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AIBU to have concerns about my husband's attitude to our children's safety?

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Kerals26 · 18/11/2020 11:27

Please can I ask whether you think I am being unreasonable to be worried about my husband’s stance/behaviour on these kid’s safety issues? When I’ve tried to raise these things with him I usually get told I’m being over-sensitive and very little, if anything, changes. Here goes:

  • Leaves dangerous things lying around – for example, antifreeze in a bottle without a lid on the other day (in a VIMTO bottle nonetheless, so very appealing to the kids). Other times – bottles of superglue, random car and or chemical stuff etc. When my eldest was a baby I asked him not to put a device with a button battery within reach in her room. He argued, put it out of reach and then moved it down a few days later without my knowledge. I then found her in said room with said item, with the button battery missing which resulted in an incredibly stressful 45 minutes on the phone to 111 and searching for the battery, worried that her insides could be being burnt by it, as per the BBC info-campaign I’d seen. I found the battery, but that wasn’t really the point.
  • Refuses to move his toiletries bag from within reach of the children – these contain his medication and scissors. On another occasion, our 20-month-old accessed his medication from his toiletries bag, after he pooh-pahed my concern about this. He then told me I was being paranoid about her holding his pills as she couldn’t get them out. I decided to let it run while watching her the whole time, to prove the risk to him – within minutes she had the pills out of their packaging and in her hand. He then had to come running through to get them away from her, as I was breastfeeding my youngest. Despite this incident, he still leaves his toiletries and medication in the same place, despite me clearing space for these items in an alternative place in the bathroom.
  • Leaves the children in the car alone – its hard to tell how long this is for and at what distance. I know he left both kids in the car when he was at a workshop recently. He told me he got my eldest out when she set the alarm off, and left the younger one sleeping. I think the car was in sight of the workshop. When they went of running errands recently my eldest also told me ‘Daddy left us in the car watching Peppa Pig’. I don’t know were they were or how long this was for but if it was for 2 minutes to pay for petrol while watching the car, I can’t see he’d have set Peppa Pig up.
  • Leaves fire starting materials in reach of the children – matches, firelighters, fire starting fluids (albeit with child proof tops), insecticide spray and poop-pahing me when I have said I want to move these out of reach.
  • Refused to get a fireguard when the kids were younger (and wont now, although there are older and more aware of fire safety).
  • Takes the kids to the park and leaves them in the enclosed area while he drives his monster truck adjacent to the park. The kids are 3 and 4 so I often end up ‘spotting’ or assisting them on equipment when I take them to the park. Him not being very nearby, to dive in if required, bothers me.
  • Installing locks on the children’s doors and locking them into their room to play, while he works in another room (‘supervising’ them on their babycam). I don’t like the ‘distance supervising’ or the psychological impact of them feeling ‘locked in’. They have told me they don’t like it.
  • Inadequate supervision when out – on several occasions my eldest has told me they got ‘lost’ or couldn’t find Daddy, when they were out. In the summer he had them all day at a public event and my eldest told me there were approached by a lady asking where their Mummy was. I feel they must have been out of his sight for a while on this occasion (he admitted to me they had ‘gone round the back of the tent’ at one point) as, as an adult, I tend to observe potentially lost children for a little while before approaching them , looking round for a parent who may be watching from a distance or frantically looking for them.

What do you think of these behaviours? AIBU to be really worried?

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mooncakes · 18/11/2020 12:34

You need to start reporting these things now - tell your health visitor and GP, ask the HV to speak to him. Call your safeguarding hub and ask for advice.

If you leave him you need all this behaviour on record.

ShinyGreenElephant · 18/11/2020 12:36

Collect lots of evidence before you leave him to make completely sure he will not be able to get unsupervised access- get advice from womens aid and social services first. I think I would just disappear in your circumstances tbh

MustardMitt · 18/11/2020 12:36

Well, I think you should make a definitive decision about your marriage. It is over, and you should document everything you have here to show that he can’t have unsupervised access to the children.

Nice of posters to blame OP, like she can’t even go for a shit on her own without worrying her toddler might swallow daddy’s pills? As if that’s not worrying enough without people jumping on her!

bevm72yellow · 18/11/2020 12:38

You need to speak to a professional person in confidence about this GP/nurse/health visitor. It is neglect and you are reasonable to be concerned. No amount of talking to him will change this. He is attending to prioritizing his needs above those of your children. You are no doubt on edge when you leave them with him. He is ignoring your requests shrugging them off. I had the same issue with my partners lack of interest or care in their safety. As the Mum of these kids you need to take steps to prevent this. Your priority is them over your relationship. He is unsupportive in their care. You may need to consider to leave the relationship or find alternative family support if available. He loves them but he neglects their well being by loving his needs more.

GenevaL · 18/11/2020 12:40

Just noticed that he’s a police officer. I think you might be married to a man who just doesn’t process fear and risk in quite the same way as you, which is why he’s able to do his job in a way that a wuss like me couldn’t. Does he do anything like martial arts, boxing, sky diving etc? I am wondering if there’s going to be a pattern. I’m saying this as I know someone with an anti-social personality disorder who calmly takes ridiculous risks that are unfathomable to most people.

Kerals26 · 18/11/2020 12:41

@GenevaL

Just noticed that he’s a police officer. I think you might be married to a man who just doesn’t process fear and risk in quite the same way as you, which is why he’s able to do his job in a way that a wuss like me couldn’t. Does he do anything like martial arts, boxing, sky diving etc? I am wondering if there’s going to be a pattern. I’m saying this as I know someone with an anti-social personality disorder who calmly takes ridiculous risks that are unfathomable to most people.
He does extreme sports yes
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FedUpAtHomeTroels · 18/11/2020 12:42

You can't continue with this man in your home. He's completly mad.
I let my kids do all sorts, but this sounds like it's constant and done on purpose in an attempt to harm them.
So when one is burned, scarred, kidnapped, damaged for life, or even killed, what do you think will happen? He will somehow make it your responsibility he holds no responsibilty for his own children. He's vile.

ShalomToYouJackie · 18/11/2020 12:44

You've said on a previous post he's coercive and controlling, he constantly puts your kids at huge risk and doesn't give a fuck, and he's as good as told you he doesn't want to be in the marriage anymore.

For the sake of your children (and for your mental health) please leave him. Why are you with him?

user15368536798589 · 18/11/2020 12:45

It was upsetting reading how deeply abusive he is to you on your other threads. To now read details of the abuse he is inflicting on your children... horrific.

When are you leaving? Your children deserve to be protected.

ShalomToYouJackie · 18/11/2020 12:45

Also so many posters on your other threads have told you that you need to leave him and it's not a healthy relationship

Pearsapiece · 18/11/2020 12:46

Gosh I'm quite a relax parent but my stomach dropped reading these. Leaving them in the park?! Are you taking the piss? I'd have left dh and reported him to social services myself after that, let alone some of the others

user15368536798589 · 18/11/2020 12:47

From your children's perspective, dad hurts them and mum lets him.

That is very damaging in its own right.

MedusasBadHairDay · 18/11/2020 12:52

I can see why you are reluctant to just leave, why you're worried about him having the kids without you being there to reduce the danger to the kids. I wish I had some practical advice for you, I really hope there is someone who can help you get out and also make sure he doesn't get unsupervised access.

Marjoriesdoor · 18/11/2020 12:54

Everything you have written is incredibly worrying. I work with children and if I were to become aware of some of the things you have written, I would be making a safeguarding referral for the child/children.

You need professional support and advice to enable you to remove him from your home and prevent unsupervised access to your children.

The thought of my own children being looked after by someone like this makes me feel sick so I can only imagine how you must be feeling.

I can understand the harsh tone of some of the previous posters who are shocked you would allow this to continue but if you are the victim of coercive control for long enough, you lose sight of what is normal and the perpetrators are very good at convincing you that the problem is you.

It's good that you have asked for advice, now speak to Women's Aid and move forward from there. You know this cannot continue or you wouldn't have posted.

Good luck!

diamondpony80 · 18/11/2020 12:54

If it were a friends children you'd be probably consider reporting the parents to social services. I couldn't be married to someone who was a danger to my children - even if he was the father. It's his job to protect them!

Magicpaintbrush · 18/11/2020 12:55

He is a shit parent. Absolutely shit!!! Many of the things you've mentioned could have ended with the hospitalisation, abduction or death of your children. Who the fuck leaves a 3 and 4 year old alone in a playground and then fucks off for a drive??? That is insanity. Do NOT let him tell you that any of this stuff is normal, it isn't, he is gaslighting you and clearly has zero concern for the safety of his own kids. You need to put your foot down or leave before one of them is seriously harmed.

flossletsfloss · 18/11/2020 12:55

Bloody hell this is awful and your children are at risk. Do something about it!

LilyLongJohn · 18/11/2020 12:57

I just came onto this thread thinking it would be some softy softy discussion about kids playing with something ridiculous. But dear god your dh is a massive knob! Is he trying to upset you and, at best, injure his kids.

My brother once drink vodka out of a water bottle when he was a toddler. Thankfully he didn't drink much as he didn't like the taste. But dc will drink stuff they shouldn't, let alone thinking it's vimto.

I can't believe he thinks that locking the dc in a room is acceptable.

ChaToilLeam · 18/11/2020 12:58

OP, I would tread very carefully and not let him know of any plans if you do decide to leave. So many red flags, I do understand why you would not leave if there is a chance he would have the kids unsupervised. I hope you can access help and support.

Kerals26 · 18/11/2020 12:59

@Magicpaintbrush

He is a shit parent. Absolutely shit!!! Many of the things you've mentioned could have ended with the hospitalisation, abduction or death of your children. Who the fuck leaves a 3 and 4 year old alone in a playground and then fucks off for a drive??? That is insanity. Do NOT let him tell you that any of this stuff is normal, it isn't, he is gaslighting you and clearly has zero concern for the safety of his own kids. You need to put your foot down or leave before one of them is seriously harmed.
Ah just realised how people might be understanding the monster truck thing - it's a toy one, not a real one. So he was in the green space next to the playground, with a good view of the children.
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bevm72yellow · 18/11/2020 13:00

You are in a tough position trying to maintain your family unit and all demands. Womens Aid are a fantastic organisation to speak to in confidence too. They will aid and assist you with the welfare of your children who are paramount in this. Good luck and let us know the outcome

rm15 · 18/11/2020 13:04

OP I’ve just read your other threads.

You are worth so so much more.

Maybe him being a police office gives him over confidence in terms of safety? I don’t know.

Either way his behaviour is completely unacceptable, both towards the children and towards you. :(

LannieDuck · 18/11/2020 13:04

Blimey Shock I just... couldn't. He's not safe to leave kids with.

I sacked my cleaner for repeatedly failing to put the lid back on a bottle of bleach properly and leaving it on a low-ish shelf when the kids were toddlers.

Did he finally acknowledge your point about the medications after your LO nearly swallowed them?

I can see how worried you are about splitting up and having to let him have any sole childcare. I don't know what's best to advise if SS aren't interested in the examples you've cited here.

Rachie1973 · 18/11/2020 13:05

Jeez. I came on fully expecting to tell you to get a grip and ended up horrified! He’s a walking disaster zone.

2020iscancelled · 18/11/2020 13:06

Your partner is an abuser.

He is abusing you and he is abusing your kids.

What are you going to do when something terrible happens? How will you feel? How will you justify to yourself that you never acted when you had the chance?

Please talk to someone you trust in real life and make arrangements to go somewhere safe.

This is honestly shocking and heartbreaking