Donald has barricaded himself in the WH and we have Georgia on our minds. (Trump thread #113)

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Will Donald pardon the turkeys or will the turkeys pardon Donald?

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Every time I see the name of Trump's new favourite TV channel OANN, I misread it as ONAN. Those who know their Bible might find this as funny as I do.

My holidays (which I normally take in November and January) have been largely dominated by US politics on CNN since 2016.
I was so pleased to be sitting right in front of the telly in my hotel room when they called this election for Biden. (I sobbed with relief.)
I don’t even watch TV at home nowadays (just selected stuff on iPlayer and I had access to my neighbour’s Netflix for a while, but it cost me too much so I stopped.)

From the NY times, Trump administration still shoehorning things in before January 20. This one will be hard to reverse
In a last-minute push to achieve its long-sought goal of allowing oil and gas drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska, the Trump administration on Monday announced that it would begin the formal process of selling leases to oil companies.
That sets up a potential sale of leases just before Jan 20, Inauguration Day, leaving the new administration of Joseph R. Biden Jr., who has opposed drilling in the refuge, to try to stop the them after the fact.
“The Trump administration is trying a ‘Hail Mary’ pass,” said Jenny Rowland-Shea, a senior policy analyst at the Center for American Progress, a liberal group in Washington. “They know that what they’ve put out there is rushed and legally dubious.”
The Federal Register on Monday posted a “call for nominations” from the Bureau of Land Management, to be officially published Tuesday, relating to lease sales in about 1.5 million acres of the refuge along the coast of the Arctic Ocean. A call for nominations is essentially a request to oil companies to specify which tracts of land they would be interested in exploring and potentially drilling for oil and gas.

@SugarbabyMilly

You know how Trump used to go around saying he had a genius IQ? Is that also a load of narcissistic nonsense? 😂 I'm thinking it must have been .....

I think only his more intellectually challenged supporters believe that. He's cunning as a fox, mark you, when it comes to looking after number one. But that's self-preservation instinct, not genius.

@BruceAndNosh

Every time I see the name of Trump's new favourite TV channel OANN, I misread it as ONAN. Those who know their Bible might find this as funny as I do.

You are not the only one...

We go to Disney but also have been to NY, LA, Boston, the Keys etc
I do think people are a bit sneery about Disney.

Interesting opinion piece from two opposing parties in Bush v Gore

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/boies-olson-lawyers-bush-gore-2000-joe-biden-president/2020/11/14/1e113520-25ff-11eb-8672-c281c7a2c96e_story.html#click=t.co/JnDDbGlALe" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/boies-olson-lawyers-bush-gore-2000-joe-biden-president/2020/11/14/1e113520-25ff-11eb-8672-c281c7a2c96e_story.html#click=t.co/JnDDbGlALe

We opposed each other in Bush v. Gore. Now we agree: Biden won.

^David Boies is chairman of the law firm Boies, Schiller & Flexner. Theodore B. Olson, a former U.S. solicitor general, is a partner of the law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher.
Twenty years ago, we represented the opposing sides in Bush v. Gore. We still don’t agree about how the Supreme Court ruled, but we completely agree that nothing in that case — or in the Supreme Court’s decision — supports the challenges now being thrown about in an attempt to undermine President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.^

I'm not sneery about Disney. Disney and tourism in general are one of the main reasons I don't pay state income tax. I'm sneery about the word "Florida" being just another word for Disney World. There is a lot more to us than Disney.

I'm not sneery about Disney. Disney and tourism in general are one of the main reasons I don't pay state income tax. I'm sneery about the word "Florida" being just another word for Disney World. There is a lot more to us than Disney.
THIS
I have friends who live in Palm Beach, I have family who live in the Everglades, I've had family posted in Pensacola - I'd LOVE to visit Florida, but Disney is not Florida.

Same as Highclere Castle is neither Downton nor Hampshire

@SenecaFallsRedux I think it’s just a phrase with no intent to irritate. We visited USA in Feb 2016, spoke to many lovely people concerned tourism would fall with Trump as president. Looking forward to a visit next year hopefully.

I don’t anyone is suggesting Disney is Florida ?!

You can get pretty much any climate and any scenery you want without leaving USA so I can see why people are quite happy to stay within such an enormous country.

Also, most employees get only about 2 weeks annual leave in the USA, is that right? So it doesn't leave much time for foreign travel. Whereas here you get about double that (UK) and for a long time it's been cheap and easy to pop over to Spain or Greece etc for a beach holiday.

To be honest I think a lot of UK citizens only do it because they want a hot beach, if you could get that easily in the UK I think they'd be happy to stay here. I've known people who just book a cheap holiday and don't even know or care which country they're going to. They are not exactly travelling abroad to broaden their minds!

I'm sure there are plenty of ignorant people both in the UK and the USA.

Depending on the profession. Some can have up to 6 weeks vacation. My husband can

Impossible to generalise about such a huge and diverse country, I agree and I do think we have managed to avoid doing so. But I think it is sometimes quite instructive to think about the stories and beliefs that a country has about itself and its history--that's where the cracks begin to show.

The passport statistic, which is so often used to highlight US insularity, is rather misleading I think. You could spend a lifetime travelling in the country and never cross a border but still open yourself up to cultural differences and all kinds of diversity.

I like the idea of 'long covid' though.

"The UK is a Monachy FFS. It could not be further removed from the groundswell of US politics if it tried. The only points of similarity are that the rich shit on the poor (which is universal)."

Doesn't the queen pass or veto a bill like our us president does?

Just remember, each states is like a mini country so they can can be different from each other.

Doesn't the queen pass or veto a bill like our us president does?

In theory. In practice, the last monarch that failed to give royal assent to a bill was in 1708.

@Blueberries0112

"The UK is a Monachy FFS. It could not be further removed from the groundswell of US politics if it tried. The only points of similarity are that the rich shit on the poor (which is universal)."

Doesn't the queen pass or veto a bill like our us president does?

Only as a formality. She doesn't really have any power politically

She could do it once. The next thing Parliament would do would be to remove the Royal veto.

There is this funny idea that Royalty in England has power. It hasn't really had it in the way people seem to think it does, since before the American Revolution; George III had to defer to the wishes of parliament (Commons and Lords), though he constantly did his best to try to get people he thought agreed with him into positions of power.

Biden and Harris are speaking about the pandemic now.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/gsa-official-blocking-bidens-transition-privately-plans-post/story?id=74234794

Doesn't the queen pass or veto a bill like our us president does

I have just watched The West Wing when they veto a bill.

I couldn't see the Queen doing that.

Funny enough - I could see Prince Charles thinking about it - but again, he wouldn't do it.

@Blueberries0112

Just remember, each states is like a mini country so they can can be different from each other.

So true.

I have lived in San Francisco for a while. Well, a long summer back in 1990. Loved it.

Am planning on a road trip in Big Sky country in a few years - and suspect it will be very different to San Francisco.

@SenecaFallsRedux

I'm not sneery about Disney. Disney and tourism in general are one of the main reasons I don't pay state income tax. I'm sneery about the word "Florida" being just another word for Disney World. There is a lot more to us than Disney.

When I backpacked across the USA, I went to Florida. Plan was to do Disney, Epcot etc.

But ended up in Key West and loved it.