Donald has barricaded himself in the WH and we have Georgia on our minds. (Trump thread #113)

[TheNorthWestPawsage]

Will Donald pardon the turkeys or will the turkeys pardon Donald?

Previous thread:
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The Trump campaign has filed lawsuits challenging Pennsylvania’s election results and 3-day extension of its mail-in ballot deadline.

The Trump campaign has not filed lawsuits challenging North Carolina’s election results or 9-day extension of its mail-in ballot deadline.

twitter.com/frankluntz/status/1326577934048489472?s=21

Can any posters in the US provide feedback on how ordinary Republicans (as opposed to die hard Trumpers - assuming there is a difference) feel about DT's actions in refusing to concede and apparently having no concern about casting doubt on the US democratic process?

I suppose I'm trying to gauge how much his actions are a "turn off/on" in the sense that it is a suggestion of how much influence he'll have moving forward.

DH and I were discussing this yesterday and he's very much of the view that in the coming weeks DT's support will melt away as it's become obvious that he's lost.

I'm not so sure given I think thee will be a core group of supporters who'll stay with the stolen election narrative, but what I admit to not understanding is what proportion of republican voters feel this way.

I've seen the poll suggesting that the majority of Americans (including republicans) accept the Biden victory but it would be interesting to have some feedback of people personally experiences/thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

[quote DuncinToffee]The Trump campaign has filed lawsuits challenging Pennsylvania’s election results and 3-day extension of its mail-in ballot deadline.

The Trump campaign has not filed lawsuits challenging North Carolina’s election results or 9-day extension of its mail-in ballot deadline.

twitter.com/frankluntz/status/1326577934048489472?s=21[/quote]

I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked to the core!

Oh yes. I wondered this as well. Would love to know the answer

Ivanka trump says thank you Alaska after AP call the state for Trump.
The same AP whose calls for several other states for Biden "don't count"

DeRigeur
A lot of ordinary republicans quietly voted for Biden.
The brighter ones realise how badly the GOP brand has been damaged
(like Brexit has eviscerated the Tory party)

Those I see posting are just laying low till he finally concedes and the Inauguration is over

a sweepstake on the numbers turning out for Biden might be fun

A lot of ordinary republicans quietly voted for Biden.

Wasn't it in the news that some (many?) voted for Biden, and then for a Republican Senator?

Wasn't it in the news that some (many?) voted for Biden, and then for a Republican Senator?
Would not surprise me in the least.

A couple I chat to wanted Trump out but Biden not to have both houses.

Would have got away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky voters

Tired
A timely meme
variety.com/2020/tv/news/ken-spears-dead-scooby-doo-co-creator-1234825813/

What do you say to someone who repeatedly keeps on saying that the election result has only been decided by the media? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Well, if it were me I'd say, "Yes, of course. We're all just going to have to be patient for a few more days until all the states have declared," and treat it as a simple statement rather than a bone of contention.

@SugarbabyMilly

What do you say to someone who repeatedly keeps on saying that the election result has only been decided by the media? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

It was good enough for Trump in 2016 ...

@SugarbabyMilly

What do you say to someone who repeatedly keeps on saying that the election result has only been decided by the media? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Leave the discussion until all states have closed their counts?

Tell them to look at the numbers already counted and those still to be counted and to let you know who they think has won?
The counted numbers are not media projections. They are officially released.

@Lweji

A lot of ordinary republicans quietly voted for Biden.

Wasn't it in the news that some (many?) voted for Biden, and then for a Republican Senator?

That's really interesting - thanks.

It makes sense as a strategic vote to get rid of Trump but still support the GOP.

Following on I wonder how they are feeling about the GOP seemingly still supporting DT's accusations....

Can someone just send for some vallium, spoon them in, then walk him out gently a couple of hours later. There, there, Donny, its going to be fine.

Love that West Wing meme.

Sorry trying to catch up.

I am actually going to say that I think that the republicans are aware of a bigger plan here.

There were 7 faithless electoral college votes in 2016, I genuinely wonder how many there will be this year? What does trump know?

Its funny because he has also screwed over the intelligence agency, the exact people who highlighted the Russian machinations in the 2016 election.

He is arse covering. Hiding shit. Potentially making it up. Putting clearly knows something to as he hasn't messaged Biden.

With his cronies in top intelligence positions, I believe that he will be covered for.

In the UK Pomeroy would have been called for to resign after his comments. Why can't the USA do that?

How is such delusion democracy? If everything is manipulated by Trump as I expect it will be, does everyone just fold and concede that he is king?

Shocking

Putin

www.axios.com/trump-electoral-college-biden-68d94e27-ace7-4da8-9e22-af7a62fe5149.html

'As the weaknesses of President Trump's legal cases to overturn Joe Biden's win become clearer, Republicans are talking more about the Electoral College — hinting at an extreme last-chance way for Trump to cling to power.'

White House political director Brian Jack becomes the latest person to test positive for Covid after attending the election night party.

www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/11/world/covid-19-coronavirus-live-updates#another-white-house-official-tests-positive-after-attending-an-election-night-event

@chickenyhead

Sorry trying to catch up.

I am actually going to say that I think that the republicans are aware of a bigger plan here.

There were 7 faithless electoral college votes in 2016, I genuinely wonder how many there will be this year? What does trump know?

Its funny because he has also screwed over the intelligence agency, the exact people who highlighted the Russian machinations in the 2016 election.

He is arse covering. Hiding shit. Potentially making it up. Putting clearly knows something to as he hasn't messaged Biden.

With his cronies in top intelligence positions, I believe that he will be covered for.

In the UK Pomeroy would have been called for to resign after his comments. Why can't the USA do that?

How is such delusion democracy? If everything is manipulated by Trump as I expect it will be, does everyone just fold and concede that he is king?

Shocking

“In Donald Trump's case, you have to separate fantasy from reality,” says Bob Bauer, former Obama White House counsel who is helping head up Biden’s voter protection program. “You don't want to help him elevate his more fantastic pronouncements by overreacting to them because that's what he wants you to do.

“He wants everybody to chase him into fantasy land, and that helps him to control the narrative.”

From www.politico.com/news/2020/11/07/this-f-ing-virus-inside-donald-trumps-2020-undoing-434716

But this has been predicted since 2016...

www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2016/12/16/the-scandal-that-will-take-down-the-electoral-college/amp/

Walter Bloomberg @deltaone*

BIDEN'S CURRENT LEAD IN PENNSYLVANIA IS GREATER THAN THE MARGIN NEEDED TO TRIGGER A RECOUNT, DATA SHOWS

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/11/can-donald-trump-stay-in-office-second-term-president-coup

Quite an interesting read