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Donald has barricaded himself in the WH and we have Georgia on our minds. (Trump thread #113)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/11/2020 09:31

Will Donald pardon the turkeys or will the turkeys pardon Donald?

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4072846-He-can-thcream-and-thcream-until-he-s-sick-but-the-US-has-taken-its-future-back-Trump-thread-112?watched=1&msgid=101645744#101645744

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Anon778833 · 16/11/2020 15:15

Oh and a friend living in San Francisco told me the press is even more propaganda riddled than anywhere she's been to in Europe. That certainly wouldn't help.

SenecaFallsRedux · 16/11/2020 15:18

One reason that lots of Americans don't own passports is that the country is vast and for many people, if they want to experience a different climate and culture, they can do it within the US. I can travel 4500 miles from home and still be in the US.

It's also very tiresome to criticize Americans for being insular and culturally incurious when so many overseas travelers come to my historically and culturally rich and diverse state just to visit the home of a giant cartoon mouse.

FrankieStein402 · 16/11/2020 15:20

Yes, sweeping generalisations always dodgy, and even more so over a very large population.

  • and over a very large area!

How many brits have travelled more than 1000 miles even on holiday?

I've worked with teams who thought nothing of commuting 800-1500 miles across the US - albeit weekly. The US is twice the size of the EU - and you don't need a passport to travel anywhere.

As for insular media - media that covers the whole of the EU doesn't exist - let alone an area twice the space.
As for crap media I give you the top 3 UK newspapers - Metro, Sun, Daily Mail - and websites - these are global media rankings:
www.techworm.net/2018/12/best-most-popular-news-websites-world.html
feel free to weep.

ListeningQuietly · 16/11/2020 15:23

It's also very tiresome to criticize Americans for being insular and culturally incurious when so many overseas travelers come to my historically and culturally rich and diverse state just to visit the home of a giant cartoon mouse.
Hear hear
I despair of people saying they are going to the USA for a holiday
and it turns out they are just going to Disney.

Its funny though that Brits going to Eurodisney do not describe themselves as going to France ....
definite double standards all round Grin

DGRossetti · 16/11/2020 15:24

The US is a country that has the first amendment and had McCarthyism.

'nuff said, really.

(Even in his wettest dreams, I can't see King Nigel creating a committee for unEnglish activities such as drinking cold beer)

It's a land of contradictions. Literally, if you remember Ollie North.

ListeningQuietly · 16/11/2020 15:26

Frankie
Odd that there is nothing Chinese or Indian on that list ....

Anon778833 · 16/11/2020 15:41

@FrankieStein402

The person who made the comment about media is American. Her point was (I think) that although rubbish news exists everywhere, in America there isn't anything that doesn't try to keep people in their boxes.

BruceAndNosh · 16/11/2020 16:16

I like this suggestion for a new Twitter warning

Donald has barricaded himself in the WH and we have Georgia on our minds. (Trump thread #113)
HoldingTight · 16/11/2020 16:26

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HoldingTight · 16/11/2020 16:27

Whoops, wrong thread 🙄

TheNorthWestPawsage · 16/11/2020 16:32

For the MNetter’s who stayed up all night Smile

The The Oral History of CNN's Election Week.
It took office naps, rousing renditions of Motownphilly, and a whole lot of coffee.
www.esquire.com/news-politics/a34673198/oral-history-cnn-presidential-election-night-week-2020/

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Roussette · 16/11/2020 16:32

Oh no, have we now gone the way of generalisations about the US? And I was enjoying these threads so much
I agree.
Let's not generalise, I know and have met many wonderful Americans and a couple of godawful ones, much like the English or Spanish people I know!
And let's not cast the first stone, as a PP has said, we're in a mess with this Government and those at the top so we can hardly feel superior.

Oliver North/Reagan/Iran sparked my interest in US politics, I remember that trial being televised and watching it all those years ago

Anon778833 · 16/11/2020 16:34

You know how Trump used to go around saying he had a genius IQ? Is that also a load of narcissistic nonsense? 😂 I'm thinking it must have been .....

DGRossetti · 16/11/2020 16:35

Just had a message from my DB who lives in Tennessee ...

I took an Uber last night and the driver said they wouldn't take the vaccine because "revelations 13:1 my DNA will get changed and I'll not go to heaven, it's the mark of the beast"

DGRossetti · 16/11/2020 16:36

Oliver North/Reagan/Iran sparked my interest in US politics, I remember that trial being televised and watching it all those years ago

Loads of guys going to their barbers:

Gimme an Ollie

Roussette · 16/11/2020 16:36

That's a cracker, DGRosetti. Love it!
Less in the queue is the way I look at it. But I appreciate they need a certain % of the population to go with it for it to be effective or something

Anon778833 · 16/11/2020 16:38

And let's not cast the first stone, as a PP has said, we're in a mess with this Government and those at the top so we can hardly feel superior.

There's no superiority in the thread as far as I can see - just comments about how different America is (more conservative). Their life values tend to be different. I think we can agree that even the Democrats are not left wing (almost fell off my chair the other day when someone on one of these threads compared Biden with Jeremy Corbyn).

Anon778833 · 16/11/2020 16:39

I took an Uber last night and the driver said they wouldn't take the vaccine because "revelations 13:1 my DNA will get changed and I'll not go to heaven, it's the mark of the beast"

Oh yeah, I've heard this nonsense too 🙄

Anon778833 · 16/11/2020 16:41

Sorry for multiple posts but every year there's some crazy theory. One year it was that Obama was turning Walmart's into concentration camps where Christians were going to be beheaded. Funnily enough that didn't happen Hmm

OVienna · 16/11/2020 16:41

@SugarbabyMilly

And let's not cast the first stone, as a PP has said, we're in a mess with this Government and those at the top so we can hardly feel superior.

There's no superiority in the thread as far as I can see - just comments about how different America is (more conservative). Their life values tend to be different. I think we can agree that even the Democrats are not left wing (almost fell off my chair the other day when someone on one of these threads compared Biden with Jeremy Corbyn).

That is a favourite quote of the Trump supporting Brits - Biden is 'just like Corbyn.' No.
Blueberries0112 · 16/11/2020 16:42

@SugarbabyMilly

I took an Uber last night and the driver said they wouldn't take the vaccine because "revelations 13:1 my DNA will get changed and I'll not go to heaven, it's the mark of the beast"

Oh yeah, I've heard this nonsense too 🙄

If there is a God, then God can not be this stupid. "Oh he believes in me but his DNA changed so I can't accept his soul"
DGRossetti · 16/11/2020 16:44

The problem is DBs Uber driver probably had a gun.

Mind you, he may have been a member of that select Facebook group Men posting pictures of loaded guns pointed at their crotches (although hopefully not while driving).

knowyourmeme.com/memes/gun-owners-pointing-guns-at-their-crotches

("Fortean Times" also covered it).

Any men lurking might want to not research that too much ...

Blueberries0112 · 16/11/2020 16:47

People really lack faith that God have common sense and knows the difference between science and someone who doesn't believe in him

DGRossetti · 16/11/2020 16:48

I think we can agree that even the Democrats are not left wing (almost fell off my chair the other day when someone on one of these threads compared Biden with Jeremy Corbyn).

I never understood why some many people in the UK somehow think that Republican=Tory and Democrat=Labour

(Well I do understand. It's total ignorance, coupled with a total disinclination to learn).

The UK is a Monachy FFS. It could not be further removed from the groundswell of US politics if it tried. The only points of similarity are that the rich shit on the poor (which is universal).

boatyardblues · 16/11/2020 17:34

We haven’t travelled extensively in the US, but we’ve been to New England and California, driving up into the Sierra Nevadas from San Francisco. I like planning our itineraries and staying a little off the beaten track. We definitely encountered some quite deprived areas on our travels in more rural or mountain areas, sometimes not far from popular tourist areas. One of our B&B owners was horrified that we’d been to the local launderette to do our laundry half way through our break. It was a small town adjacent to a ski resort in the mountains but out of season. I liked it. Most of the customers were chatting in Spanish, but I was learning Spanish at the time and enjoyed the listening practice. Same with chatting with locals in the bar near our B&B. We used buses to get around SF and Boston or walked significant distances and probably saw more local colour than if we’d stayed downtown. I’m not sure what I’m really trying to say here, but if you get out of Oxford, London, Bath, Cotswolds, Edinburgh or any of the other big tourist hotspots in the UK you’d see a different side to the UK too. We found the vast majority of the Americans we encountered on our travels open, friendly and helpful. The most obvious difference for us (as polite atheists) was how much more openly religious people are than here.