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AIBU to have concerns about my husband's attitude to our children's safety?

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Kerals26 · 18/11/2020 11:27

Please can I ask whether you think I am being unreasonable to be worried about my husband’s stance/behaviour on these kid’s safety issues? When I’ve tried to raise these things with him I usually get told I’m being over-sensitive and very little, if anything, changes. Here goes:

  • Leaves dangerous things lying around – for example, antifreeze in a bottle without a lid on the other day (in a VIMTO bottle nonetheless, so very appealing to the kids). Other times – bottles of superglue, random car and or chemical stuff etc. When my eldest was a baby I asked him not to put a device with a button battery within reach in her room. He argued, put it out of reach and then moved it down a few days later without my knowledge. I then found her in said room with said item, with the button battery missing which resulted in an incredibly stressful 45 minutes on the phone to 111 and searching for the battery, worried that her insides could be being burnt by it, as per the BBC info-campaign I’d seen. I found the battery, but that wasn’t really the point.
  • Refuses to move his toiletries bag from within reach of the children – these contain his medication and scissors. On another occasion, our 20-month-old accessed his medication from his toiletries bag, after he pooh-pahed my concern about this. He then told me I was being paranoid about her holding his pills as she couldn’t get them out. I decided to let it run while watching her the whole time, to prove the risk to him – within minutes she had the pills out of their packaging and in her hand. He then had to come running through to get them away from her, as I was breastfeeding my youngest. Despite this incident, he still leaves his toiletries and medication in the same place, despite me clearing space for these items in an alternative place in the bathroom.
  • Leaves the children in the car alone – its hard to tell how long this is for and at what distance. I know he left both kids in the car when he was at a workshop recently. He told me he got my eldest out when she set the alarm off, and left the younger one sleeping. I think the car was in sight of the workshop. When they went of running errands recently my eldest also told me ‘Daddy left us in the car watching Peppa Pig’. I don’t know were they were or how long this was for but if it was for 2 minutes to pay for petrol while watching the car, I can’t see he’d have set Peppa Pig up.
  • Leaves fire starting materials in reach of the children – matches, firelighters, fire starting fluids (albeit with child proof tops), insecticide spray and poop-pahing me when I have said I want to move these out of reach.
  • Refused to get a fireguard when the kids were younger (and wont now, although there are older and more aware of fire safety).
  • Takes the kids to the park and leaves them in the enclosed area while he drives his monster truck adjacent to the park. The kids are 3 and 4 so I often end up ‘spotting’ or assisting them on equipment when I take them to the park. Him not being very nearby, to dive in if required, bothers me.
  • Installing locks on the children’s doors and locking them into their room to play, while he works in another room (‘supervising’ them on their babycam). I don’t like the ‘distance supervising’ or the psychological impact of them feeling ‘locked in’. They have told me they don’t like it.
  • Inadequate supervision when out – on several occasions my eldest has told me they got ‘lost’ or couldn’t find Daddy, when they were out. In the summer he had them all day at a public event and my eldest told me there were approached by a lady asking where their Mummy was. I feel they must have been out of his sight for a while on this occasion (he admitted to me they had ‘gone round the back of the tent’ at one point) as, as an adult, I tend to observe potentially lost children for a little while before approaching them , looking round for a parent who may be watching from a distance or frantically looking for them.

What do you think of these behaviours? AIBU to be really worried?

OP posts:
Abouttimemum · 18/11/2020 13:07

This makes me feel sick with worry and they aren’t even my kids.

WhatKatyDidNxt · 18/11/2020 13:10

YANBU that’s a long list of dangerous stuff. He always has to be right doesn’t he? That’s the vibe l get. Like the device with the button battery. It was like he was proving to you how “fine” it was, in many ways daring you. Why did the device have to be in her room anyway? It’s like he’s trying to prove a point -a point l don’t understand by the way.

I don’t even know where to start with the locking them in their bedroom part. I would report you to social services for that alone. It’s abusive and neglectful. Imagine if one was choking or had a seizure? He most likely will be too busy with his hobby

Why did he have children? He appears to view them as an inconvenience

madcatladyforever · 18/11/2020 13:11

Quite honestly you need to get the hell out of there, take loads of photos, write as much evidence as you can with dates/times and go to social services. He should never ever be able to look after your children alone again.
I was an extremely careful mum yet still my son got hold of a bottle of iron pills, ate them and was in hospital for a week.
They could be abducted, seriously injured or killed and you would regret not doing anything for the rest of your life.

Soubriquet · 18/11/2020 13:12

I would be extremely concerned by all of that!

I’m not one for cotton woolling kids either but those examples are just shockingly bad.

Really appalling and I don’t even know where to start. I wouldn’t trust him being alone with the kids and the fact he moves things back makes it seem like he’s doing it because you tell him not to

ArabellaScott · 18/11/2020 13:13

I am fairly relaxed about safety, on the whole.

None of this is okay. This is not a father looking after his children, this is a man trying to avoid looking after his children and sometimes actively endangering them.

I'm afraid I wouldn't leave children alone with this man.

madcatladyforever · 18/11/2020 13:15

I worked in the burns unit as a nurse and I've seen lives ruined by this kind of behaviour, children with burns so severe they will never be out of a wheelchair. This could so easily happen to your children. He ought to know better as a police officer - for shame.

timeforawine · 18/11/2020 13:17

WTF?! Is he stupid? Does he even have a brain! No OP you are most definitely not unreasonable to be worried.
I wish i had some advice but if you leave him and he has access these things will still happen and maybe worse with you not there

Huglikeabear · 18/11/2020 13:19

He has his own toy truck.

JackAndJillsBucket · 18/11/2020 13:19

jesus op, that sounds negligent

one or more of those are just horrific accidents waiting to happen.

i honestly, honestly couldn't leave my child alone with someone who has such a lax attitude towards safety, for NO real reason other than his own ego.

he's so far beyond reasonable i don't understand it at all.

ServeTheServants · 18/11/2020 13:22

Crikey, I’m pretty relaxed when it comes to H&S and trust my DC (over a certain age) to listen and understand about safety issues, but your DH is unbelievable.

TheSunshineTrain · 18/11/2020 13:23

I feel sick to my stomach OP. I can’t believe it’s taken you all of those things above listed to realise something might be up? Your children could’ve been taken, drank bloody anti freeze, taken tablets or been burnt and that’s the gist of it: your DP is a terrible parent but you also need to take some responsibility as all these things couldn’t have happened overnight. I think this is a SS issue at hand. Those poor babies 😞

Itllbeaninterestingchristmas · 18/11/2020 13:26

You need to keep accurate records with as much evidence as you can. Talk to your HV, the lack of a fire guard will be a major flag. Unfortunately I think you’ll have a tough time with it all as he’s a police officer

Venicelover · 18/11/2020 13:26

Op, you need to resolve this now before there is an accident and you also are charged with neglect for failing to act.

TheTrashBagIsOursCmonTrashBag · 18/11/2020 13:29

That list of concerns is terrifying. I was actually getting anxious reading it.

Elle200 · 18/11/2020 13:31

He sounds like my ex. We ran, 600 miles, to get away to safety. I'd advise you to run too, before something terrible happens with his devil may care attitude.

MrsWhites · 18/11/2020 13:33

Jesus Christ - he’s a police officer, my jaw literally dropped when I read that part.

You need to leave this man OP, his behaviour is dangerous and extremely worrying. I worry about your safety too given that you haven’t felt strong enough to stand up to him with regards to locks on the doors, the divorce demands etc. Do you have family you can go and stay with?

If you do leave take any evidence you can about his behaviour towards the children, photographs of locks on the door, text messages which you have discussed your concerns etc.

Winterwoollies · 18/11/2020 13:35

I echo a PP that it almost seems like he wants something to go wrong. Would he then blame you for that, I wonder?

UsernameChat · 18/11/2020 13:35

I didn't get past the first example of leaving antifreeze around. I don't need to know more, your husband is either spectatcularly ignorant or a total dick. YANBU at all. Shockingly dangerous. If space allows, I'd buy your DH a lockable shed and shove all his shit in there. Any time he moves it into the house, throw it back in the shed. If he continues to risk your children's lives, I'd leave him and suggest contact with the children should be supervised until he can prove he can consistently provide a safe environment and adequate supervision.

Wanttolearnmore · 18/11/2020 13:36

I think the 100% YANBU says it all PP. This is all very worrying. I wouldn't leave them alone with him.

123becauseicouldntthinkofone · 18/11/2020 13:37

@PaperTowels

Dear god. I too clicked expecting to find a lot of paranoid over-concern - but FRICKING HELL!!! Shutting them in their room?????!!!! Leaving them on their own (efffectively) in the park???? Dangerous stuff everywhere????

And as a PP said, also totally ignoring your concerns!!! Angry

This

i thought exactly the same probably over reacting. To be quite frank if my OH had this attitude to those levels of safety i would have taken the kids and run for the hills. His attitude is absolutely disgraceful and sorry to be upsetting but i can only see this ending up learning the error of his ways when some level of damage has been done :(

mscongeniality · 18/11/2020 13:39

I don't know which point to be outraged at more! The locks on the doors? Leaving them unsupersived in the car/park? Leaving dangerous materials around? He shouldn't be left alone with them at all OP sorry Sad

Myglorioushairdo · 18/11/2020 13:39

I was pretty OK with this until I read about the locks!? WTF!! That is definitely not normal, bordering on illegal. He sounds neglectful to say the least. Serious, serious issues there you've got. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but if I was you I wouldn't let him be in charge of the kids at all. (BTW my dh is quite lax about safety issues because he thinks 'nothings going to happen' but will see sense if I freak out over a safety concern)

MrsHound · 18/11/2020 13:40

God almighty this is terrifying. Believe me I get that you are trying to minimise the risk to the children, but You have to get yourself and your children away from this man, not going to be easy as he is police.
You need evidence, have you photographed the Vimto bottle and all the other hazards? Tell your friends, tell your GP. Get an IDVA and tell them too, they will be able to support you. Stand up for your children, dont let him take them out or if you have to can you get them followed and more evidence obtained. He is a police officer ffs he has been safeguarding trained! He knows exactly what he is doing. Protect your children and get your evidence.

WhatKatyDidNxt · 18/11/2020 13:42

@Winterwoollies it feels like that doesn’t it. Like he’s proving nothing will happen and it will be fine? I’m not convinced, l just think you’ve been luck so far. Luck runs out

Tsubasa1 · 18/11/2020 13:46

i voted Yabu for not acting sooner