To ask what’s the most toe curling OTT boast/showing off you’ve heard from a parent about their child?

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Just seen a FB post from a mum friend boasting about her 9yo daughter doing online dance and gym sessions via zoom and practising for her 11 plus complete with picture of said child sat at her desk and smiling for the camera. Hope the child gets time to chill out now and then! Mum obviously needs us all to believe her daughter is a high achiever! It was so cringy though and I wondered if anyone else out there was biting their lip at stuff like this?!

It's not an entirely new phenomenon but it's certainly been amplified by social media. When I was a around 10 (way way before social media) there was a front page spread in the local newspaper about one of my classmates who had been chosen to appear in a local production of the Nutcracker. She was a mouse as I recall. We were baffled as to why she got a front page spread but nothing was mentioned about another classmate who was playing Clara, the lead, in the much larger city ballet company's production. Found out later that her mother had paid for the article.

A mum I used to be friends with kept bragging how clever her son was. She even told us that once he was buckled in his car seat, he looked at her and she'd say "Show Mummy the way to Tesco", (a mile away) and he'd point the way with his finger, ie. straight ahead, left, right etc. Fair enough, but he was only 12 weeks old at the time.

I have a very close friend who really suffers with this affliction. Her children were the best at everything, in her opinion, but had no say in anything and her house was run like a training camp.
I on the other hand was always very honest if one of mine had been naughty or received a less than favourable report etc.
At one parents evening (she didn't realise I was queueing behind her and next in line to speak to the teacher) the teacher said to her "well, I've had to move your son twice this month because he won't stop talking" and she replied "Oh, I expect you mean away from Harry".
Harry, is my DS! It was a horrible moment.

@ettabea

A mum I used to be friends with kept bragging how clever her son was. She even told us that once he was buckled in his car seat, he looked at her and she'd say "Show Mummy the way to Tesco", (a mile away) and he'd point the way with his finger, ie. straight ahead, left, right etc. Fair enough, but he was only 12 weeks old at the time.

Wtf?! Please tell me you called her out on her BS 😂😂😂😂😂

Oh I did brag last year 🙈
My DD7 is behind in school ( she had a stroke and a heart transplant )
She WON a race at sports day after having to re learn to walk etc at 4.
I boasted maybe a little too much 🙈

@BluebellsGreenbells aren't we all at the minute

A mum once complained to me how unfair it was that schools provide extra support and tuition for children who were having difficulties in class yet there was no extra help for gifted children! Apparently she believed her 7 year old to be gifted therefore should have been receiving more support!

@Whattheactual20201

Oh I did brag last year 🙈 My DD7 is behind in school ( she had a stroke and a heart transplant ) She WON a race at sports day after having to re learn to walk etc at 4. I boasted maybe a little too much 🙈

Well that sounds very well justified!

Well done her! That is absolutely brilliant. I bet you were as proud as punch.

She sounds amazing. You must be bursting with pride x

@Bettysnow so you don't think Sen children deserve support?

[quote HallieKnight]@Bettysnow so you don't think Sen children deserve support?[/quote]
@HallieKnight she didn’t say that at all!

@HailleKnight I most certainly did not say that! Maybe read what people post properly before commenting!

@Whattheactual20201 Amazing! Nothing wrong at all being immensely proud of what your DD has achieved.

@Bettysnow giftedness is a Sen...

@HallieKnight you are joking, right? Please tell me you're joking...

[quote MummytoCSJH]@HallieKnight you are joking, right? Please tell me you're joking...[/quote]
No, I'm not joking about believing all Sen children should receive appropriate support.

Technically GAT (Gifted and Talented) kids do have SEN and can have an IEP (Think it's an EHCP in England?). As their needs are not inline with their mainstream peers.

However, people need to read the room, really unnecessary to demand help with the services for dependant kids with learning needs are at breaking point.

As far as I'm aware, gifted and talented does not currently fall into the legal framework for SEN or EHCP. This is from the SEN policy at my DC school:

A child or young person has SEN if they have a learning difficulty or disability which calls for
special educational provision to be made for them. A child of compulsory school age has a learning difficulty or disability if they:
a) have a significantly greater difficulty in learning than the majority of others of the same age; or
b) have a disability which prevents or hinders them from making use of educational facilities of a kind generally provided for others of the same age.

This can be characterised by progress in school which:

• is significantly slower than that of their peers starting from the same baseline;
• fails to match or better the child’s previous rate of progress;
• fails to close the attainment gap between the child and their peers; and
• widens the attainment gap.

A very small number of children will be identified as Higher Achiever Pupils (HAP) and will have their needs met, using additional different approaches, to challenge their interests. This is not part of SEN provision or the SEN register.

Gancanny
Same at my school. We identify highly able students, and some students with SEN may also be highly able, but 'I think my child is gifted / smarter than the rest' does not equal SEN provision.

If someone thinks their child isn't having their needs appropriately met in school then they should discuss it with the teacher in the first instance. If they are just having a good old moan that equates to quite an unpleasant 'children I think are stupid get support and I want my child to have something extra to match' attitude then they need to get a grip.

All children deserve to have their educational needs met. If you deny that to a child because they have a specific diagnosis that discrimination and that's not ok.

All children deserve to have their educational needs met. If you deny that to a child because they have a specific diagnosis that discrimination and that's not ok.

You do realise that teachers differentiate the lessons for students anyway and that SEN diagnosis, high needs funding, SEN support etc are in addition to differentiated teaching?

Or are you going to continue with your 'parent labelled giftnesses is SEN' argument?

This reminds me of when we get complaint phonecalls because it's 'unfair' that some students get scribes for exams due to SEN and the parent thinks their child getting an achey hand after a long exam should also get a scribe / their child would benefit more from a scribe because they are so bright and have lots to say but writing for such a long time prevents them showing how brilliant they are.

@ettabea

A mum I used to be friends with kept bragging how clever her son was. She even told us that once he was buckled in his car seat, he looked at her and she'd say "Show Mummy the way to Tesco", (a mile away) and he'd point the way with his finger, ie. straight ahead, left, right etc. Fair enough, but he was only 12 weeks old at the time.

Schools differentiate within normal range but when a child has a diagnosed sen they aren't within the normal range. And the more severe the Sen the greater the need for additional support is

But being bright isn't a SEN as SEN denotes a learning difficulty that puts the child at a disadvantage. You don't need a diagnosis to be on the SEN register and, while there is some overlap, some children with a diagnosis/disability/health issue (i.e., SN -special needs) will have no SEN.

Provision is made elsewhere for Gifted and Talented and High Ability Pupils, outside of SEN provision.

Why would you begrudge a child with SEN getting support and mistakenly believe that this is discrimination against HAP children?

Schools differentiate within normal range but when a child has a diagnosed sen they aren't within the normal range. And the more severe the Sen the greater the need for additional support is

Schools differentiate for the students that are in front of them.

Across my timetable I teach students who are highly able, students with SEMH needs, students with dyslexia who are very able, students with developmental delays, students with disabilities, students with hearing impairments, students with complex media conditions and who split their education between mainstream school and hospital provision, students who have autism and have academic weaknesses, student with autism who are academically able, and everything in between. Exactly which part of that means schools differentiate for a 'normal' range?

Why are you determined to try and put able children into the SEN category and then speak of severe SEN needs? It comes across like you have a very limited understanding of SEN .

@HallieKnight okaaaaay...