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Ds has requested a very expensive present when I've completely finished my shopping - what to do?

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lurchersrule · 22/11/2020 15:35

He's 13 and our rule has always been 'you don't get everything on your list', but as ds's have always been tiny lists. he always does get everything! This year he asked for a detailed map of the British Isles and book about law, so I obviously bought them. I also got him a Chromebook as we have my work laptop and his phone and during lockdown he had to use an old, cheap laptop we had forgotten about - it only cost £120 new and is pretty shit. After lockdown Ds carried on using it for researching his interests and doing things like making election prediction maps, or whatever he's into at one time, so I thought he'd like an upgrade to a proper Chromebook. I didn't get the cheapest and got one for about £400 on Prime day. This is probably roughly the same or a bit more than what I usually spend on each child, so I planned to just get him sweets and not a lot else.

Then he came home today from his dad's and sat down looking pensive and said could he ask for another present. Turns out he wants a gaming PC! He's jut realised his friends have them and are playing a game together that's not on Xbox (we have one). I know Chromebooks are no good for this. I couldn't have predicted it - he's never mentioned it before and, while he goes through phases of liking Xbox, it's never been an obsession and he didn't even buy the new Fifa this year, which he normally does.

What do I do? I hate to not get him the one thing he really wants, especially as this is the only time in his life he's ever asked for anything expensive. His birthday was shit this year as it was late March and most of his presents and his party were experience based and had to be cancelled, but he didn't complain or anything.

PArt of the problem is that DS2 hasn't asked for anything big this year either, but has a long list of small-medium, items that I will/have got several items of. He sees glitter speakers as being a 'main' gift, but in terms of cost they're no comparison to what this PC will cost. But ds2 already has a gaming PC as ex got him one. I had threads about it - he tried to make ds2 pay out his entire savings because he wanted him to have it at his house to avoid ds going on his (ex's) iPad all the time. I stood my ground and ex paid for the PC in full, which was good but meant he essentially got a much bigger present than ds1 last year from ex, who normally only spends about £20 each on them max. (got it late January but ex got him nothing for Christmas as it was 'coming') so maybe this evens it out with him having lower-key gifts this Christmas.

Also, what do I do about the Chrome? Bit gutted about that as I was excited about giving it to him. If I spend a further £500-600 on a PC that would mean I'd have spent £1k on ds1 which is unheard of, and about £200 on ds2, which is too big a gap. Even assuming I don't give ds1 the Chrome the money is still spent, and I want him to have it as in some ways it'll be more useful than the PC because of them having to move between houses.

I thought of asking ds2 to contribute to the PC from his savings. He has enough to buy the whole thing, which I wouldn't want, but if he paid about £200 and I got the rest, maybe I could then give him the Chrome (and nothing else) for his birthday? And that wouldn't be too unfair? Or present the Chrome as a shared gift? But that's a bit shit really as neither of them really wants it and neither would use it if they both had PCs/their phones. Also, I'm worried about the unfairness as both kids know I refused to let ds2 go into his savings for his PC so it will look bad if I make ds1 go into his? But that happened because ex was being a dick and ds2 does tend to piss his money away while ds1 rarely spends.

I can afford it by dipping into savings and perhaps using a credit card - never normally do that for Christmas but I have a fairly sizable inheritance currently in probate which means I could justify it this year.

Sorry, I know it's long and boring but his request has knocked me so any advice would be great!

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quizqueen · 22/11/2020 17:50

If you are expecting an inheritance, can you not just say you will allow your children to ask for one thing, for a given amount, from that money, as a remembrance from their grandparent or wherever the money is coming from. No reason why they shouldn't have to wait for something special they really want and they may appreciate it more when it arrives.

GabsAlot · 22/11/2020 17:50

why do people keep saying just exhange one for the other

theyre not the same price the op ha said she will have to use savings or a credit card to get it-

you cant afford it op just say no

GabsAlot · 22/11/2020 17:52

aside from the inheritance but kids need to learn they cant just ask for something an automatially get it

WhereverIGoddamnLike · 22/11/2020 17:53

@GabsAlot

No, she said she will need to use savings or credit in order to get the PC whilst also keeping the laptop. Return the laptop and then she has the money there, and the extra wont be as much. That's if she is willing to spend that amount, which is totally up to her.

Badger342 · 22/11/2020 17:56

My husband has built a relative a gaming PC for Christmas. It’s the minimum he needs for what he wants but very upgradeable. It cost a lot less than 500 in parts. Maybe 300 max? Although I’m told we could sell it for 500+. If you know someone who could build it, would that be an option to cut costs? A monitor isn’t urgent if he already has a tv, although it’ll look better in terms of graphics I f he saves up himself to get a good monitor. Keyboard and mouse can be bought cheap, and again he can maybe save up for better ones if he needs them. He’ll get a lot more use out of something like this than a Chrome book, as it’ll be good for his school stuff too and will last a lot longer.

Grenlei · 22/11/2020 17:56

Is return the Chromebook the new cancel the cheque?!

Honestly Chromebooks even as a basic laptop are not very good, he will get loads more out of having the PC. And he still has the old laptop if ever he needs something more portable.

AaronPurr · 22/11/2020 17:59

@GabsAlot

aside from the inheritance but kids need to learn they cant just ask for something an automatially get it
Ops son doesn't seem like a grabby child who expects everything he asks for.

Most of his birthday was cancelled, he didn't complain

His brother got a much larger and more expensive present off his dad last year, again he doesn't seem to have complained

He's only asked for 2 small gifts for Christmas, and usually has a small list each year.

He has enough savings to buy it outright.

As i've already said OP definitely return the Chrome book. But I would also have a chat with your son about it being more than you would usually spend, and see if he would be happy to contribute towards it.

Krampusasbabysitter · 22/11/2020 18:00

Even the current gifts are a ridiculous high amount for Christmas presents, as is several presents.

user1493494961 · 22/11/2020 18:06

My DH has a Chromebook, he thinks it's crap.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 22/11/2020 18:20

Your DS sounds lovely and like a very unspoiled child.

I would get him the gaming PC and spend as much as I could afford for the spec. He will be likely to use it loads, not just for gaming. But I would make it clear that it is for Christmas and his next birthday. I would talk to him before purchase and he can then have the option to contribute in order to get a better monitor, for example.

SonjaMorgan · 22/11/2020 18:22

Keep the chromebook as a family computer and get him the pc.

amusedbush · 22/11/2020 18:22

I bought a Chromebook for uni work and it was so shit I took it back. It was only £190, which is what attracted me but that should have told me all I needed to know. They're all app-based so you can't install the full version of Microsoft Office and I couldn't use video chat on mine, which would have been absolutely useless had I kept it during lockdown. They are basically for surfing the internet and that's all.

He didn't ask for it and I wouldn't give a Chromebook as a gift simply because they're not very good.

S111n20 · 22/11/2020 18:27

If you can afford it get him to gaming pc and give the chromebook to him for his birthday.

Comefromaway · 22/11/2020 18:29

Return the chrome book definite,y.

However you can ask your son to contribute from his savings. My Ds wants a MacBook Pro. He’s been using dh’s 3rd hand man mini and because he’s studying music tech at college it doesn’t do what he needs. So we are giving him some towards it, his grandparents are then he’s contributing some from his savings.

Chaotic45 · 22/11/2020 18:36

I'm your position I'd return the chrome book and buy a gaming PC.

I'd see if DS' dad will contribute, plus maybe some other relatives. When we bought DS a gaming PC we were lucky in that other relatives gave towards it and some bought the monitor, keyboard, mouse etc.....

DS can use the gaming PC to do homework.

Lockdown has somewhat changed how I see gaming online with friends. DS has had a lot of fun and social contact with friends through playing games. They have played all sorts- war strategy, fantasy, minecraft, surgeon simulator, rollercoaster construction, ghost hunting. The laughter, chat, negotiations and compromise has been a joy to hear. He would not have had this contact without the PC. At 13 there's only so much time he wants to spend doing stuff with DH and I.

Also we have found that the games for gaming PCs are an awful lot cheaper than Xbox games, and DS has mostly bought them with his own money.

GabsAlot · 22/11/2020 18:44

yes and im saying chormebooks arent the same price doesnt matter if she sends it back

lurchersrule · 22/11/2020 18:48

Funny how this thread has brought out all the 'Chromebooks are crap' people! I've been on so many other threads where they've been highly recommended.

I really want to stress how ds isn't a grabby child. When he mentioned it today I said something along the lines of 'We'll see,' and he dropped it and is fine. I'm starting to think I might keep the Chromebook and give it as a joint gift, perhaps when the inheritance comes in. Much as it's not exciting as such, it would be useful for both to have a computer of sorts for when they're at their dad's, for homework or watching films as there's only one tv there.

If I do put it on credit card it'll be interest free for 3 months as long as I pay it off in that time, which I would, so that doesn't concern me. I also might get ds to contribute a bit as it is a lot of money, even without the Chromebook.

There's no way I'm trying to build one with him - that would be a stressy disaster!

I did think of letting him buy it with a share of the inheritance money, but that would mean ds2 would need to buy something and he would spend for the sake of it if he saw his brother buying something. Instead I'll tell them they've got some money from their great aunt to go into savings.

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yossell · 22/11/2020 18:48

The phrase 'a gaming pc' often means a hi spec pc designed for gamers. Gamers usually want to play the most recent games at the highest specs, and so usually want cutting edge components in their pc.

In this sense, although your son wants a pc to play a game on, I don't think it's quite right to say he wants a gaming pc. EU4 is quite an old game and, by modern standards, not all that demanding. For that reason, I think you should be able to find a pc in your price bracket which will suit him.

I think the £400 chromebook is a mistake for him -- though I appreciate and understand why you bought it for him. I have a chrome book and love it, but I don't really see the point of high-end chromebooks. Their beauty (for me) is in the fact that you can do all your work on low-end components.

I would recommend first checking exactly what games your son wants to play on the pc. If it's just strategy games, like EU4, then there's no need for a really high end pc. Second, I would then suggest looking at the refurbished pc market. There are some very decent machines going for amazingly cheap prices which have only been used in a business context, and are in very good condition.

But if you go this route, then you do need to do some research -- check the specs of the refurbished machine, check whether the processor is good, whether it has a reasonable graphics card capable of running the relevant game. That can involve some research and plenty of googling, but there are a lot of good comparison charts on the web and the information is accessible.

This is daunting if you nothing about pcs, but if your son or any of his friends know about them, see if you can use their expertise. I believe you could then pick up a decent pc capable of doing what your son wants for under £500.

Changedmynameagain1 · 22/11/2020 18:52

@lurchersrule I would imagine he would use Steam to play, although it is large, around 75gb it would still work on chrome book and you could get a controller for it?

Not a gaming PC but a good compromise.

Yoh could also get a HDMI cable to connect it too a large screen

Namechange8471 · 22/11/2020 18:55

Gaming pcs are bloody expensive, you'll struggle to get a decent one for less than £700. We paid £400 just for a graphics card.

Just say sorry son, not this year, maybe next.

SleepingStandingUp · 22/11/2020 18:57

His birthday is late march, he has to wait 3 months. If you can't really afford it for his birthday, suggest cash for other presents is he can pay towards it.

pinkbalconyrailing · 22/11/2020 18:59

chrome book to younger dc?
and get the gaming pc

lurchersrule · 22/11/2020 19:02

Oh- also meant to say that not many other people buy the dc presents, My parents give about £30 cash each, as did my aunt who has died. Ex spends about £20 nd they get books or £20 max from his parents. Not complaining at any of that at all, but just explaining that he won't get a pile of other stuff or massive amounts of cash either - not that he needs it!

No way could I give him the Chrome and not the PC. It's the 'nearly but not quite' gifts that are the worst imo, and he's old enough to think 'Why didn't she just wait and get me the pc for my bithday/next year' not that he would say it!

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sophandbridge · 22/11/2020 19:06

If you are buying a gaming PC then can you make sure you get one that is as good as the one his sibling has?

AaronPurr · 22/11/2020 19:10

Ex spends about £20

So last year his brother recieved a gift worth £500 from his dad, where as DS1 got a £20 gift?