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AIBU to have concerns about my husband's attitude to our children's safety?

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Kerals26 · 18/11/2020 11:27

Please can I ask whether you think I am being unreasonable to be worried about my husband’s stance/behaviour on these kid’s safety issues? When I’ve tried to raise these things with him I usually get told I’m being over-sensitive and very little, if anything, changes. Here goes:

  • Leaves dangerous things lying around – for example, antifreeze in a bottle without a lid on the other day (in a VIMTO bottle nonetheless, so very appealing to the kids). Other times – bottles of superglue, random car and or chemical stuff etc. When my eldest was a baby I asked him not to put a device with a button battery within reach in her room. He argued, put it out of reach and then moved it down a few days later without my knowledge. I then found her in said room with said item, with the button battery missing which resulted in an incredibly stressful 45 minutes on the phone to 111 and searching for the battery, worried that her insides could be being burnt by it, as per the BBC info-campaign I’d seen. I found the battery, but that wasn’t really the point.
  • Refuses to move his toiletries bag from within reach of the children – these contain his medication and scissors. On another occasion, our 20-month-old accessed his medication from his toiletries bag, after he pooh-pahed my concern about this. He then told me I was being paranoid about her holding his pills as she couldn’t get them out. I decided to let it run while watching her the whole time, to prove the risk to him – within minutes she had the pills out of their packaging and in her hand. He then had to come running through to get them away from her, as I was breastfeeding my youngest. Despite this incident, he still leaves his toiletries and medication in the same place, despite me clearing space for these items in an alternative place in the bathroom.
  • Leaves the children in the car alone – its hard to tell how long this is for and at what distance. I know he left both kids in the car when he was at a workshop recently. He told me he got my eldest out when she set the alarm off, and left the younger one sleeping. I think the car was in sight of the workshop. When they went of running errands recently my eldest also told me ‘Daddy left us in the car watching Peppa Pig’. I don’t know were they were or how long this was for but if it was for 2 minutes to pay for petrol while watching the car, I can’t see he’d have set Peppa Pig up.
  • Leaves fire starting materials in reach of the children – matches, firelighters, fire starting fluids (albeit with child proof tops), insecticide spray and poop-pahing me when I have said I want to move these out of reach.
  • Refused to get a fireguard when the kids were younger (and wont now, although there are older and more aware of fire safety).
  • Takes the kids to the park and leaves them in the enclosed area while he drives his monster truck adjacent to the park. The kids are 3 and 4 so I often end up ‘spotting’ or assisting them on equipment when I take them to the park. Him not being very nearby, to dive in if required, bothers me.
  • Installing locks on the children’s doors and locking them into their room to play, while he works in another room (‘supervising’ them on their babycam). I don’t like the ‘distance supervising’ or the psychological impact of them feeling ‘locked in’. They have told me they don’t like it.
  • Inadequate supervision when out – on several occasions my eldest has told me they got ‘lost’ or couldn’t find Daddy, when they were out. In the summer he had them all day at a public event and my eldest told me there were approached by a lady asking where their Mummy was. I feel they must have been out of his sight for a while on this occasion (he admitted to me they had ‘gone round the back of the tent’ at one point) as, as an adult, I tend to observe potentially lost children for a little while before approaching them , looking round for a parent who may be watching from a distance or frantically looking for them.

What do you think of these behaviours? AIBU to be really worried?

OP posts:
Motherissues2020 · 18/11/2020 11:35

I would be worried about all of those things and also be worried about your husbands reaction to your concern.

borageforager · 18/11/2020 11:35

Good grief. I opened your thread thinking that I would disagree with you, because I am quite risk averse, but anti freeze in a vimto bottle in their reach!

icedaisy · 18/11/2020 11:36

Yes that's horrendous op. The fire guard makes me feel unwell. Take your babies and go somewhere safeSad

SpillingTheTea · 18/11/2020 11:36

YANBU this is damn right neglectful.
I'm concerned he isn't concerned.

Spongebobsbob · 18/11/2020 11:36

Wtf? He’s deranged

BoyTree · 18/11/2020 11:37

That all sounds really worry, not least because it's all to facilitate him doing what he wants at the expense of basic safety precautions. But he won't acknowledge your concerns or accept that he needs change so I guess that leaves you doing all the child care yourself if you want them to be safe. I would remove locks from their doors though- we moved into a house with locks on the kids' doors and removed them on the first day because the idea was so miserable. Do you think you can get through to him?

flaviaritt · 18/11/2020 11:37

I would be incredibly worried, and actually if he didn’t take steps I would be reconsidering living together.

helloxhristmas · 18/11/2020 11:38

I wouldn't tolerate any of that and I'd go as far as to call it neglectful.

MedusasBadHairDay · 18/11/2020 11:40

That must just seemed to get worse and worse, he locks them in their rooms to keep them out of his way?? He sound awful, I wouldn't trust him to look after them at all.

ellesbellesxxx · 18/11/2020 11:40

I wouldn’t want my husband left alone with my children with any of these concerns, let alone all of them. Sorry op.

Cupoftchaiagain · 18/11/2020 11:42

Yup totally extreme attitude to their safety. I would call it neglectful. How is your relationship? And they are 3 and 4 years old?
I think you need to talk over this with someone you trust in real life and I would advise you not to leave him in sole care of them again. Particularly the park incident with the monster truck - can’t understand that.
Does he appear to love them? Care for them? Does he appear tuned into their needs - know when they are hungry/sleepy?

MyGazeboisLeaking · 18/11/2020 11:44

OP, this sounds awful.

Where are you when he locks them in their rooms? All of his behaviour sounds so, so worrying.

Motherissues2020 · 18/11/2020 11:44

Definitely Borage. I tend to be over anxious about some things, relaxed about others e.g. I like to cut up grapes and hold my daughters hand by a busy road but i let her run quite far ahead in the park and trust her to do her thing on the climbing frame. My husband has different things he's relaxed or anxious about, he thinks I'm being OTT about grapes but he likes her to be a bit closer in the park and hovers more in the playground. We compromise and can talk about it without dismissing each other.

But antifreeze in a vimto bottle. Leaving the children unattended at a park and locking them in their rooms. How can anyone think that's ok?

octoberfarm · 18/11/2020 11:46

I'm not usually one to call for LTB but both his reaction to you raising these concerns and the fact that all of this frankly neglectful behavior is to facilitate his own selfish wants/convenience would have me running for the hills. He's not willing to put the safety of two still very young children first, because it's a slight inconvenience to him. We're both really careful and our kids still get into everything, without someone willfully ignoring their safety. They're not safe with him, and that's all you need to know. Sorry you, and they, are dealing with this OP Thanks

LG101 · 18/11/2020 11:47

What???? I would be fuming you aren’t being unreasonable at all.

Locking a child in their room and supervision on a monitor is surely going to affect their mental health. Are they not worth daddies time and going to feel like an inconvenience?

Antifreeze / pills / scissors gives me nerves, I’m surprised you haven’t had more a&e trips to be honest.

If he doesn’t take it seriously I think you need to have a good think. My kids health would come first and if I thought my OH was endangering them I would potentially have to leave.

Bananalanacake · 18/11/2020 11:47

I don't understand why he moved the item with the button battery in her bedroom where she could reach it. Why could it stay where it was.

Rainbowsoup · 18/11/2020 11:51

Awful and neglectful.

Why have you allowed him to install locks on the doors? These need to be removed immediately. I wouldn’t trust him with the children alone

Dishwashersaurous · 18/11/2020 11:51

That’s a catalogue of pretty dreadful behaviour.

A single incident maybe but that’s a pattern of behaviour.

You need to have a serious discussion with him and explain that you are not being paranoid or super cautious

GalaxyCookieCrumble · 18/11/2020 11:54

I tell you this now, take the locks off your DC door, this is a true story, I work in the NHS and we would put a referral into SS for this alone, and colleagues on Home Visits actually have seen this, and reported. You definitely have a problem with him. In this case I think you perhaps need to get someone to speak to him, careless, selfish or unfazed unaware, either way he is putting your DC at risk.

Cupoftchaiagain · 18/11/2020 11:54

Been thinking about you OP. How does he behave to you. Because actually this neglect of his kids Is coming across as a way to control you.

rm15 · 18/11/2020 11:56

You are facilitating this dangerous behaviour and thus allowing your children potentially to be harmed. Wtf is wrong with him and you for letting this carry on. Is it a control thing?
Stop him NOW before something serious happens. I would be moving everything dangerous and telling him every single time that he was a twat. Continue and repeat. Doesn’t like it he leaves. I just cannot be sympathetic to anyone who KNOWLY puts their children in harms way, accidentally or otherwise. Locking them in their bedrooms!?!? Just what!?!?!
I tried to work out which was the worst. There are too many to choose from to be honest I just cant get my head around it.
You want to be careful he doesn’t lose them/ leave them in the car when your not there and someone passerby reports him to the police. I’m sure social services would be interested in his parenting standards.
This is genuinely the most shocking thing I have read on here in a while.
Again, WTF!?!?

wineandroses1 · 18/11/2020 11:56

I would be asking him to leave. All of this is dreadful and a serious accident waiting to happen. You would never forgive yourself if one your DC came to harm because of your stupid, lazy and inconsiderate twat of a husband. Does he have no concept of what is dangerous? Or is he really so self-absorbed that he can't be bothered to risk-assess? One ultimatum and then he's gone.

Thehop · 18/11/2020 11:59

Your husband absolutely cannot be trusted to supervise your children alone.

I’d struggle to stay with him tbh.

PaperTowels · 18/11/2020 12:00

Dear god. I too clicked expecting to find a lot of paranoid over-concern - but FRICKING HELL!!! Shutting them in their room?????!!!! Leaving them on their own (efffectively) in the park???? Dangerous stuff everywhere????

And as a PP said, also totally ignoring your concerns!!! Angry

feathermucker · 18/11/2020 12:00

Reading your other posts, this is just part of a bigger problem.

He seems more determined to spite you than to prioritise the safety of his children.

Personally, I couldn't live with someone like this. He sounds like a petulant child.

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