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Ds has requested a very expensive present when I've completely finished my shopping - what to do?

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lurchersrule · 22/11/2020 15:35

He's 13 and our rule has always been 'you don't get everything on your list', but as ds's have always been tiny lists. he always does get everything! This year he asked for a detailed map of the British Isles and book about law, so I obviously bought them. I also got him a Chromebook as we have my work laptop and his phone and during lockdown he had to use an old, cheap laptop we had forgotten about - it only cost £120 new and is pretty shit. After lockdown Ds carried on using it for researching his interests and doing things like making election prediction maps, or whatever he's into at one time, so I thought he'd like an upgrade to a proper Chromebook. I didn't get the cheapest and got one for about £400 on Prime day. This is probably roughly the same or a bit more than what I usually spend on each child, so I planned to just get him sweets and not a lot else.

Then he came home today from his dad's and sat down looking pensive and said could he ask for another present. Turns out he wants a gaming PC! He's jut realised his friends have them and are playing a game together that's not on Xbox (we have one). I know Chromebooks are no good for this. I couldn't have predicted it - he's never mentioned it before and, while he goes through phases of liking Xbox, it's never been an obsession and he didn't even buy the new Fifa this year, which he normally does.

What do I do? I hate to not get him the one thing he really wants, especially as this is the only time in his life he's ever asked for anything expensive. His birthday was shit this year as it was late March and most of his presents and his party were experience based and had to be cancelled, but he didn't complain or anything.

PArt of the problem is that DS2 hasn't asked for anything big this year either, but has a long list of small-medium, items that I will/have got several items of. He sees glitter speakers as being a 'main' gift, but in terms of cost they're no comparison to what this PC will cost. But ds2 already has a gaming PC as ex got him one. I had threads about it - he tried to make ds2 pay out his entire savings because he wanted him to have it at his house to avoid ds going on his (ex's) iPad all the time. I stood my ground and ex paid for the PC in full, which was good but meant he essentially got a much bigger present than ds1 last year from ex, who normally only spends about £20 each on them max. (got it late January but ex got him nothing for Christmas as it was 'coming') so maybe this evens it out with him having lower-key gifts this Christmas.

Also, what do I do about the Chrome? Bit gutted about that as I was excited about giving it to him. If I spend a further £500-600 on a PC that would mean I'd have spent £1k on ds1 which is unheard of, and about £200 on ds2, which is too big a gap. Even assuming I don't give ds1 the Chrome the money is still spent, and I want him to have it as in some ways it'll be more useful than the PC because of them having to move between houses.

I thought of asking ds2 to contribute to the PC from his savings. He has enough to buy the whole thing, which I wouldn't want, but if he paid about £200 and I got the rest, maybe I could then give him the Chrome (and nothing else) for his birthday? And that wouldn't be too unfair? Or present the Chrome as a shared gift? But that's a bit shit really as neither of them really wants it and neither would use it if they both had PCs/their phones. Also, I'm worried about the unfairness as both kids know I refused to let ds2 go into his savings for his PC so it will look bad if I make ds1 go into his? But that happened because ex was being a dick and ds2 does tend to piss his money away while ds1 rarely spends.

I can afford it by dipping into savings and perhaps using a credit card - never normally do that for Christmas but I have a fairly sizable inheritance currently in probate which means I could justify it this year.

Sorry, I know it's long and boring but his request has knocked me so any advice would be great!

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caringcarer · 23/11/2020 18:39

My son wants a the new Xbox X series and I can't get it anywhere. It is advertised for £450 but the only one I can find, and I have tried every single day, is one on ebay for £850. Clearly someone got one purely to sell for a profit. Playstation 5 is also in short supply. Don't assume you will just be able to pick one up because you really won't. As you ex paid for son 2 to have a gaming computer last year would he pay for son 1 to have one this year? Honestly he will use the Chromebook more and as you point out it is portable and he will use it for school work too. I would sit him down and tell him you can't get him an Xbox Xseries because their are none left in the shops or Playstation 5 either. I would give him the Chromebook and promise him a Xbox series X for his birthday in March. He sounds like a good kid and not demanding so I'd hope he would understand. Ask your son2 to let him have a go on his gaming machine so he does not feel left out with his friendship group. I only ever spend about £100 on main gift and then another £60 or so on stocking for each child. This year has been shit, with no birthday party etc so I have bought foster son 14 a cricket net, matting and bowling machine for his garden. It is not even new but vg condition second hand but it cost me £330 and £110 to hire van to collect and store and we will have to have garden levelled and a diagonal concrete strip all across back garden. But he will absolutely love it and my children understand they will get less because they are much older. Sometimes it does not hurt to treat a good child occasionally. It is a solution to your issue.

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MsJudgemental · 23/11/2020 18:43

Return the laptop and get him the gaming pc or get him to research the components he needs and help him get those. He will be able to do far more with it, including school work, than a Chromebook. DS, 20, built his own gaming PC and regularly upgrades the various parts. He is involved in online gaming competitions, does his socialising during lockdowns, is an electronic dance music composer and producer, and is currently aiming for a first in his Computer Science MEng, currently all delivered online. It can be a very positive thing.

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fionamadcat · 23/11/2020 19:48

Do you know anyone (or is ds) technically minded? My ds built his own gaming pc when he was 16, he researched what parts he needed and sorted it all out himself, was much cheaper than buying ready built. He’s upgraded it since and still works great, he’s at uni now so has left it at home.

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Mermaid67 · 23/11/2020 19:57

I can't get over spending £400 on each child!

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Pikachubaby · 23/11/2020 20:02

@Mermaid67 I know!

But how old are your kids?

I find that now my teens are 16 and 18 it’s easy to do (unthinkable at primary age, when I spent maybe 120 max)

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MLMbotsgoaway · 23/11/2020 20:10

Aw your sons both sound lovely.

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Bikingbear · 23/11/2020 20:13

@Mermaid67

I can't get over spending £400 on each child!

Stuff in general for older kids is expensive. Bikes can easily be £300
Consoles and the extras to go with them again is easily a few hundred pounds.

And I'm not saying kids would get both in the same year but older kids aren't cheap.
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masterchef98 · 23/11/2020 20:22

It sounds like you're getting it sorted. I have no idea what eu4 is and know little about games but it doesnt sound like a high spec game from what you said. What is your dd saving up for, or is it money put aside rather than him saving pocket money? Mine are lucky to get past £20 in savings (that they know about) but if they did have money and wanted to spend it on something we were happy about they would just get it.

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masterchef98 · 23/11/2020 20:22

Ds1, sorry

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Elfieishere · 23/11/2020 20:29

@Mermaid67

I can't get over spending £400 on each child!

It’s not really a lot when they turn into teens... a games console, iPad, iPhone, laptops etc

It’s not cheap.
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sofiaaaaaa · 23/11/2020 20:30

@TatianaBis

1. Acers rank fairly low on reliability surveys.
  1. Laptops are never as fast and powerful as desktop PCs.
  2. It’s easier to replace and upgrade components in desktops than on laptops.
  3. That laptop does not have much memory. 250GB SSD may not be sufficient for storing school work + photos + music + downloaded films.
  4. An Intel Core i5-8300H or i5-9300H is a better processor than AMD Ryzen 5 3550H.


On the plus side a laptop is more practical for child living between 2 houses.

This post sounds like it’s based upon your own preferences, rather than his.

He isn’t likely to want to replace the individual components at 13. I mean, he isn’t interested in running graphic/performance intensive games to begin with so this is sufficient for what he wants.

Laptops can certainly be as fast as PCs. It’s not like this one is the lowest spec available. Again, he isn’t after maximum power.

Who even downloads films and music anymore? Certainly not a 13 year old. I’m early 20s and stream everything, the younger generation will only be more tech advanced. Extra storage is the easiest thing to supplement regardless.
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mycatscausehell · 23/11/2020 20:46

@lurchersrule

So ds has just come home and thrown the curve ball that his friend has recommended a gaming laptop (the one linked to below). Apparently, his older brother has it and he (ds's friend) has asked for it for Christmas! Going by all the comments on here it seems too cheap to me, but I've done some research and found that in principle a gaming laptop would be okay as ds isn't a pro-gamer and not likely to be one, and it being portable would be great for him going between two houses.

Aside from EU4 he says he's like to go on Fifa, other EU4 type stuff that's as yet undiscovered, and Minecraft.

www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-laptops/acer-nitro-5-15-6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-gtx-1650-256-gb-ssd-10205931-pdt.html

It seems too cheap but I've tried to look up the minimum requirements for Fifa but I really can't make sense of it!

I have the one thats one or two up from that one and its great for me, I use it for all my work as well as gaming. minecraft will run fine on it, as will other games like tombraider 2013 etc
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Jeeperscreepers69 · 23/11/2020 21:27

Return chrome

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Duemarch2021 · 23/11/2020 21:32

Could you swap the chrome book for a gaming pc? Thaat eay he can olay his game and use it for his work too? I didnt read the whole thread so sorry if i missed something x

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AnotherEmma · 23/11/2020 21:35

@Duemarch2021

Could you swap the chrome book for a gaming pc? Thaat eay he can olay his game and use it for his work too? I didnt read the whole thread so sorry if i missed something x

CANCEL THE CHEQUE, OP! 🤣
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lurchersrule · 23/11/2020 21:59

Thanks everyone - the deed is done and I've cancelled the Chrome and ordered the slightly better Acer one than the one I linked to. This thread has helped me so much -with no family around it's hard making decisions like this and people's comments, especially the slightly techy ones, have really helped.

With him contributing £150 of his savings (it's pocket money he's never spent, not his main savings, which are inaccessible) it won't cost me that much more than the Chrome did, and it's covered Xmas and birthday apart from sundries so I'm happy. Actually, I forgot he had 2 residential school trips cancelled this year as well (I've put that money aside in case they rebook for next year) and again didn't complain so he definitely deserves a treat.

Thanks all Flowers Flowers

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masterchef98 · 23/11/2020 22:05

Glad it is all sorted for you. Sounds like you will have 2 happy boys at christmas.

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Whatwouldyourmamado · 23/11/2020 22:07

OP I am glad you got this sorted

I read through your posts and was going to suggest a gaming laptop from Currys.

Despite what people say for basic online gaming they are fine. For various reasons my dad has to use a laptop and plays call of duty absolutely fine on it plus normal work etc.

What you may also want him to look into is buying a separate mouse, keyboard and monitor for at home as it can be easier.

I would also suggest a wireless mouse so that he can take it with him if he goes to his dads with the laptop.

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TatianaBis · 23/11/2020 22:17

This post sounds like it’s based upon your own preferences, rather than his.

Nope, just objective comments. I have both - laptops and desktops are useful for different things.

He isn’t likely to want to replace the individual components at 13. I mean, he isn’t interested in running graphic/performance intensive games to begin with so this is sufficient for what he wants.

I was referring to when a component goes wrong. Much easier to replace on desktop.

Laptops can certainly be as fast as PCs. It’s not like this one is the lowest spec available. Again, he isn’t after maximum power.

It’s not that laptops can’t get decent speeds, they’re just not as fast and powerful as desktops.

Who even downloads films and music anymore? Certainly not a 13 year old. I’m early 20s and stream everything, the younger generation will only be more tech advanced. Extra storage is the easiest thing to supplement regardless.

My teens do. They stream mostly, but also download movies they want to keep (and make their own). Regardless of whether he downloads anything, 250GB will fill up very quickly. Extra storage is much easier to add onto a desktop.

That said, as I commented in my post, the fact that he’s living between 2 homes makes a laptop a plus in this case.

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adnilc · 23/11/2020 22:26

I would explain that you have already purchased his Christmas present, but that if he really wanted the PC it would have to be classed as an early birthday present. Then, once his birthday arrived just buy him a small token present.

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Mermaid67 · 23/11/2020 22:44

I suppose everything’s more expensive now, ours are early 20s, just don’t think I could see us spending that on each child! That adds up to a lot of money😮

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copperoliver · 23/11/2020 23:12

Could you not get the pc but say everyone can use it and give your son a time slot for gaming. X

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DipSwimSwoosh · 23/11/2020 23:29

So in his house he will have
An old laptop
A phone
Your computer
A chromebook

He mentioned he'd like a PC. He doesn't need one. Just tell him not this year.

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bexollie · 23/11/2020 23:34

What is wrong with a child not getting what ever they want ? In life we don't get what we want all the time. Kids should be satisfied with what presents they get .
Some kids get next to nothing and would appreciate presents. Stick with what he has got because its not necessary to buy things just because mates have it .
My child hasn't given a list , he will have what I have brought him because over the year I've listened to the things he said he likes etc . Also imagine life with little money and a few kids to buy for. My 28 year old and 23 year old plus my two grandkids and my younger 13 year old all get the same amount, they all have nice things and all understand its more than presents . After a year we have had we should all be thankful

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SisyphusDad · 23/11/2020 23:38

Sorry but from my experience the Chromebook was a mistake. Kids want to be able to play games. The fact that you can also do homework on it is of no interest to them, and that's really all a Chromebook can do. And if their school uses anything other than Google for a learning environment then it's probably useless. But other posters are right - decent gaming PCs are generally expensive. Your cheapest option is probably to either get a cheap desktop that can be upgraded (many High Street ones can't) or help him build his own entry level model and then upgrade it bit by bit as he has money. It's not as difficult as you might think and will teach him a lot about computers. A really good web site is uk.pcpartpicker.com/. It has a library of enthusiasts' PC builds. In fact, when I copied this link just now their home page shows an entry level gaming PC for £550.

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