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To dump DP over his female friend.

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femalefriend · 16/11/2020 09:08

When DP and I first got together, he opened up a conversation about his female best friend. The reason he initiated the conversation is because this female friend had caused lots of issues for him in his last relationship. He told me that he uses this friend as a confidant, she is the only one he can really be himself around without judgement, they go out for dinner, drinks, nights out. They also kissed on an occasion when they were teenagers. He wanted to know my thoughts as his ex had not liked this friendship and it was one of the contributing factors for them splitting up.

I was honest and said I don't think most women would like to idea of their DP regularly opening up to another woman, going for dinners, going for nights out just the two of them etc. It wasn't something I felt overly comfortable with and could understand why his ex didn't like it either. He said he understood my position and was happy to adapt this friendship into something that wouldn't cause anymore issues for him. Fine.

There have been a couple of instances now relating to this friend. In the first instance, they went for dinner one evening, he never told me about it and I found out much later down the line. This caused an argument as I felt he had lied in the first instance by pretending to be happy to adapt his friendship, and also indirectly lied by not telling me about it.

Every time we go through a difficult patch this 'friend' seems to appear in a big way. After we had an argument about something unrelated he went on a night out with her after work, then booked tickets for them to go to a concert the following weekend together.

Recently, we split up and within 2 weeks he had booked a holiday abroad for the two of them to be away for 4 nights together, staying in separate rooms in an apartment. She posted photos of their holiday all over her social media accounts, knowing full well I, our friends/family and everyone else would see them. To add insult to injury, I had asked him so many times for us to go away together and he kept saying he was worried about covid. He said he only went on the holiday as he was so upset over losing me and needed an escape.

We then decided to get back together and he said he knew he couldn't continue with the friendship in the same way after everything that has happened. After the nights out, dinners and especially the holiday he knew it was inappropriate and he knew he needed to put me first from now on. This was one of the reasons I even agreed to give him a second chance. It has now been 3 weeks and he is saying it will be very difficult for him and it's easier said than done giving up a friendship like that...

AIBU to dump him and not get back together again?

OP posts:
Billben · 16/11/2020 09:31

Sorry but no way would I put up with this. You’ll always be the third wheel in the relationship. She is the only one he can open up to and who can understand him? That should be you. The only thing he doesn’t get from her is sex. That’s what you are there for.

VinylDetective · 16/11/2020 09:34

@Respectabitch

And I would have fuck all time for someone who expected me not to go to dinner with a straight male friend and thought they could dictate on what terms my friendship and interaction with that person took place. In fact, I'm bi, so if DH was of your mind, I would never be allowed to text, go on holiday with someone else, or socialise one on one at all.
This. Do him a favour and let him go and find someone who understands that different sex platonic friendship is possible.
MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 16/11/2020 09:34

He's lied and he's putting her first. He's in love with his 'best friend' imo. I can't understand why he'd keep trashing his relationships if he wasn't!
No woman is going to like her partner getting all their emotional support from another woman. The normal thing is to lean more on your partner and less on your friends when you get involved in a serious relationship.
No man would like this either, if it was reversed.
I'd dump him.

Moltenpink · 16/11/2020 09:35

Personally whenever I’ve seen a m/f “best friends” relationship like you describe, one side has unrequited attraction & is in denial, and the other pretends to not realise and keeps them hanging on. Not healthy. Is she single?

freeingNora · 16/11/2020 09:41

What man doesn't like two women keen to be with him whether platonically or not. It's all very triangulating and childish

Here's the thing intimate relationships need work and if she's the only one he can truly open up to take it as read that you'll never measure up not because you can't but because he'll never give you the opportunity

Choose life, choose yourself, choose freedom, choose peace, choose someone who loves you enough to put the effort and time in it takes to make an amazing partnership.

Thanks
Butchyrestingface · 16/11/2020 09:41

To add insult to injury, I had asked him so many times for us to go away together and he kept saying he was worried about covid.

The friendship wouldn't bother me. This would. I can't see this working.

WanderingMilly · 16/11/2020 09:42

Bin him, he is too close to his female friend.
It's not the same as having a blokey friend.....they went away together and he opens up to her.

Either they turn this friendship into a relationship or he needs to stop having her as a close confidant. It's not about dictating his friendships, it's the fact that while he's so close to someone else, he will never develop a proper closeness to another partner.
And the fact he seems not to be able to do without her is a big no.

Explain this to him properly, and then walk away.

TwentyViginti · 16/11/2020 09:43

The only thing he doesn’t get from her is sex. That’s what you are there for.

I agree.

LemmysAceCard · 16/11/2020 09:43

His ego must be massive. He is loving this, a friend and girlfriend vying for his affection and attention.

ThousandsAreSailing · 16/11/2020 09:44

Moltenpink
I agree. I thought I had a male best friend and, 20 years later, he told me he always hoped we'd get together. I was always friendly and respectful to any partners he had and backed off. I wouldn't have gone alone on holiday with him if there was a partner on the scene
I think he is in love with her and she enjoys the power and keeps him hanging on

MyOwnSummer · 16/11/2020 09:45

When I was in my early 20s, I was "the friend" in this situation. I had a close male friend, we spent a lot of time together and supported each other through some really harsh life events. He got a girlfriend, who HATED it. I was single throughout.

The truth? He did have feelings for me. Nothing ever happened, or ever would have happened regardless of whether he was single or not because I didn't feel the same way. The girlfriend was absolutely right to be uncomfortable about it though.

They split up, I moved away, he met and married a lovely woman. I went to the wedding. We are still friends, but in a much less intense way because we have both grown up and are now in committed relationships.

You don't say how old you are, but if he's over the age of about 25 this is really quite notably immature behaviour. And yes, I can see why you are feeling uncomfortable.

Yeahnahmum · 16/11/2020 09:47

My bf is male
Has been my bf for 20 years
Been with my dh for 5 years. He doesnt care. Knows our relationship is purely Platonic, but at the same time my bf is my friendship soul mate. We go out for dinners. Drinks. Cinema etc etc
He is my bestee. Just because he has a dick doesnt mean anything to me. Nor my dh. It is about trust.

Your dp relationship with her is not the issue. Unless you are super insecure.
Your problem is that he lied. And that is a biiiig thing

joystir59 · 16/11/2020 09:48

He is in a close emotionally dependent relationship with his best friend. This doesn't allow him to be truly himself open and vulnerable with his romantic and sexual partners. He will need to work on this situation if he wants a full on open trusting sexual and emotional relationship with someone. At the moment I would say he is emotionally unavailable.

JingleAndTonic · 16/11/2020 09:49

I've been in your shoes and hated it, there were two female best friends in my situation. We split up, one of the besties has an on again off again romance with someone it's never going to work with and it's just a matter of time before she and my ex are together, I would put money on it. I always got on well with her and thought she was nice but she's never been able to maintain female friendships and it's not difficult to see why.

Also the holiday element would be an absolute dealbreaker for me, what an arsehole he is to do that - no matter what spin he puts on it about being heartbroken. I would find that really disrespectful.

YANBU to dump him and not look back. He didn't deserve the second chance you gave him. Sorry Sad

OrigamiOwl · 16/11/2020 09:49

I'm fine with my partner having friends of the opposite gender. But the red flag for me here is refusing to go on holiday with you... But happy to go on holiday with her. He's down you exactly where in the pecking order you are.

BrumBoo · 16/11/2020 09:50

@Bluntness100

Op you can’t change who you are. You jealous and insecure because she’s female, if it was a bloke your reaction would not be like this

Yes I think you need to end it, it is not right to dictate he can’t have friends of the opposite sex.

This is an extreme simplification of the matter. My husband has many female friends, in his actual job there are probably 60/40 women to men as colleagues. Friendship doesn't invade relationships like this. We can all pretend to be the 'cool wife', but we know that hetrosexual men and women of similar ages, and a with a close connection, can cross that line quite easily.

Instinct can count for a lot here - I would take a great big bet that the ops boyfriend is keeping his friend as his 'after I've played the field' option. At their (ops boyfriend and his 'just mates' mate) wedding in 5 years time the first dance will be 'Saved The Best Till Last', as she currently plays that song on loop whilst 'waiting' for him to 'see her' Hmm. He's a dick and she's a doormat, just run @femalefriend.

yourestandingonmyneck · 16/11/2020 09:50

Bin him. This is horrendous. And her posting pics all over social media....she sounds like a trouble maker. If she actually cares about him as a friend, she would be more careful about not breaking up his relationships.

Leave them to it.

RuedeRoberval · 16/11/2020 09:52

Goes on holiday with her but not with you Hmm

BertiesLanding · 16/11/2020 09:53

I think your DP has commitment and intimacy problems that are not directly to do with either you or his friend - but you both serve a purpose.

CorianderBlues · 16/11/2020 09:54

Are you both 16? Reads like it.

You are saying he can only have male friends.

YABU.

joystir59 · 16/11/2020 09:54

I do agree with people posting that they have bestie friendships with people of the opposite sex (same sex in my case as I'm a lesbian). I have friends with whom I go out, on holiday, for dinner etc and so did my DW (recently deceased). But our closest emotional ties were always with one another and we told each other every thing. No lies. Trust and openness. A relationship cannot grow and deepen otherwise.

rorosemary · 16/11/2020 09:59

I have a male best friend. My husband is always welcome to join when we meet up. I'll never put his wants or needs above my husbands, no matter how easy he is to talk to. Your partner is crossing boundaries with this woman, and that is what's not ok.

IJustWantSomeBees · 16/11/2020 10:00

I would leave him, for obvious reasons.

Scarlettpixie · 16/11/2020 10:02

He wants to do as he likes and hopes you will adapt. Female friends are fine but going out for dinner and not telling you, going to concerts, going on holiday - no I would not be happy either.

My ‘DH’ had an affair with someone who he said he just wanted to be friends with but knew I wouldn’t agree. After I found out about the affair he said he only ever wanted to be friends with her but ended up sneaking about because I wouldn’t like it and that is how they ended up having an affair! He said he wanted to be with me and I gave him the ultimatum. He stopped seeing her for a short time but then began messaging her again and sulking because he couldn’t see her. He wasn't going to change and we are no longer together.

Newwayofthinking · 16/11/2020 10:03

Dump him, find someone who will give you 100%

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