually grieving Diana
Coffeeandcocopops · 25/11/2020 23:01

@GreenlandTheMovie

I've thought this was a great love story for a long time. Things are different in aristocratic circles, or at least they were then. Yes, its a shame what happened to Diana, as she was genuinely in love and then devastated. But Camilla and Charles have endured everything and to be fair on Charles, he is one of very few men who have not chosen the younger blonde over his long term girlfriend. And that is a very rare thing.
Let’s set the bar low for men as usual.
tolerable · 25/11/2020 23:02

actually ccaught mtyself getting of the fence there.yabu