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Ds has requested a very expensive present when I've completely finished my shopping - what to do?

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lurchersrule · 22/11/2020 15:35

He's 13 and our rule has always been 'you don't get everything on your list', but as ds's have always been tiny lists. he always does get everything! This year he asked for a detailed map of the British Isles and book about law, so I obviously bought them. I also got him a Chromebook as we have my work laptop and his phone and during lockdown he had to use an old, cheap laptop we had forgotten about - it only cost £120 new and is pretty shit. After lockdown Ds carried on using it for researching his interests and doing things like making election prediction maps, or whatever he's into at one time, so I thought he'd like an upgrade to a proper Chromebook. I didn't get the cheapest and got one for about £400 on Prime day. This is probably roughly the same or a bit more than what I usually spend on each child, so I planned to just get him sweets and not a lot else.

Then he came home today from his dad's and sat down looking pensive and said could he ask for another present. Turns out he wants a gaming PC! He's jut realised his friends have them and are playing a game together that's not on Xbox (we have one). I know Chromebooks are no good for this. I couldn't have predicted it - he's never mentioned it before and, while he goes through phases of liking Xbox, it's never been an obsession and he didn't even buy the new Fifa this year, which he normally does.

What do I do? I hate to not get him the one thing he really wants, especially as this is the only time in his life he's ever asked for anything expensive. His birthday was shit this year as it was late March and most of his presents and his party were experience based and had to be cancelled, but he didn't complain or anything.

PArt of the problem is that DS2 hasn't asked for anything big this year either, but has a long list of small-medium, items that I will/have got several items of. He sees glitter speakers as being a 'main' gift, but in terms of cost they're no comparison to what this PC will cost. But ds2 already has a gaming PC as ex got him one. I had threads about it - he tried to make ds2 pay out his entire savings because he wanted him to have it at his house to avoid ds going on his (ex's) iPad all the time. I stood my ground and ex paid for the PC in full, which was good but meant he essentially got a much bigger present than ds1 last year from ex, who normally only spends about £20 each on them max. (got it late January but ex got him nothing for Christmas as it was 'coming') so maybe this evens it out with him having lower-key gifts this Christmas.

Also, what do I do about the Chrome? Bit gutted about that as I was excited about giving it to him. If I spend a further £500-600 on a PC that would mean I'd have spent £1k on ds1 which is unheard of, and about £200 on ds2, which is too big a gap. Even assuming I don't give ds1 the Chrome the money is still spent, and I want him to have it as in some ways it'll be more useful than the PC because of them having to move between houses.

I thought of asking ds2 to contribute to the PC from his savings. He has enough to buy the whole thing, which I wouldn't want, but if he paid about £200 and I got the rest, maybe I could then give him the Chrome (and nothing else) for his birthday? And that wouldn't be too unfair? Or present the Chrome as a shared gift? But that's a bit shit really as neither of them really wants it and neither would use it if they both had PCs/their phones. Also, I'm worried about the unfairness as both kids know I refused to let ds2 go into his savings for his PC so it will look bad if I make ds1 go into his? But that happened because ex was being a dick and ds2 does tend to piss his money away while ds1 rarely spends.

I can afford it by dipping into savings and perhaps using a credit card - never normally do that for Christmas but I have a fairly sizable inheritance currently in probate which means I could justify it this year.

Sorry, I know it's long and boring but his request has knocked me so any advice would be great!

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shiningstar2 · 22/11/2020 20:40

I would try to return the Chrome. He sounds like a nice kid who you say rarely asks for anything expensive. Kids of that age like to do things with their friends and if his friends are on this game thing all winter he will feel very left out. Understandable if the money just isn't there but if it is it seems a pity to spend it on one thing when he'd rather have another. If the Chrome you bought is still boxed and you have the receipt I think you might be ok. I had to do something like that one year with an ipad. Smile

TatianaBis · 22/11/2020 20:44

Gaming pcs just need a lot of RAM, fast processor, good graphics card and a good monitor. I say this as someone whose kids aren’t allowed to game, but I need good graphics/memory for my job and my pc has the same specs as a gaming pc.

If you research you can get a non-gaming pc with the same specs as one that is marketed as gaming without paying a premium for for the flashing lights and styling.

AnotherEmma · 22/11/2020 20:44

@lurchersrule

Well, it's not very magical but I ended up talking to him about it and he very graciously said that while Chromebook was a good idea he definitely would like a PC and is happy for it to be joint Christmas/birthday present, and to contribute from his savings. I feel a bit shit about having spoken to him but from what people are saying on here I need to know exactly what he wants to do with it before deciding what to get. He' going to speak to his friends and find out what they use and has been doing some research as well.

Ds2 is relieved too - he knew about the Chromebook and told me he was 'shooketh', as he puts it, when ds1 mentioned asking me for a PC.

Yes, their dad is a knob. If anything he probably favours ds1 in terms of attention as they have a shared hobby which ds2 hates. He didn't set out to get ds2 a PC though - he tried to facilitate him spending his savings on it for his own convenience, but I prevented it. Bit of a car crash really but ended well and meant we had three computers in the house for lockdown, which proved invaluable.

Sounds like a good outcome, glad you talked to him. For big purchases like that I think it's more important to discuss and get it right than to keep the surprise.
TatianaBis · 22/11/2020 20:47

Medion do very reasonably priced gaming pcs. It’s part of Lenovo.

Noti23 · 22/11/2020 20:49

I wish I had these problems...

Toomuchtrouble4me · 22/11/2020 21:01

sorry - got bored, do as you please

sugarbum · 22/11/2020 21:12

just return the chromebook. get a refurbished gaming pc so you get more for your money. We got one from Microdream for DS1 (13) two years ago and its still going strong.

AaronPurr · 22/11/2020 21:15

Absolutely no reason why anybody has to price match presents , if all the children are getting what they’ve asked for or would like

Of course not, but a £500 gift vs a £20 one is a massive difference.

I'm really pleased you've managed to talk to him OP, and it seems like a sensible plan going forward.

Dawnlassie · 22/11/2020 21:16

Its not just about the computer though is it. You need to think about the wider situation

  1. what if DS2 had a big present at the back of their mind that they knew was too expensive so didnt mention? If they hear about the money you are spending on DS1 then they might make requests you will find difficult to refuse
  2. It sets a new precedent about how much money gets spent on their presents.
  3. They are not learning that sometimes the answer is no.

Think long and hard about all the potential ways this can pan out.

When I was a kid me and my sibling had a £100 limit for our main presents and we used to look through the Argos book and pick something out. Easy for us and easy for our parents. Perhaps you should look at strict monetary limits in future to avoid this scenario.

IdblowJonSnow · 22/11/2020 21:20

Return the chrome if u can and get him what he's asked for.
If you can't then get him the gaming thing for his birthday instead.
I wouldn't get both for xmas. Way too much.

lurchersrule · 22/11/2020 21:49

Many thanks to everyone who has posted technical advice - much appreciated and I'll definitely be looking at it all as I'm clueless in this department!

Noti23 Don't worry, I have plenty of other, less 'first worldy' problems, but this thread isn't about them. For a start, I'd much rather not have the inheritance and still have my aunty...

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Porridgeoat · 23/11/2020 00:48

Buy him an x box for Christmas. Give the chrome book as either a birthday gift, a joint Xmas gift or a one off holiday covid lockdown gift.

TheSunIsStillShining · 23/11/2020 01:25

Simply no. I understand pee pressure and such, but still no. Our son wanted an xbox when he was 12. We didn't even have a tv. And we couldn't afford it from floating money (anything that is not a loan - like a credit card).
So he had to be the only boy in the universe who didn't have one. He's 15 now, so he survived.
And I didn't feel guilty for a second. Life's tough. Get used to it.

Lweji · 23/11/2020 01:35

Buy him an x box for Christmas.

They have one.

In any case, and as he needs a computer for school work, a PC is always better than any console.

Good to read your update, OP.
They seem like good brothers and very sensible.

Isoisoisolation · 23/11/2020 01:41

Return the chrome book and get this...?

Ds has requested a very expensive present when I've completely finished my shopping - what to do?
Ds has requested a very expensive present when I've completely finished my shopping - what to do?
ThistleWitch · 23/11/2020 07:31

@DumplingsAndStew

On what planet do you buy a Chromebook on offer for £400, but a gaming PC only costs £5-600??
You can get chromebooks from around 170 up
DumplingsAndStew · 23/11/2020 08:02

@ThistleWitch

I'm aware of that. So how did the OP manage to spend £400 on one on offer??

lurchersrule · 23/11/2020 08:33

I paid more than the minimum because I thought it would be better quality. Like many items there is a wide price range available and I, perhaps wrongly, and based on reviews on Amazon, thought that paying more would result in a better quality item. I've looked into returning it and it was actually £350, reduced from £420. I really wanted him to have one where the screen flips around and it stands up like a triangle thing - that was one of the features I paid more for. It had 4.5 stars on Amazon from hundreds of reviews. but irrelevant now as it's not what he wants for his purpose.

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Pikachubaby · 23/11/2020 08:38

Return the chrome book

Buy a desktop with decent specs for gaming

Pikachubaby · 23/11/2020 08:41

The Chromebook purchase you made makes sense to me as I did the same thing last year Grin

But yeah, you get much better speed/performance from a desktop

Bear in mind you’ll need a monitor too

For my DS around that age, I bought the desktop but we used an old tv for monitor, then gave him an amazing monitor for his birthday 7 weeks later

canigooutyet · 23/11/2020 09:10

If you go and buy them ready made of course they can cost 1k+, same with a desktop depending on memory, hd etc.

Motherboards don't have to cost several hundred either. One of the things mine enjoyed was sourcing quality but reasonably priced parts. When the hard drive was replaced, a decent amount was saved because the case wasn't needed.
Monitor - they work wonderfully on tv screens.

Someone asked how - here is a good starting point
www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/gaming/resources/how-to-build-a-gaming-pc.html

DumplingsAndStew · 23/11/2020 09:35

@canigooutyet

Thanks for the great link. Upgrading DCs PC as we go, so saved that as it will come in handy.

Dontstepinthecowpat · 23/11/2020 09:51

I think we might have the same sons. DS1 is 13 next week and sounds so much like your son and thanks to this thread I’m going to look into a gaming pc for him. He has an Xbox but rarely plays it and enjoys a rollercoaster game on my Mac which he had to do through some special software that I have no clue about as they don’t sell the game for Mac. I’m going to get him the game your son plays as it sounds right up his street. He doesn’t ask for anything but was saying last week he feels a bit sad at school as none of his friends are into Harry Potter or rollercoaster but I know some of them game so he could hopefully join in this way. Hope it all sorts it’s self out for you and your lovely boys.

movingonup20 · 23/11/2020 09:55

I would return the chromebook, they are if limited use in my experience, only suitable for web browsing and email. A reconditioned gaming pc can be bought for a similar amount then upgraded in the future as his needs change

yoyo1234 · 23/11/2020 11:25

Glad it sounds like you are returning chrome book and getting gaming pc. Can I just say that my eldest was like your DS with interests. He got a gaming PC ( similar age) a yearish pre lockdown. It has changed him Hmm. During lockdown he used it for online school and it was hard to monitor screen time as he went online as I WFH. His friends also gamed ( so good socially). Now back at school it has affected him. Personally I really regret the purchase.

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