To ask what’s the most toe curling OTT boast/showing off you’ve heard from a parent about their child?

[Rainbowb]

Just seen a FB post from a mum friend boasting about her 9yo daughter doing online dance and gym sessions via zoom and practising for her 11 plus complete with picture of said child sat at her desk and smiling for the camera. Hope the child gets time to chill out now and then! Mum obviously needs us all to believe her daughter is a high achiever! It was so cringy though and I wondered if anyone else out there was biting their lip at stuff like this?!

[HallieKnight]

It's sad that in 2020 there are still prejudices against Sen 😔

[Gancanny]

High Ability isn't a SEN, separate provision is made for high ability pupils.

Its sad that in 2020 people would want to take away the scarce provision for pupils at a disadvantage due to SEN by claiming its unfair on the brighter children.

[LolaSmiles]

It's sad that in 2020 there are still prejudices against Sen

What's sad is that in 2020 someone with evidently limited knowledge of SEN would try to coopt the genuine difficulties that some children face in a system thay can be appalling to navigate at times to push their own agenda.

[HallieKnight]

Making sure Sen kids educational needs are met wouldn't take away anything from them...

[isthismylifenow]

My dd's dance school goes a prize giving each year. One year a new girl started, the first day I saw her mum outside and she said that she had changed schools as the previous school wasn't challenged her enough, as her dancing was exceptional.

From what I saw during the year, and I've hung around waiting and sometimes watching dance classes for 15 years now, you can pick up which child has a natural talent and which has to work a little bit harder. This particular child really did fall into the latter category, but I had expected something exceptional from the way her mum spoke.

Roll on to the end of the year and prize giving was in full swing. The mother got up with a box and asked for the microphone. So we all thought she was donating a trophy or something. She got up and proceeded to award a huge trophy to her own daughter, for being the most amazing dancer in the school and blah blah blah. The dance teachers eyes went like saucers, as she had no clue the mother was going to do this. The trophy was massive, but also it was a crystal one. If she had been at any previous years prize giving, she would have known that only one crystal trophy goes out each year, to the dancer of the year. It's the top prize. Which this mother completely overshadowed.

We all sat there speechless! And then afterwards the child was swanning around with this damn trophy which she really didn't earn.

The dance head had words with her after, and the following year she never returned. I feel sorry for the child though. She probably did the same thing at the next school as well.

[Gancanny]

It would if the limited resources for SEN children who are struggling to keep up were applied to high ability pupils who, by their very definition, are not falling behind and are not having difficulty reaching the baseline attainment levels for their age group.

Provision is already made for High Ability Pupils (HAP), it already exists, they do not need further provision from the SEN budget. Why are you struggling with this other than to goady?

[DdraigGoch]

@isthismylifenow blimey, I think you get the prize of this thread for that one. The nerve of her!

[HallieKnight]

All Sen children deserve to have their educational needs met. Your prejudices don't negate a child's diagnosis

[SallySolardel]

Does anyone remember the thread on here where someone believed their baby was so exceptional - the midwife had written in the birth notes that the baby was "alert" which obviously meant that the midwife thought this was the brightest baby they'd ever seen.

[LolaSmiles]

You are still deliberately trying to talk about SEN when it is clear from your posts that your concern is highly able children.

Some highly able children might also be on the SEN register. Other highly able children won't be.

[Gancanny]

All Sen children deserve to have their educational needs met. Your prejudices don't negate a child's diagnosis

Being high ability isn't a diagnosis. A child might have a diagnosis of something else and also be high ability, one does not negate the other, but being high ability alone is not a SEN and does not meet the criteria for SEN funding which is why schools have separate provision for high ability pupils.

[LolaSmiles]

Gancanny
That's why they're deliberately saying SEN to hide that fact that their real beef is with SEND budgets being used to support children with SEN instead of being creamed off to give extra to children who don't have barriers caused by SEN.

[Wheresmykimchi]

@HallieKnight

Making sure Sen kids educational needs are met wouldn't take away anything from them...

You are deliberately being goady.

No it wouldn't , but it would take out of the already limited budget for a child who has barriers to the classroom which a GAT child doesn't have

[Happycamper78]

One of the dads from my son's football team took responsibility for the write up on matches for the local paper. Every week his son got most of the write up. One week his son didn't play so we all looked forward to a more balanced account of the match. It started with..despite the absence of star player, his son's name, the team managed to hold their own....so he still got his mention 😂

[Saoirse7]

@Gancanny

High Ability isn't a SEN, separate provision is made for high ability pupils.

Its sad that in 2020 people would want to take away the scarce provision for pupils at a disadvantage due to SEN by claiming its unfair on the brighter children.

I'm
Not referring to high ability pupils, I an referring to Gifted and Talented where their level is way beyond their peers. These can also be pupils with existing needs such as Autism.

[SignOnTheWindow]

@ChooseYourLameName

I’m guilty of this. My DC is 3 and non verbal. Two days ago he said ‘I want coke, not clear stuff!’ He’s never said anything other than occasional babbles.

I bragged all over Facebook, Instagram and Twitter! And now mumsnet it seems

Love this! I'm with your DC!

And that must have been fab to hear. xx

[HallieKnight]

Like I said, it doesn't matter how prejudice you are it doesn't change their sen diagnosis

[LolaSmiles]

Saoirse7
Gifted and talented isn't under SEN.
Some children with SEN may also be highly able.

HallieKnight
Why are you still going on about SEN diagnosis?

[HallieKnight]

Because that's what we're talking about

[LolaSmiles]

No, you are going on about it after trying to conflate highly able students with SEN provision. They are two separate things.

Highly able students are covered through highly able provision.
Students with SEN are covered through SEN provision.
Some students who are highly able may also be on the SEN register (which is not exclusively for those with a diagnosis).
Some students who are highly able do not have SEN


All you're doing is showing your lack of knowledge in this area.

[HallieKnight]

We aren't talking about "highly able students"

[LolaSmiles]

And yet you insist giftedness is a Sen and then go on to claim people are prejudiced and talk about SEN.

[Wheresmykimchi]

@HallieKnight

We aren't talking about "highly able students"

Yes you are. Stop trying to label it SEN.

[HallieKnight]

I can't tell if the ignorance is genuine or not but "highly able" is not the same as being diagnosed with the Sen giftedness

[Gancanny]

You are making no sense.