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To have made DH apologise to DS?

342 replies

PleaseLetItBeNapTime · 19/11/2020 21:31

Sorry if this is a bit of a ramble...

I was in the kitchen making dinner. DS(4) has dinner at nursery and isn’t really hungry when he gets home so will just have fruit/ yoghurt/ crisps and be fine. DS decided that he wanted some wotsits. DS is particularly attached to the “rainbow” shaped ones and tends to leave them to the side and eat them last if he eats them at all. We’ve had tears before when he’s accidentally broken one. Rediculous I know, but he is only just 4 and he isn’t generally the sensitive type.

Anyway, DS is in the living room with DH and I hear him crying and he sounds inconsolable. I call him to the kitchen and he tells me “daddy’s eaten my rainbow”. DH follows and his attitude is so self righteous. I asked DH to apologise. He refused and said that DS’s reaction was disproportionate. I said he shouldn’t be eating DS’s crisps without asking. DH continues to refuse to say sorry, saying it’s not a big deal. I did tell DS that DH was being naughty at that point, which on reflection probably wasn’t appropriate. I told DH clearly it was a big deal for DS and he eventually says sorry and goes off in a huff. DS calms down, goes off to play, and is fine.

I asked DH to talk to me about the incident awhile later and he basically told me that he doesn’t believe I should have expected him to apologise to DS. He thinks I was out of line for labelling his behaviour as naughty and he was hurt that following the incident DS said he didn’t want to sit next to him.

I personally think the thought that he shouldn’t have to apologise is a form of toxic parenting - we need to mirror the behaviours we expect from DS and that includes admitting that we are wrong sometimes and apologising. DH has basically ignored me for the rest of the evening and still believes I’m wrong.

So WIBU? I’m genuinely interest to hear from people who think I was who can articulate why because I’m struggling to understand how DH is so firm in his position.

Thanks

OP posts:
SchadenfreudePersonified · 19/11/2020 22:46

@Crispyturtle

I’m totally with you, I think it’s really important that kids see adults can admit when they’ve behaved poorly or made a mistake and apologise. I don’t really understand why your DH was so reluctant to, it’s a weird hill to die on.
This!

It's also wrong for an adult to take/ eat something belonging to a child without permission.

Your DH wouldn't like it if anyone came over and snaffled something he'd been looking forward to eating - so he shouldn't do the same to your DS.

user1493494961 · 19/11/2020 22:47

You sound bloody hard work.

FunTimes2020 · 19/11/2020 22:49

@user1493494961

You sound bloody hard work.
Aren't you a delight? Hmm
olympicsrock · 19/11/2020 22:49

Get a grip! Don’t teach your child to be such a drama lama

ZombieAttack · 19/11/2020 22:49

Stealing your children’s food that they’ve specifically saved is a really shitty thing to do.

katy1213 · 19/11/2020 22:53

@crinkle77 Clearly you and I are shallow people who fail to grasp the psychological implications of being deprived of one's favourite Wotsit by the powerful father figure. This violence to the child's sense of self will undoubtedly give rise to PTSD and visits to the crisp aisle in adulthood will forever be a painful trigger for unhappy memories of childhood impotence in the face of Wotsit Theft.

Whydoiwearsomuchleopardprint · 19/11/2020 22:54

You have created a strange situation with you DC about crisps I feel, being attached to rainbow shaped ones is encouraging totally the wrong thing. I actually feel sorry for Dh, why not focus on having fun together?

ImMoana · 19/11/2020 22:56

Just saying.

To have made DH apologise to DS?
GabsAlot · 19/11/2020 22:58

he shouldnt be inconsolable about a crisp but dh should have just said sorry and moved on

Bloodypunkrockers · 19/11/2020 22:58

Jesus Christ

Incident
Naughty
"Making" your DH apologise

An I really reading this? A wotsit

A simple "aww Daddy's taken it. Here, we'll get another"

Anyone who orders me to apologise will be told where to go

essexmum777 · 19/11/2020 22:59

i think he (DH) was being an arse to a 4 year old.

PleaseLetItBeNapTime · 19/11/2020 23:01

@Whydoiwearsomuchleopardprint - There’s nothing weird. He’s 4. He’s literally had less than 6 bags of wotsits in his entire life. I’m sure he will move on and develop a new quirk at some point.

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Couchbettato · 19/11/2020 23:03

It's not "just a wotsit" though is it.

It's a big bloody man using his authority and power over a tiny little boy to get what he wants, and going the wrong way about it.

Not "Hi son, would you mind if I had a wotsit please?", It's just "I'm going to take what I want without question because I'm bigger and I don't have to answer to any one, not even mummy".

It's made that little boy feel completely unprotected and OP did right by her son.

When a kid cries like it's the worst thing that's ever happened to them, it probably is likely the worst thing that's ever happened to them so treat their responses appropriately, not dismissively.

I'm glad some of you lot aren't my parents.

TiggersLikeToBounce · 19/11/2020 23:05

Wow! Are some of these comments even from mum's?
Creating a weird relationship with crisps etc.
Nobody should make someone feel bad. Even worse a parent with their child. My ex used to take our child's favourite food off of their plate for shits and giggles...laughed in their face.

ChaBishkoot · 19/11/2020 23:05

One WOTSIT? This is over one wotsit?!
I mean it wasn’t deliberate was it? When one of us is eating popcorn or something someone else always dips in. Now if they are one precious popcorn and it became an ‘incident’ it would be ridiculous.
It’s also good to model to let small things go...

And if there was a ‘oh god my darling I am so sorry I ate your precious wotsit, forgive me’ situation it reiterates this rainbow wotsit thing and cheapens the value of a parental apology.

I apologise to my children when I have truly done something wrong. Not when I have inadvertently eaten a crisp.

PleaseLetItBeNapTime · 19/11/2020 23:06

@Couchbettato - perfectly put, it is about the power dynamic also

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ChaBishkoot · 19/11/2020 23:07

Even IF DH had said ‘can I have a wotsit?’ he may still have ended up eating the ‘wrong’ wotsit from DS’s point of view...
It’s not the permission thing. It’s the response to the loss of this ONE rainbow wotsit that’s the issue here.

ChaBishkoot · 19/11/2020 23:09

And if a child feels unprotected because their dad ate a single crisp then we have bigger problems...

1Morewineplease · 19/11/2020 23:09

Id be concerned that your child is in tears over a broken Wotsit .

Airyfairymarybeary · 19/11/2020 23:10

Your dog sounds like a stubborn child.

Beautiful3 · 19/11/2020 23:10

I would tell my children off if they ever snatched food off my plate without asking. So if my children know its rude to do that then I should pull up an adult doing the same, surely?! YANBU. Your husband should have apologized and left it at that.

5zeds · 19/11/2020 23:13

Would you really tell off an adult for taking one of your crisps?Shock

minipie · 19/11/2020 23:14

Why all these comments saying that the child should be resilient and get over it. And yet the adult man is entitled to be cross and is not expected to just get over it?

I’m with you OP, DH should have apologised. Not right to call him naughty in front of DC, but overall I think DH’s behaviour was way worse.

Does he have a problem with apologising in general?

MiniMum97 · 19/11/2020 23:14

@mygrandchildrenrock

Children need to learn resilience, I wouldn't be impressed if one adult called another adult 'naughty'!
Resilience isn't learning that people can just take your things and you have to lump it.

I am not one for namby pamby parenting but you don't just take other people's things, even if they are small things to you. Abs if you do accidentally, you apologise.

As the OP says it's mirroring good, polite and kind behaviour.

You don't make children resilient by taking their things and refusing to apologise simply because you are the adult.

Butchyrestingface · 19/11/2020 23:14

I have officially peak middle class-ed on Mumsnet tonight. Grin