Anyone else annoyed when someone saying 'get a job'

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Before COVID it was still hard to find a job but now it has become more difficult.

Recently, Dispatches showed a programme where there were 947 applications for a waiter role at a Manchester role and the pay was around minimum wage. And the person who got that job was later told they could not be hired due to the new lockdown restrictions.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/minimum-wage-restaurant-job-receives-947-applications/02/11/

Unemployment is likely to rise and could reach double figures in 2021. Getting a job is not as easy it was in the past where you could walk in and get hired. Now you have things such as: online applications, Skype interviews, Face to Face interviews, Online tests etc...

There are loads of seasonal opportunities locally along with longer term factory / unskilled work yet still high rates of unemployment in pockets - it must be that a lot of people want to live on benefits maybe ?

Hmmm, I am telling my partner to get a job. I know it is hard but he still needs to keep trying. Which he isn’t really. He has been off work since March. If I could see him trying to get one, I would definitely stop telling him to. But with such hard odds of getting one, my view is you need to try more, not give up.

YANBU OP. DH was made redundant from a finance role a year ago, he’s applying for everything - roles similar to what he did but also supermarkets, retail, bar work (pre second lockdown), but can’t get anything. Not that surprising, why would someone hire him for a retail job when there are so many out of work retail staff going for the same jobs. He’s 52 and reached the conclusion he will never work again, I think he’s probably right.

I know there are a minority of people who do not want to try but most are trying hard there are millions of unemployed people compared to the thousands of jobs available at the moment. Simple math shows us not everyone will get a job.

@mrsbyers

There are loads of seasonal opportunities locally along with longer term factory / unskilled work yet still high rates of unemployment in pockets - it must be that a lot of people want to live on benefits maybe ?

I hope this in tongue in cheek or just plain ignorance.

Under the threat of redundancy I have applied for over 100 jobs in the last six weeks. Seasonal roles at every supermarket within 10 miles are full, Amazon accepted my application, gave me an interview (which I passed) then gave me no indication of any shifts, Royal Mail accepted my application and I have heard nothing since. Aldi rejected me as I failed their online test and Lidl turned me down also. I haven't heard from around 75% of the jobs I applied for.

I have 20 years customer service (6 of those in management) and a degree.

Luckily, the small business I work for recognised I am a good worker and have offered me a 20 hour contract (I was full time) which I have accepted.

Yes, I will need to rely on UC/benefits for a while. No, I don't want to live on UC/benefits.

It might be hard, but that doesn't mean you stop trying.

There are lots of seasonal jobs going round here - especially in supermarkets or as delivery drivers.

Also when someone complains on here about their lazy 13 year old wanting the latest money and someone advises them to ‘get a job’ - drives me bananas! Anywhere that would employ a 13 year old should not be a place you want your child to work!

I agree OP. I also don’t think now is the time to leave your job because you fancy a change or hate your boss or whatever. At the moment, we are lucky to be employed, not that our employers are lucky to have us!

Now you have things such as: online applications, Skype interviews, Face to Face interviews, Online tests etc...

so you expect someone to offer you a job without you having to apply, attend an interview or demonstrate skills for the role?
Since when have Face to Face interviews been a new thing?

@mrsbyers

There are loads of seasonal opportunities locally along with longer term factory / unskilled work yet still high rates of unemployment in pockets - it must be that a lot of people want to live on benefits maybe ?

Here we go again...

I have mixed feelings. It is challenging but then our daughter managed to get a job with a single phone call. Not her dream job but a reasonable employer, reasonably interesting work and the salary is sufficient whilst she's living at home.
She'll start her proper job in February but this will tide her over.
As ever, those who go looking with the right expectations and attitudes succeed.

@EveryDayIsADuvetDay

Sorry meant group interviews. I did not say people should not apply. Obviously to get a job you have to apply. But just applying and getting interviews does not automatically mean you will be successful. Luck also plays a part.

Everyone needs to try no one is denying that but with a lot more people being made redundant competition is much more fierce now.

YANBU. My boss told me that over 100 people applied for my minumum wage job and this was well before Covid, it must be worse out there now.

And no one enjoys being on benefits, I was on them and it was shit.

I've been half heartedly applying for jobs for 18 months - basically, being very picky about what I'd apply for, but filling in the application properly if I was serious about applying.
When lockdown 1 started, I stopped looking, but I applied for 2 in September - and got offered both. So, there are jobs about. I realise how many people are getting made redundant, but it us also not impossible.

I am a highly skilled STEM person but I have had double digit number of applications before I got a job even with that I STILL didn't necessarily get any feedback, then even it was often of the 'you didn't get the job because you were unsuccesful'.

Why the hatred for benefit claimants? Its often the case that people stay on benefits if there are not the jobs that pay and enable actual life to happen - there's going to be a lot more people who need to claim benefits. Perhaps we could have a system focusing more in helping people back into work and employability rather than slow torture of claimants?

I think it depends where you are. I’ve had an income drop so was applying for a second job recently. There are loads where I am but it may mean doing a job you would never have imagined doing previously - so where I am every supermarket and corner shop is looking for people to cover shifts, loads of delivery and courier jobs going, care homes are desperate and can’t get their shifts covered, loads of office sickness covers and regular jobs through local recruitment agency, cover and ta work in schools, online tutoring, nannying and other childcare jobs, all sorts of cleaning work (hospitals, schools, council buildings), other council temp jobs, post office etc. I know a lot of people who needed to look for work since March and have had real worry but all of them got jobs within 6 weeks. So I’ve had a different experience from you but appreciate it may not be like this everywhere in the U.K. and someone with poor or no academic achievement and little work experience will have more of a struggle regardless. It is unfair though to get annoyed at people that suggest getting a job to someone who is struggling and not looking.

I agree totally OP. It's such a hard time to find employment. Anyone searching for work needs so much support and kindness. It's soul destroying to be criticised when you're trying your best, and desperately want to work and contribute...

I decided to go back to work after ten years in March when dh was furloughed. Decided on the Monday morning had a job by 2.30. But I am nhs admin trained and they were very very short. Best thing I ever did. Am now working weekends, nights and loads of shifts on all the maternity wards

@mrsbyers, the problem is that when your job ends again and your benefits are recalculated, you could end up with not enough to live on. Families with three children are at particular risk. Housing benefit is a nightmare if you start and stop a claim. Universal credit was supposed to allow for work, but really it was about giving less.

Employers are spoilt for choice. The laughable thing is when they say they want experience when nonody is willing to train or give you a first experience to begin with.

Hell jobs like care work and ones in highly abusive 'sales' roles are often advertised. Many employers would higher a younger person to pay lower NMW. Having a job is a solution to many problems so i get why it's important i just wish more people had empathy for others who cant seem to land one. Job from 16 etc they dont exist anymore here.

And yet we have farmers closing fields full of produce that's going to waste because theres no one to pick it now "all those Europeans coming over here to steal our jobs" cant travel. Maybe it's just the good jobs that get loads of applicants?
But I'd hire someone who said "I've even picking broccoli for the past two years because I didn't get any other jobs I applied for" over someone who said "I've been on benefits for the past two years because I couldn't get a job". If you're out of work, you're less employable than someone that's in work, no matter what that work may be.

Nobody, hire,...oh i give up. Mush brain after a draining work meeting.

i'm a retail manager and currently recruiting

retail experience is vital ....especially in this climate. Don't care if candidates have degrees in rocket science.....you would need a few years in recent retail under your belt

retail is no longer the 'shit' job it used to be seen as

Last thing, im in london abd never saw picking or factory jobs.
Tough employers like lidl and sports direct hire eastern europeans .. seasonal retail jobs want experienced people. If you have no or no recent experience you are frankly fucked.