To want to escape the U.K

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I’ve become so disillusioned with his government, it’s corrupt and awful nasty politicians such as Priti Patel and cannot stomach to even see Boris Johnson on the television or the sound of his empty waffling forever gaslighting.

I’m seriously feeling depressed at what we have as a gov’t.

Wouldn’t it be lovely to have a sensible morally correct leadership of intelligent people you could actually trust to lead a nation.

Feeling really down about it.

I work in a very multi cultural place. Literally people from all over the world, every type of culture and they all enjoy living here and have no plans to leave. Many would say it is a fairer society than there own and their children have a better education and more life chances. Many are working towards British citizenship or have already got it.
U.K. is overall a great country to live in ( there are other great countries too) and we often don’t appreciate what we have. Our Gov “corruption” pales into insignificance compared to some of the countries my colleagues come from ( not all)

Yanbu op we're off in January. Don't think we'll be back tbh.

@Clavinova

Best countries for standard of living.

But the op wants to leave the UK because;

"I’ve become so disillusioned with his government, it’s corrupt and awful nasty politicians..."

Oh yes.

Let’s grumble about Spain and Portugal when our own PM is backing his Cabinet Minister found by an independent inquiry to have breached the Ministerial code, you know - the Ministerial Code signed off by Johnson?

The same Cabinet Minister sacked by a UK PM for holding numerous unofficial meetings with a foreign power?

Yup, this is why I'm glad we live in Canada. Its not perfect but it's much better.

It's like saying 'so your husband's financially abusive, does fuck all around the house and treats your kids like shit? Well you should be glad he doesn't beat you!'

I think holding a government to the same standards you would hold a partner to wouldn't be a bad thing really.

No where is perfect.

I agree but where you gonna go that's better?

@QuizzlyBear I know how you feel. I'm disgusted by the corruption, entitlement and cronyism (and sheer incompetence!) of our government... Plus if they thought isolating us from the worlds biggest trading block and alienating our closest allies was a good plan then they can't be all that bright. I think that's what depresses me most.

^This. I don’t want to emigrate i’d just like this particular Government to stop being such inept, self-interested, shitweasels!

Would Priti be the target of all this bile had she been white, or a he?

Completely agree. DH is German by birth. I look on with envy - a country with morally credible leaders who can actually manage an economy and deal with Covid reasonably well.

I think the government is a shit show but I think that way about most countries to be honest. The vast majority of governments are only out for themselves.

Isle of Man....not a part of the UK (or EU). But currently 'closed to non-residents'. Quelle dommage !

@Moonmelodies

Would Priti be the target of all this bile had she been white, or a he?

Maybe Priti should have considered the requirements of the Ministerial Code when she accepted a Cabinet Minister position?

Yup, this is why I'm glad we live in Canada. Its not perfect but it's much better.

Maybe not;

September 2020;

"The charity at the centre of a political firestorm in Canada has announced it will shutter its operations in the country, the latest in a scandal that has placed prime Justin Trudeau at the centre of a parliamentary and ethics investigation."

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/10/we-charity-closes-canada-operations-after-scandal-linked-to-trudeau-family

I largely want to leave because of the weather.

prime [sic] minister Justin Trudeau

@Savourysenorita

UK has probably one of the fairest leadership systems in the world. We don't realise how lucky we are to live as we do (excluding the shitty lock downs )

I ve lived in Sweden, France and S.Africa, i would disagree, even SA felt more together than the uk.

Our first past the post voting system system means we have well over half the electorate whose views are ignored.

Pre Brexit vote 2016, i'd have said we are no better or worse than many eu countries but now we are like the USA, very divided with everyone having very entrenched views and a govt that is tearing up the norms.

The changes in the UK in the last 4 years have been huge and unsettling to at least half the population and we've shite weather.

@Moonmelodies

Yes, she would.

Barbados would be nice. One of my colleagues has spent the lockdown there and is making us all so jealous.

Would Priti be the target of all this bile had she been white, or a he?

Yup.

@Moonmelodies

Would Priti be the target of all this bile had she been white, or a he?

Yes. No workplace bully should get a pass. See also Dominic Cummings. Plenty of bile for his vile behaviour towards people he worked with too, not to forget the payouts that had to be made because of it.

Poland? Hungary?

"BRUSSELS, Nov 20 (Reuters) - The Belgian regions of Brussels and Wallonia closed their office of representation in Warsaw on Friday over what they say is the Polish government’s threat to judicial and media independence and anti-gay discrimination."

“For several years, the authoritarian excesses of the government in place have undermined the rule of law,” Walloon Premier Elio Di Rupo and his Walloon-Brussels counterpart, Pierre-Yves Jeholet, said in a joint statement."

“Attacking the independence of the judiciary, the separation of powers is endangering democracy and European integration, we cannot accept it,” they said."

"Poland, along with Hungary, is under EU investigation for undermining the rule of law and risks losing access to tens of billions of euros in EU funds."

www.reuters.com/article/poland-ruleoflaw-belgium-idUSL4N2I62XU

I'm in Australia and our handling of the pandemic has been somewhat questionable

We're in a good place for now, but think this could go tits up at any time. So those that live in glass houses and all that...

But anyone defending how the Tories have handled it in the UK are not the sort of people I'd want to know.

If you can't honestly look at it and see what a shitshow Boris has created time and time again, then you, quite frankly, deserve it.

And to those pp saying 'leave then' you do know most people can't just up and leave, certainly not now with Brexit and the pandemic.

My family is lucky we have Australian, British and EU passports so WE can (and did) leave because of Brexit and right now I'm so thankful.

"September 2018 - It’s Been 25 Years Since Anyone in Italy Trusted the Government."

foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/12/its-been-25-years-since-anyone-in-italy-trusted-the-government/

ReefTeeth

Australians do eat hormone-treated beef though - which we apparently don't want to eat in the UK.