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Ds has requested a very expensive present when I've completely finished my shopping - what to do?

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lurchersrule · 22/11/2020 15:35

He's 13 and our rule has always been 'you don't get everything on your list', but as ds's have always been tiny lists. he always does get everything! This year he asked for a detailed map of the British Isles and book about law, so I obviously bought them. I also got him a Chromebook as we have my work laptop and his phone and during lockdown he had to use an old, cheap laptop we had forgotten about - it only cost £120 new and is pretty shit. After lockdown Ds carried on using it for researching his interests and doing things like making election prediction maps, or whatever he's into at one time, so I thought he'd like an upgrade to a proper Chromebook. I didn't get the cheapest and got one for about £400 on Prime day. This is probably roughly the same or a bit more than what I usually spend on each child, so I planned to just get him sweets and not a lot else.

Then he came home today from his dad's and sat down looking pensive and said could he ask for another present. Turns out he wants a gaming PC! He's jut realised his friends have them and are playing a game together that's not on Xbox (we have one). I know Chromebooks are no good for this. I couldn't have predicted it - he's never mentioned it before and, while he goes through phases of liking Xbox, it's never been an obsession and he didn't even buy the new Fifa this year, which he normally does.

What do I do? I hate to not get him the one thing he really wants, especially as this is the only time in his life he's ever asked for anything expensive. His birthday was shit this year as it was late March and most of his presents and his party were experience based and had to be cancelled, but he didn't complain or anything.

PArt of the problem is that DS2 hasn't asked for anything big this year either, but has a long list of small-medium, items that I will/have got several items of. He sees glitter speakers as being a 'main' gift, but in terms of cost they're no comparison to what this PC will cost. But ds2 already has a gaming PC as ex got him one. I had threads about it - he tried to make ds2 pay out his entire savings because he wanted him to have it at his house to avoid ds going on his (ex's) iPad all the time. I stood my ground and ex paid for the PC in full, which was good but meant he essentially got a much bigger present than ds1 last year from ex, who normally only spends about £20 each on them max. (got it late January but ex got him nothing for Christmas as it was 'coming') so maybe this evens it out with him having lower-key gifts this Christmas.

Also, what do I do about the Chrome? Bit gutted about that as I was excited about giving it to him. If I spend a further £500-600 on a PC that would mean I'd have spent £1k on ds1 which is unheard of, and about £200 on ds2, which is too big a gap. Even assuming I don't give ds1 the Chrome the money is still spent, and I want him to have it as in some ways it'll be more useful than the PC because of them having to move between houses.

I thought of asking ds2 to contribute to the PC from his savings. He has enough to buy the whole thing, which I wouldn't want, but if he paid about £200 and I got the rest, maybe I could then give him the Chrome (and nothing else) for his birthday? And that wouldn't be too unfair? Or present the Chrome as a shared gift? But that's a bit shit really as neither of them really wants it and neither would use it if they both had PCs/their phones. Also, I'm worried about the unfairness as both kids know I refused to let ds2 go into his savings for his PC so it will look bad if I make ds1 go into his? But that happened because ex was being a dick and ds2 does tend to piss his money away while ds1 rarely spends.

I can afford it by dipping into savings and perhaps using a credit card - never normally do that for Christmas but I have a fairly sizable inheritance currently in probate which means I could justify it this year.

Sorry, I know it's long and boring but his request has knocked me so any advice would be great!

OP posts:
123becauseicouldntthinkofone · 23/11/2020 14:41

Does he have any idea how much a decent gaming PC is? they are far more expensive than any console a cheap one would be around £650 a medium up to £1k.

Unfortunately at the minute i would say it is out of the question not just due to price. On a side note my DS used to do this and i bought out of guilt so he learnt he gets double until i cottoned on ha ha sneaky little sod :)

canigooutyet · 23/11/2020 15:31

@DumplingsAndStew no problem. As I was reading through noticed a few people ask, but seemed to be ignored by people saying oh no, have you seen the price? Grin

There are also loads of videos on youtube that show you and explain how to avoid damage through static electric.

Precision tools needed you can buy together as a kit, mine also does phones and tablets. You can probably pick these up for £70+ but I found the £15 kits just as good. Grin

Our first started out as a bog standard tower, and as things started to need replacing, we started to upgrade.

canigooutyet · 23/11/2020 15:32

Generally speaking, it is cheaper to build a gaming PC rather than buying a pre-built gaming PC. This is because you are not paying extra for the cost of assembly and profit margin associated with Prebuilt PCs. In most cases, the more expensive a prebuilt PC is, the more the cost of assembly and profit margin of the seller will be. Therefore, it is indeed cheaper to build a PC. However, you forfeit the time and less risk of damaging the PC components if you decide to build a PC from scratch rather than buy a Prebuilt version.

www.techsiting.com/build-or-buy-a-gaming-pc/

Berthatydfil · 23/11/2020 15:54

My ds built a gaming pc a couple of years ago he was a couple of years older than your ds though. He did loads of research and watched a lot of you tube and bought the components individually and assembled it himself - he did need a couple of tools and a wrist strap to ground himself.
It also meant that he could buy the components he wanted and not bother with stuff he didn’t need.
It was probably over £1000 worth once built and probably cost around £400 in components. He saved pocket money and used previous birthday/Christmas money and had some as present money.
Could you get him some info on pc building and maybe sign him up for a course with a view to this being a longer term project.

canigooutyet · 23/11/2020 16:07

www.pcgamer.com/uk/news/

Another place to go for building your own advice and more

ZoeTurtle · 23/11/2020 16:19

Well, it's not very magical but I ended up talking to him about it and he very graciously said that while Chromebook was a good idea he definitely would like a PC and is happy for it to be joint Christmas/birthday present, and to contribute from his savings.

Do you have a figure in mind and do you know what games he wants to play besides EU4? I spent bloody ages researching gaming PCs earlier in the year, and I'm sure I (and others) can help you narrow it down.

lurchersrule · 23/11/2020 16:58

So ds has just come home and thrown the curve ball that his friend has recommended a gaming laptop (the one linked to below). Apparently, his older brother has it and he (ds's friend) has asked for it for Christmas! Going by all the comments on here it seems too cheap to me, but I've done some research and found that in principle a gaming laptop would be okay as ds isn't a pro-gamer and not likely to be one, and it being portable would be great for him going between two houses.

Aside from EU4 he says he's like to go on Fifa, other EU4 type stuff that's as yet undiscovered, and Minecraft.

www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-laptops/acer-nitro-5-15-6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-gtx-1650-256-gb-ssd-10205931-pdt.html

It seems too cheap but I've tried to look up the minimum requirements for Fifa but I really can't make sense of it!

OP posts:
Meowchickameowmeow · 23/11/2020 17:05

@Noti23

I wish I had these problems...
What's that even supposed to mean?
TatianaBis · 23/11/2020 17:18
  1. Acers rank fairly low on reliability surveys.
  2. Laptops are never as fast and powerful as desktop PCs.
  3. It’s easier to replace and upgrade components in desktops than on laptops.
  4. That laptop does not have much memory. 250GB SSD may not be sufficient for storing school work + photos + music + downloaded films.
  5. An Intel Core i5-8300H or i5-9300H is a better processor than AMD Ryzen 5 3550H.

On the plus side a laptop is more practical for child living between 2 houses.

alwaysthepessimist · 23/11/2020 17:31

Return the chromebook, we bought one for DD last year and they really are quite crap, she's asked for a laptop she can play games on this year with her friends

LilyLongJohn · 23/11/2020 17:37

Return the chrome book or return it and exchange for a gaming pc.

Look into some of the secondhand shops like cex for a gaming pc

You could buy the gaming thing as a family pressy for both dc

mrsdaz · 23/11/2020 17:39

My first son always asked for a gaming PC but the spec he'd want it would have been nearing £1500. Hence he never got one. To be fair he had his Xbox and was more than happy with just that and probably wouldn't have got much use out of the gaming pc.

My second ds has now asked for one but again won't get one. He had a chrome book last year and uses it for watching YouTube as well as homework although he mostly uses his phone if it's just research rather than PowerPoint etc. We did get him a light up keyboard and mouse which he uses with his Xbox and thinks it's a gaming pc lol

ElvinBoys · 23/11/2020 17:39

Tbh with you I never buy my kids the same and they never complain as they both know they get what they need and some of what they want. I also don’t always spend the same each birthday/Christmas as again it’s about what they want/need and not just spending because I have to spend a certain amount.
Did you say his birthday is in March? If so how about getting him the gaming PC and keep the chrome for his birthday or tell him he can get a gaming pc for his birthday if he still really wants one by then.

cologne4711 · 23/11/2020 17:43

That laptop looks very decent for a 13 year old! I'd go with it OP.

Acer aren't crap, despite what a pp has said.

HTH1 · 23/11/2020 17:47

Return it and get a gaming laptop from Amazon (should be a lot less than £1k).

josbd · 23/11/2020 17:59

I would suggest you wait til Jan before you buy the PC for obvious reasons. They are expensive, but you will get a good deal in the Jan sales.

Rachbrown16 · 23/11/2020 18:00

Depending on the game (s) in theory the chrome book will cope, but I guess if he is likely to become a frequent gamer then a gaming pc is sensible... But the additional problem, even a gaming pc at £800 will be potato quality, which is double the cost of the chrome book. I guess compare the game to the specs of the chrome book and decide whether he should make do or save for a really good gaming pc

WaltzForDebbie · 23/11/2020 18:06

I was recommended to get one at least 500GB by a techie friend.

Celestine70 · 23/11/2020 18:10

Send the chrome back.

Middersweekly · 23/11/2020 18:10

We had to get a chrome book for DD’s school as they do all their work on it. That set us back the best part of €700 so you did well to get one for that price! Can he not get a gaming computer for his birthday? We generally don’t spend big amounts at Xmas but will get the DC something more substantial for their birthdays. Obviously it’s up to you and whether or not you can afford it all in one go. The other option is to keep the chrome book for his birthday and get him the gaming PC for Xmas or sell the chrome book?

Superleo837 · 23/11/2020 18:10

I’d stick to the chrome as it’s more useful and say maybe for your birthday.

FelicisNox · 23/11/2020 18:20

Stop. Just stop right there

No one is spending 1k on gifts and no one is digging into savings: either take the Chrome book back and swap it for the gaming PC or simply explain you can't afford it as you've already done the Christmas shopping but will seriously consider it for his birthday.

Failing that, his dad can buy it.

Don't get into the habit of overspending to people please no matter who it is. Apart from anything else his lists will only get more expensive as he gets older so he needs to understand now that sometimes the answer is no.

exaltedwombat · 23/11/2020 18:22

Return the Chromebook. It's not a 'proper computer' anyway, more a glorified tablet. It'll do basic office stuff and go online, but the 'old' laptop could do that.

There's nothing worse than being given the 'wrong' bit of expensive technology.

LovelyIssues · 23/11/2020 18:27

Wait for his birthday Confused no brainer

CauliflowerBalti · 23/11/2020 18:34

I asked my DH (works in IT, many gamer friends) and he said that the ACER laptop you linked to is a decent entry level laptop. It's not as good as a desktop, but he'd never wildly overspec/overspend on a 'first' gaming PC. As he pointed out, if your son was that into it, he'd have already started building his own.

He did say this could be the start of an expensive habit though...

And I'd swap for the Chromebook. My son is like yours. He hardly ever asks for anything big - this year aside, he normally requests things like a basketball or a £25 game he's seen or whatever. I've never been presented with a list, he doesn't pore over the Argos book like we used to as kids (accepting that's because it doesn't exist...).

This year, he asked for a PS5 and we were happy to oblige as it feels great to be able to deliver that 'JUST what I always wanted!' feeling. I don't think it makes kids like ours - that aren't very wanty - spoiled. If you can afford it, do it.