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Donald has barricaded himself in the WH and we have Georgia on our minds. (Trump thread #113)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/11/2020 09:31

Will Donald pardon the turkeys or will the turkeys pardon Donald?

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HoldMyLobster · 17/11/2020 17:26

We just have to remember that if we lose our ability to laugh, that's another thing he's taken from us. We can't let that happen, even if we have to laugh through tears or with gritted teeth.

Yes! In the meantime I console myself with the thought that I'm nowhere near as stressed this week as I was three weeks ago when the Donald was potentially going to get voted back in.

Whereas now...

Donald has barricaded himself in the WH and we have Georgia on our minds. (Trump thread #113)
DuncinToffee · 17/11/2020 17:43

Aww, Diddums,, Trump and Republicans no good, very bad 72 hours in court

www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/zoetillman/trump-election-lawsuits-failing-pennsylvania?__twitter_impression=true

AcrossthePond55 · 17/11/2020 17:58

From the Buzzfeed article:

The morning after Election Day, Trump declared that he would take the election to the Supreme Court, invoking the image of another Bush v. Gore, when the justices halted a ballot recount in Florida that handed the 2000 election to former president George W. Bush. Two weeks later, the legal landscape does not look at all like 2000. Trump would have to find legal paths to flip multiple states that Biden won, and the only case pending before the Supreme Court involves the fate of the 10,000 absentee ballots that arrived in Pennsylvania after Election Day.

This has always been his endgame, his 'Hail Mary' play. He's absolutely sure that if he can get a case to the SCOTUS that they'll rule in his favour and toss out the complete election result because he 'has' three justices who 'owe him big time'. All he knows is quid pro quo and he confidently expects those justices to play it his way. TBH, I'm not so sure they would. They know he's yesterday's news even if he doesn't.

I'm not a lawyer, but his expectation that SCOTUS could toss out the complete election result on the basis of some flimsy lawsuit filed based on some narrow issue shows how stupid he really is.

BruceAndNosh · 17/11/2020 18:01

Even 'bought' judges have to produce a sound legal basis for their decisions

BruceAndNosh · 17/11/2020 18:05

Do you think we should all gently remind @sidneypowell1 on Twitter (Trump's latest legal stooge and the brains behind the #releasethekraken) that naming your pile of sworn affadavits after a MYTHICAL creature maybe doesn't send the right message.

DGRossetti · 17/11/2020 18:07

I'm not a lawyer, but his expectation that SCOTUS could toss out the complete election result on the basis of some flimsy lawsuit filed based on some narrow issue shows how stupid he really is.

Didn't one of Nixons appointees recuse themselves over the Watergate tapes ?

Nothing to stop a supreme going native. Not like they're hanging out for a peerage is it ?

DuncinToffee · 17/11/2020 18:10

@BruceAndNosh

Even 'bought' judges have to produce a sound legal basis for their decisions
Enter Rudi Giuliani

twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1328713161814446081?s=19

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 17/11/2020 18:11

I don't believe Trump's recent appointees to the SCOTUS have the moral fibre to recuse themselves. They are as corrupt as he is.

ListeningQuietly · 17/11/2020 18:39

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom

I don't believe Trump's recent appointees to the SCOTUS have the moral fibre to recuse themselves. They are as corrupt as he is.
I was talking to a former GOP member about Barrett. They disagree with her FUNDAMENTLLY on abortion but believe she will be a really good judge on many other issues.

Kavanagh is a twerp
but Barrett and Gorsuch both know that dumb rulings at the start of their terms will result in the SCOTUS being expanded or time limited
and their names will be attached to it

I can see them being very conservative on anything to do with elections and overruling states
unless Roberts gives the lead

Guiliani and Trump will hate it
but the country will thank them

DGRossetti · 17/11/2020 18:57

Most judges want to gain immortality by being considered wise jurists, not the puppets of despots.

tobee · 17/11/2020 18:57

@AcrossthePond55 glad you are getting the mouth guard! I was unaware of my jaw clenching/grinding and have, in the last year, a perfectly healthy molar tooth split in half due to this. Then, a couple of months later, the one on the other side crack and it had to be root canal filled and capped. Side effect of the turbulent times we live in?

Sorry for digression!

DGRossetti · 17/11/2020 18:59

Enter Rudi Giuliani

Only yesterday I saw a snippy article that said you'll know Trump has lost when he appoints Rudy "four seasons" Giuliani.

EveryoneRevealsThemselves · 17/11/2020 19:12

Once again, he’s Having to appoint crazy Rudy because no one else will work for him.

DuncinToffee · 17/11/2020 19:27

You can follow Rudi's efforts on this live twitter thread
twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1328772267493515266?s=19

We need Borat

Anon778833 · 17/11/2020 19:41

Apparently he's now looking into possible ways that he could pardon himself before leaving office.

EveryoneRevealsThemselves · 17/11/2020 19:47

Lol according to Jamie Dupree:
Lawyer for the PA Secretary of State starts by noting that Giuliani argued about a lot of items which were not in the Trump Campaign complaint.

PerkingFaintly · 17/11/2020 19:57

Perhaps Rudi or Jenna could simultaneously oblige the nation and indulge their normal behaviour, by giving the orange one Very Bad Legal Advice about pardons?Grin

"Look look! I just found this old statute that says if you turn around three times while wiping hamburger grease down your tie and intoning, 'I pardon myself for all eternity,' you can never be prosecuted for anything ever. What's that? Oh don't worry: we'll do the counting to three for you..."

ListeningQuietly · 17/11/2020 20:19

Apparently he's now looking into possible ways that he could pardon himself before leaving office.
Which will not in any way save him from the NY DA going for state crimes

PerkingFaintly · 17/11/2020 20:29

Shhh! Don't mention the NY DA... Grin

BruceAndNosh · 17/11/2020 20:30

What happened in the last 19 years since 9/11 to turn Rudy from Hero of New York to Laughing Stock?

Anon778833 · 17/11/2020 20:30

Apparently, 25% of American voters are evangelical Christians and Trump tapped into their support by rounding up prominent pastors and telling them he felt that 'Christianity is under attack'. These pastors were happy to have a bigot who would support their objections to, for example transgender people in the army.

Explains part of his voting base...

tobee · 17/11/2020 20:42

@ListeningQuietly

Apparently he's now looking into possible ways that he could pardon himself before leaving office. Which will not in any way save him from the NY DA going for state crimes

Thought there was a rumour he might resign, Ken doll Pence steps in as president, pardons Trump, Trump comes back til January? Sort of Putin-Medvedev style switcheroo!