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Ds has requested a very expensive present when I've completely finished my shopping - what to do?

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lurchersrule · 22/11/2020 15:35

He's 13 and our rule has always been 'you don't get everything on your list', but as ds's have always been tiny lists. he always does get everything! This year he asked for a detailed map of the British Isles and book about law, so I obviously bought them. I also got him a Chromebook as we have my work laptop and his phone and during lockdown he had to use an old, cheap laptop we had forgotten about - it only cost £120 new and is pretty shit. After lockdown Ds carried on using it for researching his interests and doing things like making election prediction maps, or whatever he's into at one time, so I thought he'd like an upgrade to a proper Chromebook. I didn't get the cheapest and got one for about £400 on Prime day. This is probably roughly the same or a bit more than what I usually spend on each child, so I planned to just get him sweets and not a lot else.

Then he came home today from his dad's and sat down looking pensive and said could he ask for another present. Turns out he wants a gaming PC! He's jut realised his friends have them and are playing a game together that's not on Xbox (we have one). I know Chromebooks are no good for this. I couldn't have predicted it - he's never mentioned it before and, while he goes through phases of liking Xbox, it's never been an obsession and he didn't even buy the new Fifa this year, which he normally does.

What do I do? I hate to not get him the one thing he really wants, especially as this is the only time in his life he's ever asked for anything expensive. His birthday was shit this year as it was late March and most of his presents and his party were experience based and had to be cancelled, but he didn't complain or anything.

PArt of the problem is that DS2 hasn't asked for anything big this year either, but has a long list of small-medium, items that I will/have got several items of. He sees glitter speakers as being a 'main' gift, but in terms of cost they're no comparison to what this PC will cost. But ds2 already has a gaming PC as ex got him one. I had threads about it - he tried to make ds2 pay out his entire savings because he wanted him to have it at his house to avoid ds going on his (ex's) iPad all the time. I stood my ground and ex paid for the PC in full, which was good but meant he essentially got a much bigger present than ds1 last year from ex, who normally only spends about £20 each on them max. (got it late January but ex got him nothing for Christmas as it was 'coming') so maybe this evens it out with him having lower-key gifts this Christmas.

Also, what do I do about the Chrome? Bit gutted about that as I was excited about giving it to him. If I spend a further £500-600 on a PC that would mean I'd have spent £1k on ds1 which is unheard of, and about £200 on ds2, which is too big a gap. Even assuming I don't give ds1 the Chrome the money is still spent, and I want him to have it as in some ways it'll be more useful than the PC because of them having to move between houses.

I thought of asking ds2 to contribute to the PC from his savings. He has enough to buy the whole thing, which I wouldn't want, but if he paid about £200 and I got the rest, maybe I could then give him the Chrome (and nothing else) for his birthday? And that wouldn't be too unfair? Or present the Chrome as a shared gift? But that's a bit shit really as neither of them really wants it and neither would use it if they both had PCs/their phones. Also, I'm worried about the unfairness as both kids know I refused to let ds2 go into his savings for his PC so it will look bad if I make ds1 go into his? But that happened because ex was being a dick and ds2 does tend to piss his money away while ds1 rarely spends.

I can afford it by dipping into savings and perhaps using a credit card - never normally do that for Christmas but I have a fairly sizable inheritance currently in probate which means I could justify it this year.

Sorry, I know it's long and boring but his request has knocked me so any advice would be great!

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ancientgran · 22/11/2020 19:15

If it was me and I could afford it I'd get him the PC and save the Chromebook for his birthday or as a joint present from great aunt's legacy.

DryRoastPeanut · 22/11/2020 19:16

can you afford it ... then get it...
if you can't then don't

Says it all.....you don’t need my permission to go Xmas shopping!

DinosaurOfFire · 22/11/2020 19:20

Definitely get the gaming pc and return the chrome book. You could even get a gaming laptop for around £600, then its portable too. But they already have the old laptop that can go between houses for school work and desktop gaming pcs are so much better than the laptops. I see that other posters have covered the 'chromebooks are crap' element. You should be able to get a decent gaming pc from somewhere like overclockers or ebuyer for the £600 mark, he won't need a top range one unless he properly gets into pc gaming. And a gaming pc will be suitable for school work too- the main difference between a 'normal' pc and a gaming one is the graphics card and processor. There is a good subreddit called r/pcmasterrace which has lots of posts on different pcs and how to choose based on needs vs wants.

spidermomma · 22/11/2020 19:22

My DSS asked for a gaming pc at the same age.
Glad I didn't buy one because after Xmas all his mates had consoles and the pc was forgotten about !
Otherwise if you know he won't let it go then return the chrome or sell it an get the gaming pc ! Xx

TechnoDino · 22/11/2020 19:23

If it was me I would insist that his brother shares his PC to let your sone play this one game. Seems ridiculous to spend £500+ when you already have a gaming PC in the house!
Or I would return the chromebook and buy a gaming PC, but tell him it’s fir christmas AND his birthday next year. He’s old enough to understand and accept that.
Your ex sounds like a complete arse, unless he intended the PC last year to be shared between the two brothers?

SunshineCake · 22/11/2020 19:31

In my house it would be laptops for school work don't come as Christmas or birthday presents but a gaming PC would be a present.

Your son sounds lovely. Your ex not at all.

Icebear99 · 22/11/2020 19:33

Return the chromebook and either buy the gaming pc or buy the bits and get him to build it himself? If it's what he wants then it's definitely going to outlast a chrome book which will be a win! Have a look at ccl they do parts and pre built for a reasonable price. And there a loads of videos of how to build one, including one by Henry Cavill (superman) 😉

Wandafishcake · 22/11/2020 19:41

I’d get him an equivalent PC to what his brother has, and keep the Chrome book yourself as just a household item that can be used by whoever needs it.

Grenlei · 22/11/2020 19:41

I really would ditch the Chromebook. If you want them to have a laptop, there are plenty of others at the 400 or under mark which will do a better job than a Chromebook.

Honestly though if you can get him a PC, do. My DS's gaming PC is like Triggers broom; he first got it 6 or 7 years ago and since then has replaced most of the parts with upgraded versions one by one. He's learned how to build a PC at the same time which is useful, and was then able to set his brothers up for him rather than needing to buy one ready made.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 22/11/2020 19:49

A gaming PC can do everything a chromebook can do, I would return it and get the PC of possible.

Thewinterofdiscontent · 22/11/2020 19:52

My DS built his own at 13 and I know nothing about PC’s. ebuyer where he bought the components from, tells you what bits are compatible and it certainly didn’t cost £600. Best bit us they can just keep upgrading sections without needing new everything.

You could get him a few cheaper bits to build his own and come his birthday he can update the graphic card as a new hobby?

mamange · 22/11/2020 20:03

Return the chrome and give him the budget towards a gaming pc (they are a ton of money).

I was going to say I think you need to ensure you are spending the same on both kids but having re read your post I think the boys have different dads and one dad buys extravagant gifts and the other is more frugal. That does make it more complex. I would maybe speak to your other son and let him know you are getting his brother an extravagant gift this year as he already has a gaming pc and the brothers dad doesn’t spend much

Defo return the chrome though. It’s sad as it was a real bargain but what he wants is a gaming pc

AaronPurr · 22/11/2020 20:10

I was going to say I think you need to ensure you are spending the same on both kids but having re read your post I think the boys have different dads and one dad buys extravagant gifts and the other is more frugal.

They actually have the same dad, OP clarified that above. Which makes the difference in gifts last year even more shocking.

timeforanewstart · 22/11/2020 20:12

Can you return the chrome and get gaming pc ? I bought ds2 one for his birthday ( well contributed he had saved some ) he uses it for gaming and homework
But the pc tower was £400 ish then need keyboard , mouse and monitor unless you have those
Some gaming pcs are closer to a £1000 though but ds found one on ebay on a site his mate used and he knew spec he wanted or could afford that would be suitable so was around £400 . He used tv as a monitor until he saved more

combatbarbie · 22/11/2020 20:14

Why can't dad get it?

SweetPetrichor · 22/11/2020 20:15

A good gaming pc is expensive. I have an HP Envy which is by no means a hardcore gamer pc and it cost me £2k. It plays what I want it to, as a casual gamer but it wouldn’t go it for serious playing. Many of these strategy war/political/world building games are surprisingly taxing for a pc to run cause there’s lots of moving things. The older ones less so but if he wants to play the more recent releases they get deceptively high spec.

timeforanewstart · 22/11/2020 20:20

To add my son pc does all he needs for now he uses steam and plays various games and for £450 it seems to do the job, he's 15 and seems to do him fine.
Im sure he will want a better one but belive he can upgrade parts but like all tech they always date within a few years

SweetPetrichor · 22/11/2020 20:26

Although, having asked my DP, apparently EU4 isn’t so taxing so you probably could get something much cheaper that would run that. It just depends what else he’d want to play. My DP plays a lot of Civilisation, which isn’t too taxing on the pc, but he also plays Total War which has lots of wee men running around as you take moves and is therefore quite taxing to run.

Wheresmykimchi · 22/11/2020 20:28

Take the chrome book back. He didn't ask for it and it's not a great present

Floralnomad · 22/11/2020 20:28

@AaronPurr

I was going to say I think you need to ensure you are spending the same on both kids but having re read your post I think the boys have different dads and one dad buys extravagant gifts and the other is more frugal.

They actually have the same dad, OP clarified that above. Which makes the difference in gifts last year even more shocking.

Absolutely no reason why anybody has to price match presents , if all the children are getting what they’ve asked for or would like .
Lweji · 22/11/2020 20:28

My son's gaming PC has a side door and lots of space. He can easily upgrade it.

Sickofbroccoli · 22/11/2020 20:32

Chromebooks aren’t necessarily crap but £400 for one, on offer, is a bit eye watering for what they are.

I’d return it, you’ve said neither DS would actually want it and then decide about giving money towards a PC/build or trying to find something. I don’t think EU4 necessarily needs a tip top high end gaming PC, so the £500-600 budget should be enough if it’s the game I’m thinking of but happy to be corrected!

sergeilavrov · 22/11/2020 20:35

I’d give the chromebook for Christmas, and say that due to lockdown, gaming PCs were sold out. Say you appreciate his patience, and that for his birthday he will get one. This will also spur him to submit requests earlier when possible. Then, as the inheritance comes to you (just don’t say anything) - buy him the gaming computer, which means his brother won’t feel like he ‘gets’ something too - and when his actual birthday comes around, just a small token gift.

That way, the chromebook isn’t a disappointment, he has time to back out if he wants, no sibling rivalry and he has the computer he needs in the meantime. Given your ex paid out heavily for your other son, it balances out (as 50-50 if that makes sense) morally too.

lurchersrule · 22/11/2020 20:38

Well, it's not very magical but I ended up talking to him about it and he very graciously said that while Chromebook was a good idea he definitely would like a PC and is happy for it to be joint Christmas/birthday present, and to contribute from his savings. I feel a bit shit about having spoken to him but from what people are saying on here I need to know exactly what he wants to do with it before deciding what to get. He' going to speak to his friends and find out what they use and has been doing some research as well.

Ds2 is relieved too - he knew about the Chromebook and told me he was 'shooketh', as he puts it, when ds1 mentioned asking me for a PC.

Yes, their dad is a knob. If anything he probably favours ds1 in terms of attention as they have a shared hobby which ds2 hates. He didn't set out to get ds2 a PC though - he tried to facilitate him spending his savings on it for his own convenience, but I prevented it. Bit of a car crash really but ended well and meant we had three computers in the house for lockdown, which proved invaluable.

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SeaToSki · 22/11/2020 20:40

I got my DS to weigh in and he said the chromebook really wont run EU4 unless he does something through Linux (which I didnt understand) and it will still run fairly slow. He did tell me to give you this link

www.pcgamebenchmark.com/europa-universalis-iv-system-requirements

As it will guide you on what a pc needs to run EU4 at a minimum and for some good speed. So if you do buy him a pc, make sure it has enough oomph to run the game